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Title: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on March 11, 2012, 07:20:48 AM
welcome guys its been a while since i posted here but school is keeping me busy these days


so the question is , do you remember the game they announced shortly after judgment and order of ecclesia and at the same event !!

do you remember when every fan was screaming "aaaalucaaaard !!" of course you everyone do

in 2008 igarashi announced the next installment of castlevania and its on both PS3 and xbox360 , after that short trailer i can't forget what he said "here we announced it and there is no going back "

so you think its canceled and iga has regretted his words , maybe konami forced him to not continue the project ? or maybe they're working on hidden ?
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a slow moving project ?!
Post by: C Belmont on March 11, 2012, 07:52:56 AM
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do you remember when every fan was screaming "aaaalucaaaard !!" of course you everyone do


I remember muttering "oh brother" not screaming "aaaalucaaaar"d !!" but anyway...
Since Castlevania's been rebooted & Konami's has found themslves a new collection of fans to cater to I doubt they are planning on releasing anything new which relates to the old unprofitable Castlevania series unless of course it's cheap as chips to create.
Besides hasn't Iga been doing other things lately?
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Nagumo on March 11, 2012, 07:54:39 AM
It's probably cancelled. There was a voice actor who mentioned he worked on a Castlevania game but that I got canned. He probably was talking about this game.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: JR on March 11, 2012, 07:55:48 AM

so you think its canceled and iga has regretted his words , maybe konami forced him to not continue the project ? or maybe they're working on hidden ?


Yeah, if I remember right it's speculated that this project was pitched at the same time as Lords of Shadow, and LoS was greenlit instead. Because I think Japan (the Alucardvania project you're mentioning), US (?) and Europe (LoS) were all pitching ideas at the same time, or something.

I could be remembering this incorrectly, though.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Nagumo on March 11, 2012, 08:09:39 AM
Now that you mention those pitches again...

It's also possible the guy was talking about that supposed American pitch for a CV game.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Kingshango on March 11, 2012, 11:57:43 AM
That game is most likely cancelled because:

1. Konami see's the Lords of Shadow arc as a top priority as far as Castlevania is concerned and wants to focus on that.

2. That trailer was first shown in 2008, Konami would never, ever, EVER give IGA that much development time for anything. Besides, IGA has already moved on to other smaller projects *cough shovelware cough.*
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 11, 2012, 12:02:23 PM
Yep it was probably canceled.

But from only that one trailer I get the feeling that I would have liked that game ALOT more than Lords of Shadow lol.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a slow moving project ?!
Post by: Maedhros on March 11, 2012, 01:21:51 PM


I remember muttering "oh brother" not screaming "aaaalucaaaar"d !!" but anyway...
Since Castlevania's been rebooted & Konami's has found themslves a new collection of fans to cater to I doubt they are planning on releasing anything new which relates to the old unprofitable Castlevania series unless of course it's cheap as chips to create.
Besides hasn't Iga been doing other things lately?
Besides the 3D games, every 2D game was profitable for Konami, as the budget for them wasn't high anyway. Castlevania was always a "decent seller".
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: beingthehero on March 11, 2012, 01:26:24 PM
Also, Lament sold well if i recall.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: crisis on March 11, 2012, 02:04:06 PM
There was this actor that did an interview a while back, I forget his name. Anyway, he confirmed that he was flown to Japan to do motion-capture work on an upcoming Castlevania game, but then re-confirmed to the press that the game was indeed "canceled."

David Cox was asked in an interview if he knows anything about that teaser trailer featuring Alucard. He said "I have no idea." He proclaimed that Japan, US & Europe made pitches for the next Castlevania game, his team was chosen, and the rest is history. So, either the higher-ups at Konami didn't feel it necessary to tell their lackeys the full truth of the status of this game/the series, or Dave Cox is lying.

IGA has been assigned to other projects, such as Harmony of Despair, LEEDMEES, and Scribblenauts. He has not mentioned the "Alucardvania" since it's reveal.


