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Title: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Maedhros on August 25, 2011, 04:27:08 AM
http://www.facebook.com/konami.jp?sk=app_142433369174668 (http://www.facebook.com/konami.jp?sk=app_142433369174668)

The page lists the following games:

    Frontier Gate (PSP, Playable)
    Terror of the Stratus (PSP, Playable)
    Beyond the Labyrinth (3DS, Playable)
    NeverDead (PS3/360, Playable)
    New Love PLus (3DS, Playable)
    Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker HD Ediiotn (PS3/360, Playable)
    Metal Gear Solid 3D Edition (PS3/360, Playable)
    Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater 3D (3DS, Playable)
    Winning Eleven 2012 (PS3, Playable)
    Pop'n Music Portable 2 (PSP, Playable)
    Silent Hill Downpour (PS3, Playable)
    Blades of Time (PS3/360, Playable)
    Ao no Eiyuu Birds of Steel (PS3/360, Playable)
    MLB Bobble Head (PS3, Playable)

Partner titles -- that is, games from other companies that will be housed in Konami's booth -- include:

    Uta Princess-sama Music (PSP, Trailer)
    Uta Princess-sama Debut (PSP, Trailer)
    Legend of Heroes Ao no Kiseki (PSP, Playable)
    Code_18 (PS3/360, Trailer)
    War Hammer 40000 Space Marine (PS3/360, Playable)
    The Detective Club (PSP, Playable)
    Bullet Butlers (PSP, Playable)
    Ryu-koku (PSP, Trailer)
    Hana to Otome ni Shukufuku wo (PSP, Trailer)
    Shirogane no Karu to Soukuu no Jouou (PSP, Trailer)
    Shirokinushou Renai Shoukougun (PSP, Trailer)
    Tsugi no Giseisha wo Oshiraseshimasu Daiikkan (PSP, Trailer)

In the show's family corner are:

    Tongari Boushi to Oshare na Mahouzukai (DS, Playable)
    Penguin no Mondai The Wars (3DS, Playable)

Listed under "other" at the site are:

    AR Combat Digi Q (PS Vita)
    Asphalet Injection (PS Vita)
    Mahjong Fight Club (PS Vita)
    New Little King's Story (PS Vita)
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WOOT, NO CASTLEVANIA!!!
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Koutei on August 25, 2011, 04:33:06 AM
I think that "Castlevania 25th anniversary project" is not video game.

Or, there is no "Castlevania 25th anniversary project".
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: narkolepsi on August 25, 2011, 04:38:42 AM
Big surprise here, huh? I guess deep down, we were all expecting this.

...Well, I'm at least excited for Pop'n Music Portable 2...
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on August 25, 2011, 05:45:16 AM
Maybe Konami is hiding something. They have a surprise for the Castlevania fans.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: crisis on August 25, 2011, 06:33:11 AM
Oh they have a surprise for us alright.
And I have a surprise for them.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Dark Nemesis on August 25, 2011, 07:30:19 AM
Oh they have a surprise for us alright.
And I have a surprise for them.

Lol!!!  ;D

Remember when Konami told us to forget what we knew about Castlevania?

Well, this year they are going to tell us on TGS, to forget once and for all Castlevania......from now on it's only Kojima and MGS!!! Hooray!!!
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Harrycombs on August 25, 2011, 07:32:35 AM
Maybe they'll announce a new game at the show.

Hopefully MGS3 3D will look better at TGS than it has in recent screen shots, also looking forward to seeing Beyond the Labyrinth. Konami better have some interesting stuff to show after this horribly slow year.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Nagumo on August 25, 2011, 08:02:36 AM
Konami sure likes to troll. First the epic troll known as David Cox and the MS bandwagon, followed by Hodespair, then Hodespair for PS3, and now this.

I think I'm in love.     
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Kingshango on August 25, 2011, 08:51:18 AM
Am I the only one who honestly thinks that Konami has nothing planned for the 25 anniversary of Castlevania? If they did they would have announced it many months ago instead of waiting till July to talk about it. And even if they do have something planned it will be either a rom dump for the Vita/3DS or another compilation album.

