Castlevania games have done a lot of different things over the years, but it wasn't until Lords of Shadow that I found myself looking at a game in the series and wondering, "Why the fuck is this a Castlevania game?"
I think Lords of Shadow is an ok game, but it's just incredibly generic.
see, I disagree.
LoS. Could have been another game without the Castlevania title.
MoF. QTEs, Checkpoints, Button Mashing.
I want to know why is, they hate the games of cox so much, i am try to write with no insult, i want to know why, i want to know why they hate mirror of fate and lords of shadows and every thing, don't come to tell me if you like, i know why is the best game, this is for peoples they hate it, i want to know why, its just that, i don't understand.
i see....but i still can't understand the things they sayed, when i play old castlevanias lot years back i believe they are ok, and then igarashis did these things they sayed you here all, to me that not feel like castlevania, so i don't play them any more, and wait, and cox enter and make lords of shadows and i think is excelent titles, and can't see why it is, the hate, why it is, they sayed music is not good, or the enemy of the games, i think they are best here comparing to old castlevanias, i don't know, but i can't talk of igarashi or the leader of the forum will say to me i am the rude, if i talk i can't say one good or i have to say a lie, the truth is i see cox games is the best in the history of castlevania, i want more people to see the way, and understand they so excelent because Spain have long tradition of horror, i enjoy that and other poeple don't see it.
and the thing i sayed about spanish horror tradition is because i sawed movies and always i think this is excelent and feel castlevania, the castlevanias must be this, and then enter cox and make exactly this, and this is why, this i believe the best castlevanias are make by mercurysteam, because they are like i think they need be, spanish horror is the best clima for a movie, for a game, and for anything, today i look at the old castlevanias, they are ok many of the games, but cant comparing to mercurysteam games.
Also, trash talking IGA had been done so many times before. It doesn't add anything to the discussion, especially not since he's not even making Castlevania games anymore.
IGA's secretly working on the long-awaited "Alucardvania" that was first revealed in 2008. This is common knowledge, and it's going to be awesomesauce.
IGA's secretly working on the long-awaited "Alucardvania" that was first revealed in 2008. This is common knowledge, and it's going to be awesomesauce.
my sorry for writing in spanish, its that i want to aclarate some thing, and if is some one can understand the thing i say here it is very important for me in the forum, and its the leader ask me to write in the decent english, its that i cant to the english, that, i try to the best almost read is more easy what write, its i am not stupid, poeple they can ansewr me in the decent english and i understand the mayority of the sense.
and the thing i sayed about spanish horror tradition is because i sawed movies and always i think this is excelent and feel castlevania, the castlevanias must be this
but when enter cox he continuate the way of the old games,
and is best of all castlevanias, because tecnology now make the graphic and the music of all the best, the old games is excelent for the year of the out come, but now they look old, because its old games, lords of shadows is the idea of old castlevanias with the tecnology of today,
is the motive is the best,
because i dont see that they people call metroidvania as the castlevania feel, but lords of shadows and mirror of fate and lords of shadows 2 and future games of cox and of mercurysteam, yes it is.
I can't believe nobody has mentioned the horrible boss battles. Ice Titan has got to be one of the worst bosses I've ever encountered in a game.Specifically just the Ice Titan?
Not in the look, not in the music, not in the story, not in the enemies, not in the level design, not in the humor, not in the overall atmosphere/presentation, JUST NO.I disagree.
I remember when Cox admittedly said that Castlevania and Akumajo Dracula isnt the same thing.
I would implore our Spanish-speaking brethren to help us get the point across to Steampunk, in an effort to salvage some kind communication and not write him off as a ignorant troll repeating himself.
Jorge. Get yer ass over here.
Cox no es ni japonés o estadounidense. Por esa razón, sus juegos de Castlevania no son Castlevania. Por su propia admisión, carece de la comprensión de lo que hace un juego de Castlevania un juego de Castlevania. Los programadores de un país que no es los EE.UU. imbuido su juego con los tropos de terror americanas. Cox no hizo tal cosa. Él es un productor de vídeo buen juego, pero se deshonró a la comunidad Castlevania. El Señor de las Sombras serie podrían ser buenos juegos, pero no son material de Castlevania.
Perdonen mi españolas - No me importa lo suficiente como para corregir Google.
I remember when Cox said forget everything you know about castlevania.
I now wish i could get to learn some Spanish, but, i do spot some keywords i understand. ;D
Thus he should make a new game instead of piggybacking on the Castlevania name.
Google Translate is decent with Spanish to English; it's good enough that you'd be able to get the gist of what's being said, anyway.