In conclusion, yes, that game was canned in favor of the Lords of Shadow "reboot." Konami hasn't revealed anything since, so there's no reason to believe it's still being developed "in secret" unless you're that naive to believe otherwise. Move along, nothing to see here, yadda yadda.

The Radio Drama was likely to serve as a prologue to this game. Probably would've explained in-depth what happened to Richiter and the whip, as well as other things. And yes, the soundtrack would've likely been a HELLUVA lot better than Lords, without a doubt. Probably the "aesthetic," too.

Castlevania PS3/360 '08 prototype (English Subtitles) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODb3IWXVh7o#)
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Ahasverus on March 11, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
Canceled.

It was IGA's Castlevania-Next-Gen pitch, but it was rejected because of this

Castlevania Lords of Shadow Simon Belmont Beta Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR2bb2OfdbY#ws)

Who could blame them?
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: TheouAegis on March 11, 2012, 03:28:51 PM
Weapon looked gay and critters don't look like that in CV. I'd have been fine with it if those were Fleamen. The Alucard teaser didn't reveal anything (and what the deuce, Al should know better than anyone his father was immortal until 1999), but I think the LOS teaser looks too retarded and gay and hokey; his attacks are too unrealistic. I'd have never greenlit that.
...
But i'd still hire MS for the CG cutscenes.  :o
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: beingthehero on March 11, 2012, 03:37:17 PM
Yes, it's certainly something to see Altaïr fight Gollum.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: shelverton. on March 11, 2012, 03:52:58 PM
Graphically, the Alucard teaser trailer looked like a Dreamcast game or something. I'm not surprised they canned it. Also, I bet the game would've turned out pretty much like CoD - flat, ugly and boring (but with great music).

I do love IGAs 2D games though, and I want more!
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Sumac on March 11, 2012, 06:41:22 PM
Adding something more relevant to the topic at hand: I've read on some Castlevania forum, that IGA was against showing this teaser at the convention. Dunno, if that true or not. And if that true I wonder why he was against this. Maybe because at the time Konami haven't decided which game they want to greenlit...?
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Ridureyu on March 11, 2012, 06:45:39 PM
I dunno, some of the girls in LOS were hot, but a lot were pretty ugly. I mean, Carmilla in human form was like that girl you dated back in high school, but then she turns into that girl twenty years later after two kids and... Wait, are we still on that topic?
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: thernz on March 11, 2012, 06:50:16 PM
I'm personally a Konami of America bugaboo.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: beingthehero on March 11, 2012, 07:22:59 PM
Can't we all agree on boobies


Also, I bet the game would've turned out pretty much like CoD - flat, ugly and boring (but with great music).
I do love IGAs 2D games though, and I want more!

That was the first thing I told Puwexil, that it was more likely than not going to be flat. In reality, I think it would depend on the director. Takeda Takashi directed Lament, Curse, and Nanobreaker. His approach to 3D games seemed rooted entirely around Dynasty Warriors. Everything had to have constant (but ultimately very bland) action in repetitive rooms to create the illusion of length. His only 2D game, Harmony of Dissonance, also had some flat, beat 'em up areas- the Castle Keep and Aqueduct of Dragons come to mind. That's why it's so weird to play those areas and then progress to, say, the Entrance Hall or Sky Walkway which are more SotN-and-Rondo-like design.

Also come on, guys. The whole pre-teen 'Cox/IGA is better!' is best left to the realms of Gamefaqs and console wars arguments.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Ridureyu on March 11, 2012, 07:40:03 PM
Can't we all agree on boobies

I bet we could get a vicious argument going on size and firmness.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on March 11, 2012, 09:40:03 PM
no no no LOS butt rangler.
Remember, it's "Coxsucker". LOL ;D

And Sumac, just like Ahasverus(every now and then), you get in your little bratty moods where you feel inclined to pick on people with a difference of opinion. Sometimes you are civil in your posts(sometimes).
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Ahasverus on March 12, 2012, 12:59:30 AM
Weapon looked gay and critters don't look like that in CV. I'd have been fine with it if those were Fleamen. The Alucard teaser didn't reveal anything (and what the deuce, Al should know better than anyone his father was immortal until 1999), but I think the LOS teaser looks too retarded and gay and hokey; his attacks are too unrealistic. I'd have never greenlit that.
But i'd still hire MS for the CG cutscenes.
What a guy, wait, isn't this bannable?