Might as well just cut our losses and hope for something at next years E3.
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Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: KaZudra on August 25, 2011, 08:57:25 AM
Am I the only one who honestly thinks that Konami has nothing planned for the 25 anniversary of Castlevania? If they did they would have announced it many months ago instead of waiting till July to talk about it. And even if they do have something planned it will be either a rom dump for the Vita/3DS or another compilation album.

Might as well just cut our losses and hope for something at next years E3.
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wishful thinking for a game, but the only thing konami's done for the anniversary is the 2 Great Tribute albums.
Maybe yes, maybe no, but most likely the Cds are your best bet.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Nagumo on August 25, 2011, 09:18:04 AM
Who at Konami said we would get anything for the Anniversary anyway? I could have been every average joe working there. I should have known better then to listen to "off the record" statements.   
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Chernabogue on August 25, 2011, 10:17:57 AM
The CD's may be the 25th Anniversary gift, but WHY releasing them on January when the date is late September?

C'mon, Konami, you're hiding something. You just can't let us down (again).
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: crisis on August 25, 2011, 10:50:19 AM
Jessie Spano Caffeine Pill Freakout! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bflYjF90t7c#)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Sindra on August 25, 2011, 12:41:21 PM
C'mon, Konami, you're hiding something. You just can't let us down (again).

I'm pretty sure they've proven they have no problem with letting us down several times. I'm not trying to be resentful (though I am), but it's just based on their recent track record.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Chernabogue on August 25, 2011, 01:02:01 PM
I'm pretty sure they've proven they have no problem with letting us down several times. I'm not trying to be resentful (though I am), but it's just based on their recent track record.
Yeah. Plus the TGS is our very last chance to get something for the Anniversary. After it'll be too late.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Dremn on August 25, 2011, 01:08:46 PM
I'm giving up hope.

Rest in peace Castlevania.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Deko21 on August 25, 2011, 01:18:46 PM
Tis is sad day for us. :(
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Kingshango on August 25, 2011, 01:50:53 PM
I'm giving up hope.

Rest in peace Castlevania.

Super Castlevania IV OST: Game Over (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I--FwL4zKj4#)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Mike Belmont on August 25, 2011, 02:21:14 PM
Is kind of sad  :'( (and wrath, maybe >:( ), but some other games will have an anniversary project or game. Tell me if is not true, but Zelda is planning something, isn´t? Halo has something to celebrate it anniversary, I guess. Even Mario have an anniversary tittle and pack in the past...

... All that I have as a little (very little) shine of light, are the words of Konami (vice president? I can´t remember) in the pre conference in past E3, when he mentioned that this year is the Castlevania anniversary.

I hope is not to late...
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: KaZudra on August 25, 2011, 02:29:44 PM
Yeah. Plus the TGS is our very last chance to get something for the Anniversary. After it'll be too late.

Not Really, PSO2 is a PSO 10th anniversary project that will be out next year.
they could be working on someting now, but it'll have to wait til next year most likely.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: shelverton. on August 25, 2011, 03:16:59 PM
Castlevania: Terror of the Stratus :D

(could've been)

Blah. I want a game.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: danceofgold on August 25, 2011, 04:04:30 PM
This is very sad...
Not a very bright move on Konami's part too, since they would be missing out on the opportunity to cash in on the 25th anniversary.
 
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Kingshango on August 25, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
You know whats even sadder, we all know for a fact that Konami is gonna go balls out next year with the 25 anniversary of Metal Gear.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Sumac on August 25, 2011, 05:06:07 PM
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I'm giving up hope.
Rest in peace Castlevania.
So, they don't release anniversary project and you consider series dead?
There is no logic, nor meaning in this.

It's sad that Konami probably will not create anything to celebrate that great date, but by any means it doesn't mean cancelation or otherwise end of the franchise.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Dark Nemesis on August 25, 2011, 05:31:26 PM
So, they don't release anniversary project and you consider series dead?
There is no logic, nor meaning in this.

It's sad that Konami probably will not create anything to celebrate that great date, but by any means it doesn't mean cancelation or otherwise end of the franchise.

Well, except from Harmony of Disgrace for the PS3 and the sequel of Lords of The Shadows in the near future, there is no other Castlevania game. So, as far as now, for me the series are dead!!!
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Dremn on August 25, 2011, 05:58:49 PM
So, they don't release anniversary project and you consider series dead?
There is no logic, nor meaning in this.

No, I consider it dead because Lords of Shadow was a giant let down and the only thing we got this year was DLC and Harmony of Despair, all of the above were incredibly underwhelming.

Dead was an exaggeration on my part, but it's close enough to the truth whether you want to admit it or not. Metal Gear is Konami's #1 and only priority.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Kingshango on August 25, 2011, 06:23:19 PM
No, I consider it dead because Lords of Shadow was a giant let down and the only thing we got this year was DLC and Harmony of Despair, all of the above were incredibly underwhelming.

Dead was an exaggeration on my part, but it's close enough to the truth whether you want to admit it or not. Metal Gear and Pro Evolution Soccer are Konami's top priority.

Fixed for accuracy, If Konami wanted to they could flat out STOP making Castlevania games altogether and strive on Metal Gear and PES alone(and to a lesser extent Yugioh.)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: C Belmont on August 25, 2011, 06:35:32 PM
Considering how much Mercury steam believes there game is a tribute to the classic Castlevania's Konami probably thinks we don't need anything to celebrate the anniversary because we got LOS already :P

It sure is a fun time to be into Castlevania isn't it?
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Dominus on August 25, 2011, 06:47:39 PM
I dont understand why people are so surprised of this. I remember reading that IGA didnt knew of CV 20 anniversary when he was doing PoR (Though he did made up for that next year with DXC Chronicles)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on August 25, 2011, 07:20:59 PM
The only thing I have to say to Konami is, dude, stop being a dick! ;D

Stop being a dick Scott! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_mzsr6WygA#ws)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Odile Kuronuma on August 25, 2011, 07:25:44 PM
I dont understand why people are so surprised of this.
I'm not. Seriously I'd rather see Konami not celebrating this anniversary , if all they're going to give us is some lame game like HoD or a soundtrack.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: narkolepsi on August 25, 2011, 08:02:29 PM
And now for a cartoon reference of my own: here we are, sitting on the sidelines expecting something totally epic, Konami does announce something ridiculously epic, and when we pop it into our systems we'll find...a Castlevania walk cycle.

I would not be surprised.

 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OdoJA1kQDs)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Kale on August 25, 2011, 09:22:39 PM
Is taht the original metal gear solid for 360/ps3?

That'd be pretty sweet. It was my favorite after all. I hope they don't release it as some half assed port. I would normally expect them to but it's metal gear... so theres a little hope this time.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: KaZudra on August 25, 2011, 10:38:25 PM
I just love all the hate Harmony of Despair has when the "Haters" probably Clocked at least 50 hours in total gameplay

Whaaa whaa its a disgrace, whaa whaa there was no story, IT WAS FUN DAMMIT, STFU!
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Deko21 on August 25, 2011, 11:12:57 PM
I just love all the hate Harmony of Despair has when the "Haters" probably Clocked at least 50 hours in total gameplay

Whaaa whaa its a disgrace, whaa whaa there was no story, IT WAS FUN DAMMIT, STFU!
lol, for some reason, i was thinking the same thing when i was reading all the hate HD's been getting.

Though right now, i wouldn't mind getting that game right now, but a different game would be nice. Then again, i'm one of the few people in this forum who hasn't played HD at all so it'll kinda be a treat for me (i lack a 360).