On a related note, no, they shouldn't hire MS for CG cutscenes, because that's their in-game engine (you didn't play LoS did you?), not like Alucard's trailer that probably took 2 months of pre-rendering at IGA's HQ to look like a PS2 Hd-re-release.

And this thread is a JOKE, what a bunch of dumbasses WE ALL LOOK in here, Jorge, CLOSE THIS CIRCUS PLEASE
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: crisis on March 12, 2012, 01:24:12 AM
^the quote in your signature is incorrect o.o;
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Ahasverus on March 12, 2012, 01:30:51 AM
^the quote in your signature is incorrect o.o;
Oh, I never changed it, when i first wrote it in its original form it was correct, but Jorge politely asked me to change it because it was too spoilery. I will fix it, some day  :P
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: TheouAegis on March 12, 2012, 02:14:01 AM
It's bannable if you're from Tennessee, in which case George Takei would like to have a word with you.

CG or in-game engine or whatever, they could still incorporate the engine (which is technically CG anyway) into a movie to embed in the game (if the Alucard one got greenlit instead, I mean).
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Ridureyu on March 12, 2012, 04:37:49 AM
Hey, I'm in Tennessee!
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: TheouAegis on March 12, 2012, 05:15:16 AM
George Takei would like a word with you, then.  ;)

Lucky punk. Wish I could meet him. Suppose I could have if I ever went to a Trekkie convention, but I'll pass on those.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Ridureyu on March 12, 2012, 05:37:09 AM
It'd be worth it just to meet the actors while being a halfway decent human being.

FUN THING TO DO: Go to a Star Wars convention, meet Ray Park, and talk about his role in the second Mortal Kombat movie.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Arma on March 12, 2012, 12:21:22 PM
Ha ha perhaps they just published both teasers and decided which one to make based on the responses. I remember back then I read a lot more negative than positive comments about the new Alucardvania, while LoS teaser got better response from the general public. I personally wasn't interested in it, specially after the radio drama that was supposed to be the game's prequel according to what I read from some Alucard fan's blogs.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on March 12, 2012, 01:01:01 PM
Ha ha perhaps they just published both teasers and decided which one to make based on the responses. I remember back then I read a lot more negative than positive comments about the new Alucardvania, while LoS teaser got better response from the general public. I personally wasn't interested in it, specially after the radio drama that was supposed to be the game's prequel according to what I read from some Alucard fan's blogs.

Wait, I thought the radio drama was the sequel of SotN.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: VampirehunterB on March 12, 2012, 02:18:01 PM
Im glad they cancelled the new Alucard project..I don't trust their motivation nor their budget to bring the game up to its full potential!
Do it good and it would probably have become the best thing ever. but, without real motivational spirit nor budget we can face nothing but disappointment. sad but true. Hence they make our beloved series into just another mainstream franchise(LoS) with no (what I call castlevania) whatsoever.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Flame on March 12, 2012, 03:07:08 PM
All this LoS hate... Why is it no thread here can go more than a few posts without leading into IGAVania vs CoxVania?

It's getting annoying at this point because all it ends up being is "Oh how sad... this game that isnt even castlevania :'("

and such comments, without any real discussion or reasoning behind them. Just mindless dislike because it's  not an IGAVania, which is what the franchise has been represented by for the longest time now.

The more I play it really, the more it reminds me of Classicvania. It's basically a classicvania dressed up in fancy shmancy 3D HD clothes. It's a pretty linear straight path, but gives the illusion of freedom by utilizing it's 3D element to include a few branching paths or platforming segments here or there that lead to goodies.  But the more you look at it, it's paths are very strict. You cant even go through the greenery sometimes. DEM INVISIBLE WALLS.

Also, I just noticed, and this surprised me, the track Waterfalls of Agharta is not played anywhere in the actual Level, Waterfalls of Agharta. Or at least I didn't notice it.

Weird.

Back on topic though, can we close this topic? wev'e already discussed the matter to death, and come to the conclusion that it was probably IGA's pitch that was ultimately scrapped in favor of Cox's pitch of a CV1 remake which became LoS eventually. We have no other information, and anything theorizing is really just that. opinions and ideas, all of which are endless but none of which are particularly useful for anything other than making arguments debates and lengthened discussions on nothing.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: uzo on March 12, 2012, 03:42:36 PM
I love how the minute anyone mentions anything related to LoS, someone comes in with a DOESN'T FEEL LIKE CV and the thread is forever derailed into a debate of WHAT IS AND ISN'T CV. Every LoS thread starts out like this by default too.

What a guy, wait, isn't this bannable?

What's wrong with hokey? Am I missing some sort of horrible slang meaning?

It's bannable if you're from Tennessee
Hey, I'm in Tennessee!

BANNED
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Nagumo on March 12, 2012, 03:55:24 PM
I think the problem is more that when anybody mentions LoS, some people feel the need to be defensive about it, regardless of its relevance to the thread at hand. 
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: crisis on March 12, 2012, 04:06:39 PM
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I think the problem is more that when anybody mentions LoS, some people feel the need to be defensive about it, regardless of its relevance to the thread at hand.

word. The thing is, they read something they don't like then they feed into it, which drags it out further (i admit, i've been guilty of this too). Don't like what you're reading? Then stop fucking posting here & go to another forum, or ignore the topic altogether. Pleading for Jorge to "plz close this topic cuz i dont like what people are saying" isn't gonna end the LoS/IGAvania debates. No one's insulting each other's family members or anything personal, sheesh.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 12, 2012, 04:07:23 PM
I think the problem is more that when anybody mentions LoS, some people feel the need to be defensive about it, regardless of its relevance to the thread at hand.

This^^^
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: sad6666 on March 12, 2012, 04:41:08 PM
General Castlevania Discussion is no more. There should be some new categories: General CoxVania Discussion and General IgaVania Discussion, no crossovers allowed :P
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: beingthehero on March 12, 2012, 04:59:08 PM
I've never played coxvania or igavania, but i have played Castlevania.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: shelverton. on March 12, 2012, 05:34:51 PM
There's way too much focus on producers and directors anyway. Back in the day you'd think "this is a konami game" and be done with it. Sometimes people would even say "this a nintendo game" if it was released on the NES. Today you're not even talking about what series a game is part of, it's all about the person behind it. Which is why we've gone from "I like Nintendo games" to "I like Konami games" to "I like Castlevania games" to "I like IGAvanias/Coxvanias". I wonder if people can narrow this down further? Cause GOD FORBID if anyone should just like Castlevania as a franchise.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Puwexil on March 12, 2012, 05:51:49 PM
I don't see how it's a bad thing that people responsible for video games are now actually recognized for their hard work, so long as discussions pertaining to it are carried intelligently, free of finger-pointing dramatics. I'd rather choose to think I'm supporting an individual person or a team under their guidance whose work I enjoy, instead of a faceless corporate entity that only hosts the talent and people who really matter.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Dark Nemesis on March 12, 2012, 06:03:50 PM
I've never played coxvania or igavania, but i have played Castlevania.

This^^^


 For me isn't IGAvania or COXvania, Just Castlevania, i don't care who is making it, as long as it stays true to it's spirit and it is fun to play with it.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Kingshango on March 12, 2012, 06:22:15 PM
I'd say everyones to blame, everyone gets a spanking for being bad! :)


And yes the question at hand has been answered, the project was scrapped in favor of Lords of Shadow and will most likely stay scrapped.