An anniversary game would be nice, but if all we're getting is HD for PS3, then its best to savor what we get, though the only people that will actually enjoy it are the ones that haven't played it at all, like me for example.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: KaZudra on August 25, 2011, 11:20:15 PM
lol, for some reason, i was thinking the same thing when i was reading all the hate HD's been getting.

Though right now, i wouldn't mind getting that game right now, but a different game would be nice. Then again, i'm one of the few people in this forum who hasn't played HD at all so it'll kinda be a treat for me (i lack a 360).

An anniversary game would be nice, but if all we're getting is HD for PS3, then its best to savor what we get, though the only people that will actually enjoy it are the ones that haven't played it at all, like me for example.

I just hope Konami rebalances the characters in the PSN version Since Jonathan pretty much becomes useless when richter was released because he was so hard to lvl and didn't have much to make up for it.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Deko21 on August 25, 2011, 11:33:04 PM
I just hope Konami rebalances the characters in the PSN version Since Jonathan pretty much becomes useless when richter was released because he was so hard to lvl and didn't have much to make up for it.
It'd be much better if they just have him use other weapons aside from the vampire killer, that'd probably make him more unique compared to the other whip users. Sure he'd probably be similar to soma in a way, but only in terms of equipment. Plus it'd be nice to use the whips unique to jonathan, and in a way they can still have his VK power up through leveling up sub weapons (since that's how you power it up in this game)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Maedhros on August 26, 2011, 12:18:39 AM
I just love all the hate Harmony of Despair has when the "Haters" probably Clocked at least 50 hours in total gameplay

Whaaa whaa its a disgrace, whaa whaa there was no story, IT WAS FUN DAMMIT, STFU!
0 hours master race reporting in. Will not... wait... never buy it.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: KaZudra on August 26, 2011, 12:26:54 AM
0 hours master race reporting in. Will not... wait... never buy it.

Never knock something til you try it.
Master Race? sounds like compensation.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: JR on August 26, 2011, 12:31:50 AM
I dont understand why people are so surprised of this. I remember reading that IGA didnt knew of CV 20 anniversary when he was doing PoR (Though he did made up for that next year with DXC Chronicles)

Konami's PoR pre-order bonus was for the 20th anniversary. So I'm surprised they wouldn't do something similar for the 25th (unless you count the Japan-only tribute albums, I guess).

I just love all the hate Harmony of Despair has when the "Haters" probably Clocked at least 50 hours in total gameplay

Whaaa whaa its a disgrace, whaa whaa there was no story, IT WAS FUN DAMMIT, STFU!

I liked it, but I'd never say it was without substantial flaws, or that it meets the overall quality of the rest of the series. Similar thing for me with Judgment: I had fun with it for a while, but I'd much rather have had something of better quality, something closer to what the series has been known for.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Sumac on August 26, 2011, 12:44:52 AM
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No, I consider it dead because Lords of Shadow was a giant let down and the only thing we got this year was DLC and Harmony of Despair, all of the above were incredibly underwhelming.

Dead was an exaggeration on my part, but it's close enough to the truth whether you want to admit it or not. Metal Gear is Konami's #1 and only priority.
Wrong.
If another series is priority to the gaming company it doesn't automatically mean that all other series will be put to the rest.

And as matter of fact, as long as there are new games in the series that bears Castlevania name (no matter who created them and how good they are) series is not dead. Like it or not.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: K.G. Morder on August 26, 2011, 07:38:49 AM
Considering how much Mercury steam believes there game is a tribute to the classic Castlevania's
Since when? from day one it was "Forget what you knew about castlevania". From the start Cox was trying to make his own CV vision, not a tribute.