If IGA is up to something we'll know in a few months, if we dont then.......oh well. *shrug*
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Post by: Flame on March 12, 2012, 06:30:30 PM
here are two of the previous finding the Castlevania in LoS topics.

http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,2818 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,2818)
http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,3625 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,3625)

just for reference, since this thread has become what is and isnt Castlevania, like most threads seem to become nowadays that there isnt anything else to talk about.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Arma on March 12, 2012, 09:13:49 PM
Wait, I thought the radio drama was the sequel of SotN.

I can't say anything for sure but I read it was both, first they said it was SoTN sequel and later that the radio drama was also a prequel to the new game, apparently it left the story set for a plot were Alucard gets tempted again to the bad side and apparently Maria had something to do, it looks like he was going to kill her or something like that.
Pure guesses really, you may believe them or not.
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Post by: Ahasverus on March 12, 2012, 09:15:23 PM
I can't say anything for sure but I read it was both, first they said it was SoTN sequel and later that the radio drama was also a prequel to the new game, apparently it left the story set for a plot were Alucard gets tempted again to the bad side and apparently Maria had something to do, it looks like he was going to kill her or something like that.
Pure guesses really, you may believe them or not.
Nothing like that. It ended with Alucard and Richter killing the Inccubus Magnus and Ryudmil sacrificing himself. The cliffhanger was about a purposedly shocking secret he told to Richter before dying. Also, Richter can't use the Vk anymore.
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Post by: Sumac on March 12, 2012, 09:16:32 PM
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Today you're not even talking about what series a game is part of, it's all about the person behind it.
I am not against associating certain people with games. In many respects it is the same as associating directors / producers with movies - you know what you can you get from the game that was created by that person. However, I admit, sometimes those debates goes a little overboard, since nor COX, not IGA are the only people in charge of their respective projects.

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I think the problem is more that when anybody mentions LoS, some people feel the need to be defensive about it, regardless of its relevance to the thread at hand.

Some fans liked LOS and they tired of constant bashing from certain people who couldn't miss an opportunity to bash the game, regardless how much it is have to do with the topic at hand. It is natural response. I bet you do the same, if someone insulted one of your favorite games in the series.
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Post by: Arma on March 12, 2012, 09:17:31 PM
Nothing like that. It ended with Alucard and Richter killing the Inccubus Magnus and Ryudmil sacrificing himself. The cliffhanger was about a purposedly shocking secret he told to Richter before dying. Also, Richter can't use the Vk anymore.

I know the radio drama, I was talking about the possible plot of the canceled game and its relation to the radio drama.
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Post by: shelverton. on March 12, 2012, 10:06:51 PM
All I'm saying is that it was easier before when everyone was naive and thought that Konami was a group of people making all Konami games. We didn't need names nor did anyone care. Today we know way too much. Much of the criticism that video game developers are facing today wouldn't have existed in, say, 1989 or even 1996. Imagine the DMC reboot if there was no internet. Nobody would've known that the developer was a douche and people wouldn't bitch about the game.

Not that this new knowledge is bad, it just makes talking about video games more complicated. Like, sometimes I don't know if people hate LoS because they truly don't think it plays like Castlevania, or because they simply know too much about the development. Like, just knowing that Mercury Steam made the game was offputting enough for many of us. IT'S NOT MADE BY THE SAME PEOPLE AND THEREFOR IT IS NOT CASTLEVANIA!

Knowing that it was almost turned into another game altogether doesn't make it better either. If we didn't know all that, how would the game have been recieved? If we didn't know about IGA, Cox or anything but the name KONAMI, what would've happened? Naturally we will never know.

I think LoS feels like a modern Castlevania. I just realise that I don't care for modern Castlevanias that much. I want retro. But at the same time I can't see how LoS could've been any other way.
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Post by: Ahasverus on March 12, 2012, 11:36:20 PM
I agree with Shelverton, LoS is the most modern you could get away with a ClassicVania in 3D, if anything, the sequel, as polished as it will be, will be even more distant from the old school conventions (good or bad? that depends on you).
And also, yeah, if this was the 90's LoS would have been just another Cv from konami and everyone's happy, but yeah times change.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Flame on March 13, 2012, 03:51:30 AM
I agree with Shelverton, LoS is the most modern you could get away with a ClassicVania in 3D, if anything, the sequel, as polished as it will be, will be even more distant from the old school conventions (good or bad? that depends on you).
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Dunno, I would think that since they can develop the sequel without the lingering question of "Will Konami let us make it a Castlevania game or make us turn it into a new  IP", they would have more freedom to include more of what they seem to like doing in LOS, which is re-imagining the old canon and parts of it in new ways, like old tunes and old enemies. Tons of things in LoS are shoutouts to the old canon, and that was with the game that flip flopped between Castlevania and IP till Konami made up it's mind. I would imagine the sequel to have much more of that.

ESPECIALLY now that they have both a Dracula, AND a Vampire Castle, which turned out to be sort of plot relevant, and seemed to get the most attention compared to the rest of the areas. And it didn't crumble either, unlike Walter's castle in LoI...

Wouldnt surprise me if the sequel has more of the same traveling through different areas, but eventually leads to a confrontation with Gabuella in the Vampire Castle. They have already established that it constantly changes, allowing for different level designs, (although the castle is so fuckoff huge that it doesnt even need to change, just set the areas in a different part of that huge thing) just like the old one did, and considering it's a Vampire castle and Gabe became a powerful Vampire... 2+2...

of course I could be totally wrong. But it's fun to speculate and later see just how close you were.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Nagumo on March 13, 2012, 05:53:12 AM
Some fans liked LOS and they tired of constant bashing from certain people who couldn't miss an opportunity to bash the game, regardless how much it is have to do with the topic at hand. It is natural response. I bet you do the same, if someone insulted one of your favorite games in the series.

As far as I know you're the only person bothers to reply to every post that contains criticism about Lords of Shadow, almost as if you think you can change our opinions that way, or that you somehow objectively right about all this. Other people who like that game have learned to let it go a long time ago, or are at least not being obnoxious when stating their opinion       
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Post by: meanguyjones on March 13, 2012, 11:46:22 PM
was there seriously anyone that didn't laugh hard at that trailer with its 2002 graphics

i refuse to believe that anyone seeing it could come out with a favorable impression of it
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: Flame on March 14, 2012, 12:07:13 AM
I couldnt honestly get any impression from it since all it basically amounts to is a cutscene that doesnt exactly show much but Alucard being all dark and cool. I was certainly intrigued as to what they would do with a 3D Alucard, and how well they would do it, but cant say I had any sort of actual impression.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 14, 2012, 12:14:18 AM


i refuse to believe that anyone seeing it could come out with a favorable impression of it

Its unfortunate that you refuse to acknowledge the fact that some fans had a favorable impression of it.

I for one am one of the fans that was really looking forward to it.

1.It featured the return of my favorite CV character Alucard
2.Alucard now done "properly" in 3D instead of that trainwreck in Judgment
3.It was heavily rumored to be a sequel to my favorite CV game of all time Castlevania Symphony of the Night

Those little things made me really look forward to it, also I wanted IGA to finally get his 3D formula right with this one and prove a lot of people wrong.

And the "2002" graphics things is a bit of a exaggeration IMO.

Sure they aren't that great compared to the standards of today, but they still weren't "early PS2" graphics like I heard some fans saying.

Also keep in mind that that was a very early "prototype" trailer that wasn't even ready to be shown yet.

For all we know IGA fully intended on updating the graphics once he actually got a change to fully work on the actual game.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: beingthehero on March 14, 2012, 12:16:59 AM
That 10-second video was so blurry that I couldn't tell what kind of graphics it had.
Title: Re: canceled project ?! or its a secret project ?!
Post by: meanguyjones on March 14, 2012, 12:21:58 AM
Its unfortunate that you refuse to acknowledge the fact that some fans had a favorable impression of it.