Master Race? sounds like compensation.
Lurk moar.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: C Belmont on August 26, 2011, 07:56:59 AM
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Since when? from day one it was "Forget what you knew about castlevania". From the start Cox was trying to make his own CV vision, not a tribute

I'm pretty sure at one stage they claimed LOS was a love letter to classic castlevania games, plus there is all the wonderfull homages they threw in like you know the hero being a Belmont (when he's actually not) & the whip (which they just destroy anyway).
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Nagumo on August 26, 2011, 08:06:04 AM
Yes, Cox said as much, during one of this many troll interviews.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: crisis on August 26, 2011, 08:11:51 AM
COX said [MercurySteam] wanted to pay homage to the classic games, but they didn't want to be a slave to them. Which is why they chose to copy Shadow of the Collosus instead(?)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: uzo on August 26, 2011, 08:21:07 AM
Cox says a lot of things. Many not true.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Nagumo on August 26, 2011, 08:22:31 AM
COX said [MercurySteam] wanted to pay homage to the classic games, but they didn't want to be a slave to them. Which is why they chose to copy Shadow of the Collosus instead(?)


Wasn't he talking about the story? But yeah, we want to make to pay homage to old castlevania games but don't want to be enslaved to them

so we made it totally different lol     
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Sindra on August 26, 2011, 09:38:29 AM
So different it's pretty much unrecognizable as a Castlevania game except "Ooo, vampires!"


Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Could there be any chance that Konami will add more to that line-up list, or do you think this is all they'll be presenting? I know surprises can happen, but it looks unlikely. Usually they'd want to tease the hell out of something like that.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: narkolepsi on August 26, 2011, 10:10:25 AM
So different it's pretty much unrecognizable as a Castlevania game except "Ooo, vampires!"

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Could there be any chance that Konami will add more to that line-up list, or do you think this is all they'll be presenting? I know surprises can happen, but it looks unlikely. Usually they'd want to tease the hell out of something like that.

And vamps alone do not a CV game make... there's the atmosphere, gameplay, etc. which was completely foregone in favor of catering to the masses.

I too would wager that we're not going to see much of anything, unless they're keeping something under wraps, but I really, really doubt that. And like someone said earlier, yeah, they are definitely going to put effort into the 25th anniversary of MGS, so it wouldn't surprise me if they ignored CV entirely.

Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Sindra on August 26, 2011, 10:42:20 AM
So that would mean that they pretty much lied about having a 25th Anniversary tribute to Castlevania, based on them saying a month ago that they were going to have something.

You think they're stupid enough to blatantly lie outright?
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Kingshango on August 26, 2011, 10:50:48 AM
SURVEY SAYS


Yes.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: narkolepsi on August 26, 2011, 10:59:22 AM
SURVEY SAYS


Yes.

Number-one answer.

*clapping from audience*
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: uzo on August 26, 2011, 11:10:06 AM
You think they're stupid enough to blatantly lie outright?

A few factors are at play here.

1) The credibility of Jorge Bocanegra; (Rely On Horror's Castlevania columnist who wrote the article)
Do we take this report at face value? It is the only report of it's kind thus far. No sources named, nothing verifiable. Does he have a history of making things up at all?

2) David Cox, perhaps unintentionally, backs this story up;
He said "I'm not working on the anniversary project". He did NOT say that he doesn't know, no comment, or that it does not exist. Then again, Cox isn't always truthful. Grain of salt here.

3) Konami outright denies to comment on it officially;
If it exists, then this was an unintentional leak of information. This could explain Konami's unwillingness to comment, and why thus far has been silent on announcing it.

4) The credibility of the unnamed source who mentioned it;
It wouldn't be the first time a representative of a game company has lied, or jumped the gun. He is unnamed, and therefor unverifiable. See also point #1.

It really could go either way. It mostly hinges on point #1 to be honest, since Cox is unreliable in all senses.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Profbeanburrito on August 26, 2011, 11:15:54 AM
I think were all jumping the gun saying there absolutey nothing in the works with there still being a possibility of a TGS announcement. I'm a little skeptical about as most of us are but when I hear people say it absolutely won't happen I'm alittle surprised people aren't holding out a little bit longer.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Nagumo on August 26, 2011, 11:21:24 AM
What do they mean with "line-up", exactly? Does it refer to all the games from that are shown during TGS? Does that also include new announcements? Because if annoucements are not part of the line-up then I'll guess we could hope for something after all.