I for one am one of the fans that was really looking forward to it.

1.It featured the return of my favorite CV character Alucard
2.Alucard now done "properly" in 3D instead of that trainwreck in Judgment
3.It was heavily rumored to be a sequel to my favorite CV game of all time Castlevania Symphony of the Night

Those little things made me really look forward to it, also I wanted IGA to finally get his 3D formula right with this one and prove a lot of people wrong.

And the "2002" graphics things is a bit of a exaggeration IMO.

Sure they aren't that great compared to the standards of today, but they still weren't "early PS2" graphics like I heard some fans saying.

Also keep in mind that that was a very early "prototype" trailer that wasn't even ready to be shown yet.

For all we know IGA fully intended on updating the graphics once he actually got a change to fully work on the actual game.

hey pal, i like alucard and sotn as much as the next guy but that doesn't mean i'm going to be excited when i see a red eyed alucard that looks like he came straight out of super mario sunshine in a 20 second clip that showed nothing other than horrible graphics and that alucards life sucks

i don't think iga fully intended to do anything if this was his pitch going up against lords of shadow and the american teams game

to each his own though lil buddy
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 14, 2012, 12:28:17 AM
hey pal, i like alucard and sotn as much as the next guy but that doesn't mean i'm going to be excited when i see a red eyed alucard that looks like he came straight out of super mario sunshine in a 20 second clip that showed nothing other than horrible graphics and that alucards life sucks

i don't think iga fully intended to do anything if this was his pitch going up against lords of shadow and the american teams game

to each his own though lil buddy

Well I completely disagree with everything you said.

But yea, to each his own.

Just giving my 2 cents on the matter.
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Post by: VampirehunterB on March 14, 2012, 12:53:57 AM
Im sorry to say that our beloved castlevania genre has reached its end IMO..

I would be satisfied if Ayami Kojima made well illustrated mangas of Cv I, II, III,  LoI, HoD, sotn and AoS to give us more back and future events of the storylines. there's great potential to make beautiful art as well as in depth stories..but that's just my dream I guess..
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Post by: Ahasverus on March 14, 2012, 02:19:18 AM
I think it's an universal truth that graphics sucked in that trailer.
What an irony.
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Post by: Sumac on March 14, 2012, 01:00:32 PM
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Those little things made me really look forward to it, also I wanted IGA to finally get his 3D formula right with this one and prove a lot of people wrong.
As if he didn't have this chance with COD...just saying.  8)
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Post by: VampirehunterB on March 14, 2012, 01:16:03 PM
concerning the graphics, I think the budget has been the problem, more support and cash wouldn't have harmed=p
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Post by: TheouAegis on March 14, 2012, 01:57:13 PM
I can't help but wonder if the situation was...

IGA: "I work for Konami. I can make any game I want. You there! Throw together a video showing Alcuard in 3D."
Mercury Steam: "This is our chance to make a name for ourselves and lots of money! You! You! You! Intern, you too! Here's five grand. Make me a badass demo clip!"
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Post by: DragonSlayr81 on March 14, 2012, 02:06:56 PM
Still makes me curious to what the American pitch was(LOL, though worst case scenario, I'm thinking post-apocalypitic roughneck-type Marine badass with a cyber-charged UV whip in one hand an a pulse cannon on the other, fighting his way through bio-vampires in the ruined streets of New York City). Also, wasn't Cox unaware what the Japanese pitch was? Did he even see that Alucard video?

Though, now that I think of it, releasing a proposed "pitch" at a game show(wasn't it E3 or something) was just bad form on Konami's part, in general. You don't release pitches of games(that may not even get greenlit) to the public. It's one of those boneheaded movies some companies do. Kinda like Capcom's Darkstalker 4 reveal, which was more of a "Oh, we aren't making it, but just show us(Capcom) you want it by showing you money and we'll consider it!". It's just bad form and overall douchery.
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Post by: beingthehero on March 14, 2012, 02:12:45 PM
I can't help but wonder if the situation was...