n-not that I want to give you guys false hope or anything but you never know
     
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Sumac on August 26, 2011, 11:35:37 AM
What do they mean with "line-up", exactly? Does it refer to all the games from that are shown during TGS? Does that also include new announcements? Because if annoucements are not part of the line-up then I'll guess we could hope for something after all.

n-not that I want to give you guys false hope or anything but you never know
     
Finally someone with the common sense.
It's possible that they will announce something, but it will not be shown. If all this small information slips about CV Anniversary project are true, it's the most likely outcome. If they not announce anything, well, then it will be really late anniversary or there will not be any special project at all.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Nagumo on August 26, 2011, 12:07:46 PM
Wow, we agree on something. Awesome.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: KaZudra on August 26, 2011, 02:09:29 PM
*sigh*
BLEH BLEH COX IS A TROLL!!!

People have a tendacy to forget that there were 5 SoTN clones, and the last game IGA done accually advanced the engine just a tad...

I don't Care about Cox, you fucking forget that its mostly Kojima's doing since the Producers have more dictation than the Director, Remember that!

Please Learn a little about business production before bashing the director, a lil 101 on film would fill you in on the important stuff.

If Cox did it the way Cox wanted to, We'll have a 3D Simon's Quest.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: uzo on August 26, 2011, 03:00:36 PM
Producers have more dictation than the Director, Remember that!

No. Producers are the "this is our schedule" and "this is our budget" people.

Please Learn a little about business production before bashing the director, a lil 101 on film would fill you in on the important stuff.

Games are not films. I think you are the one that needs to do the learning before trying to correct people.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: crisis on August 26, 2011, 04:06:40 PM
I realized that if you stop trying to categorize LoS as a true, traditional Castlevania title and view it as "Castlevania:The Movie:The Game," it becomes a lot more easier to enjoy :D

and lets face it, Hollywood probably would've done a much worse job at adapting Castlevania than MercurySteam (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/c0mbat/laugh.gif)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Odile Kuronuma on August 26, 2011, 04:42:12 PM
So that would mean that they pretty much lied about having a 25th Anniversary tribute to Castlevania, based on them saying a month ago that they were going to have something.

You think they're stupid enough to blatantly lie outright?
It was off the record. They didn't make an official announcement, so it's not like they lied.
I just love all the hate Harmony of Despair has when the "Haters" probably Clocked at least 50 hours in total gameplay

Whaaa whaa its a disgrace, whaa whaa there was no story, IT WAS FUN DAMMIT, STFU!
You liked it? Good for you.Personally I don't see the point in playing it. I don't have friends interested in playing it . Add to that it's a complete rehash of the previous titles.I might just as well play all of the metroidvanias.Plus I'm not even sure if I'm able to get it.And yes I haven't played it and prolly never will.
 I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna miss much if I don't play it.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Munchy on August 26, 2011, 05:25:50 PM
I realized that if you stop trying to categorize LoS as a true, traditional Castlevania title and view it as "Castlevania:The Movie:The Game," it becomes a lot more easier to enjoy :D


This is exactly how I view it. Sure, it's a little bit distorted, but LoS has that familiar anachronistic amalgam of ruined/ancient environments and random mythological beasts that are trademarks of Castlevania. Though, yeah, there were not enough traditional enemies/elements and a little too much in the way of high fantasy creatures and BRIGHT BRIGHT BRIIIIIGHT areas, especially for a game called Lords of SHADOW.

Number-one answer.

*clapping from audience*

Family Feud SNES TItle Music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afvou8rwCEM#)
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: KaZudra on August 26, 2011, 05:46:09 PM
No. Producers are the "this is our schedule" and "this is our budget" people.

Games are not films. I think you are the one that needs to do the learning before trying to correct people.

....really.... Explain Kojima's Cameo as the Chupacabra and Snake Bandana and eyepatch.

Cause the Director Clearly wanted MGS to be in Castlevania, Oh wait! Kojima Productions!!!!
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: C Belmont on August 26, 2011, 05:58:07 PM
Where exactly were you while this game was being created? Kojima only oversaw the project while Cox had final say it's been stated many a time (Although I highly doubt Cox would have just said "no" to any of Kojima's suggestions anyway). Interestingly though I recall my Games Design lecturer saying something about Marketing having more power than the producer with certain decisions.

Oh & Hey there is a reference to Zelda in LOS, does that mean Miyamoto made it too? :rollseyes:
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: KaZudra on August 26, 2011, 06:03:47 PM
Where exactly were you while this game was being created? Kojima only oversaw the project while Cox had final say it's been stated many a time. Mind you I recall my Games Design lecturer saying something about Marketing having more power than the producer with certain decisions.

Oh & Hey there is a reference to Zelda in LOS, does that mean Miyamoto made it too? :rollseyes:

I expect a Left Field Answer like that. but Explain how a concept originally Started to be a Simon's quest remake with many classic tunes and no dracula Belmont Turn into LoS about half way in? are you trying to say Cox intended to do that all on his own? I think not, Kojima and konami has more involvement that you'll know in this game.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: C Belmont on August 26, 2011, 06:20:36 PM
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but Explain how a concept originally Started to be a Simon's quest remake with many classic tunes and no dracula Belmont Turn into LoS about half way in

Maybe Cox was Kojima's puppet, or he just decided to imitate Kojima because he's supposedly a great developer...
Or Konami's indecisiveness about whether Mercury Steam was making a Castlevania game or not could have easily made them decide to just make their own IP regardless of Konami's final decison.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: whitedragon_nall on August 26, 2011, 07:29:13 PM
I don't get the whole "blame Kojima" thing. Hasn't Cox himself stated that Kojima was there only as an advisor to offer advice and give tips?
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: thernz on August 26, 2011, 07:45:51 PM
Cox was the producer, not Kojima.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on August 26, 2011, 07:52:36 PM
stop blaming kojima he has not hand in this

put the blame on Konami for leaving the series in vain
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: narkolepsi on August 26, 2011, 09:28:16 PM
I realized that if you stop trying to categorize LoS as a true, traditional Castlevania title and view it as "Castlevania:The Movie:The Game," it becomes a lot more easier to enjoy :D

and lets face it, Hollywood probably would've done a much worse job at adapting Castlevania than MercurySteam (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/c0mbat/laugh.gif)

That I can agree with. I would rather have LoS than the Wes Anderson project that keeps on bobbing around. I pray that project STAYS cancelled. Truth be told, I'm not too keen on the CVIII animated picture that's supposedly in the works, either.

IIRC, Kojima's role in the game was an auxiliary one, just to kind of steer it in the "right" direction. Says Cox, but he's Cox. And we all know what that means.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: uzo on August 27, 2011, 08:52:22 AM
@Kamui Zero

I am at an absolute loss for words here. No. Just no. C Belmont's post was defiantly NOT from 'left field' by any means.

I just... Where the hell do you come up with this??

*Tylenol*
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Dremn on August 27, 2011, 09:03:27 AM
Lords of Shadow's story was mainly handled by a comic book writer if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: thernz on August 27, 2011, 12:06:54 PM
A group of them and Cox. The comic book background probably explains things better than Kojima's presence.
Aheuheuehuehueh.
Title: Re: Konami's Tokyo Game Show Site Open
Post by: Sumac on August 27, 2011, 05:27:04 PM
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Or Konami's indecisiveness about whether Mercury Steam was making a Castlevania game or not could have easily made them decide to just make their own IP regardless of Konami's final decison.
From what could be pieced from Cox's interviews it is the most likely scenario.
Personally I am more or less believe in his words. Of course he will not spill everything about the inner workings of Konami, but I don't think that his every other word is a lie.

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BRIGHT BRIGHT BRIIIIIGHT areas, especially for a game called Lords of SHADOW.
So CastleVania never had BRIGHT, BRIGHT , BRIGHT areas before? :o