IGA: "I work for Konami. I can make any game I want. You there! Throw together a video showing Alcuard in 3D."
Mercury Steam: "This is our chance to make a name for ourselves and lots of money! You! You! You! Intern, you too! Here's five grand. Make me a badass demo clip!"

Making fan-fiction out of real people is terrible and dumb. It's what gave us "IGA has a grudge against KCEK for something something HATES ALL BELMONTS SONIA4LYFE" that has plagued this fan base for over a decade. We're injecting conspiracies and rivalries where there aren't any.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 14, 2012, 02:36:33 PM
This thread has been cleaned up and I've removed the nonsense that Sumac and DarkPrinceAlucard have been spewing.
Also, the both of you get warnings, since apparently I have to go clean up yet another thread after this.
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 14, 2012, 03:22:56 PM
As if he didn't have this chance with COD...just saying.  8)

Well as the old saying goes, third time's the charm...just saying. 8)
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Post by: Vrakanox on March 14, 2012, 04:26:26 PM
I still want that Alucard game.
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Post by: Chernabogue on March 14, 2012, 04:35:59 PM
I don't understand. Why are people so wanting a game just because we have seen a 30-second-low-quality video? Is that just about Alucard?
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Post by: beingthehero on March 14, 2012, 04:43:59 PM
Same reason people wanted to play Resurrection after it was canned. I think it's less about the characters or development team, and more about the fascination with what could have been.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 14, 2012, 06:06:03 PM
I wanna play Resurrection (DC), The Beta Castlevania 64 (with Coller for N64), the X360 Alucard Game, and Castlevania Bloodletting for 32X. ;)
Also, the Beta Bloodlines and the Commercial/Beta Super Castlevania IV. :P
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Post by: Flame on March 14, 2012, 06:22:26 PM
I still want Sonic Xtreme. :<
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Post by: Kingshango on March 14, 2012, 06:32:25 PM
I still want Starcraft Ghost.
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 14, 2012, 06:37:10 PM
And I want Resident evil 3.5 (hookedman version).

Something about what "could have been" always seems to intrigue people, including myself.
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Post by: Sumac on March 14, 2012, 08:07:17 PM
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I wanna play Resurrection (DC), The Beta Castlevania 64 (with Coller for N64), the X360 Alucard Game, and Castlevania Bloodletting for 32X.
Also, the Beta Bloodlines
Ditto.
Though I doubt that CV64 beta and CV32X even exist in playable forms. As for the others - there is some information that disk with CVR do exist and we know that CVB beta cart is somewhere outhtere. So there is still hope to see them.
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Post by: KaZudra on March 15, 2012, 01:59:12 AM
How about Shin Dracula X, that looked awesome (despite being totally fake)
Bloodletting could still work if they just make em all new characters.
I wanna play LoS on PC so I can sulk in 1080p goodness with 60 frames per second


but overall, I wanna play Castlevania X360 with the latest Fox Engine and be on X360, Ps3, Wii U, PC, and PS Vita
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Post by: Neobelmont on March 15, 2012, 05:55:52 AM
This is the closest I have heard concerning the game and it's canned
just skip to 3:26

Putting the Acting in Voice Acting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koqO6OsyMBI#)
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Post by: Munchy on March 15, 2012, 07:17:04 PM
And I want Resident evil 3.5 (hookedman version).

Something about what "could have been" always seems to intrigue people, including myself.

I'm very sad that the remnants of that game weren't used to make a new IP.
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 15, 2012, 07:27:18 PM
I'm very sad that the remnants of that game weren't used to make a new IP.

I know right?

That game had something that most of RE4 lacked and that is actual HORROR.

The game was set in a spooky castle which had demonic puppets and ghosts coming at you. Doesn't get any scarier than that lol. But I can however see why Capcom would change it to what turned into RE4. The resident evil series has never been about the "supernatural" and has always been about "bioterror" so it would have been out of the traditional RE element to have a game like that.