There are some really good comments here and there that look at the finer details on the gameplay elements like platforming, combat, QTE, shimmying.
and they were harshing Spain again, the people need to see Japan is not country to make good game of horror, one people sayed cox is not from japan or usa what he cant make good castlevanias, is so wrong that.
this to one write thing of page 3: and they were harshing Spain again, the people need to see Japan is not country to make good game of horror, one people sayed cox is not from japan or usa what he cant make good castlevanias, is so wrong that.
cox know he is making the best castlevania
is not the arrogant man
is the super clever
people with right mind see he is superior
now he is number 1 of castlevania
true fans of old castlevanias now want to see it in graphic and music of today
but mirror of fate is best what symphony of the night, and now it started again, the fans of igarashis now envidiate the superior game
cox is best producer and his ideas is the best
the graphics and music in a best
see, I disagree.I think the majority of people saw the teaser as being CV-like SOLELY because Gabriel was wielding a whip. If they switched his weapon to just a plain broadsword, I'm pretty sure most people would write it off as yet another "medieval fantasy" game. The WEAPON meant the world of difference. Then again, how many video games heroes actually USE whips as their main weapons?
were it a new Ip, people would instead be talking about how much like castlevania it is, and much like Hideo Kojima, wondering why it ISNT a cv game.,
no but you not see the point i sayed, the thing is spanish horror movies have that of feel that cant be sayed in a words, its some thing you feel, the same of lords of shadows.I think we all know the point you are saying, you just can't see the point WE are saying.
speaking of horror movies, castlevania in 3D would be great if it was like an argento giallo. italian horror in general had strangely idiosyncratic cinematography and colors that were actually good.If only it was the GOOD Argento of the 70s and 80s, not the crappy MODERN Argento.
I remember when Cox admittedly said that Castlevania and Akumajo Dracula isnt the same thing.Cox surely knows what he's saying. I mean, he DID make up the world "Castlevania" back in 1986, did he not? ;D Only HE has the right to say what is "Castlevania" and what is not, and how "Castlevania" is DIFFERENT than "Akumajo Dracula".
but mercurysteam is spanish and that helps to make the best games, is what i see and i can't see other way.You mean, Mercury Steam makes the best games because of their SKILLED programmers and visionary talents, not because they come from Spain(which is irrelevent). It's not BECAUSE they come from Spain, they just HAPPEN to come from Spain.
like cox games because... mercurysteam is spanish
people need to see Japan is not country to make good game of horror
and i don't know why, still, the many people dont see lords of shadows to be equal to old castlevanias but with esplendid graphics and music.
i need answer i dont need ruding.
By saying that Spain is the best at something no matter what and completely ignoring the fact of life that people have different tastes and that there is nothing strange about it, you are being obtuse.
I think he's acting like a parallelogram :-\
haha silly rabbit, i was just being facetious :-*
the igarashi fanboys ruined me in the other forums and i enter here because i see people is more civilizated.
i dont want to write in gamefaqs never.
yes they was music in cox games, it is esplendid, michiru yamane music to me is nothing to do with horror, maestro araujo did the perfect for the ocasion.
and is exact of what i writed, i like lords of shadows and i don't know why other people hate it, but is not ok, i want to understand why, because i see it is a old castlevania with graphics and music of today, the only one conclusion i can take it is what castlevania fans dont like mercurysteam because the graphic and music is new, is the oposite exact of what hapened to me of the wiiware castlevania, and harmony of despair, i don't like because they look old, and the clima is bad because it dont have the horror clima when you play, and the fantasy of the game, the manly warrior in a world of monsters and sobrenatural facts, and the music was like japan pop, but maestro araujo music it make me put the skin of chicken, and scare.
i don't write igarashi because the leader sayed it hurt fans, i writed because they writed other forums like gamefaqs, and in other forums the igarashis fanboys ruined me, now i dont want this to hapen again here, i make peace will all people.
and i am not one troll i am very man, i never sayed gay again so not ruding to me now, i make peace.
and i am not one troll i am very man, i never sayed gay again so not ruding to me now, i make peace.
Just need a thread lock. If he reopens the topic, that'd be grounds for a ban. But this-- this is just grounds for a thread lock. I'd hate to see him go. He's kinda cute the more I read his posts. He's like the little Vietnamese guy in your workplace or at the grocery store. You think, "Man, this guy is annoying. And his English is so bad it's funny!" But then one day you go to your work or to the store and the little Vietnamese guy isn't there and suddenly you're sad that he's not there anymore. Everyone makes fun of him -- even you -- because he's not there so his feelings won't get hurt, but all the while you're still inwardly sad because you secretly miss the little annoying Vietnamese guy with the funny English.
Granted, this guy's Spanish and not as cute, but the idea still fits.
(I used to work with a little Viet guy and his FUCKING HOT VIET WIFE, but I quit that job and miss them -- even after three years.)
WTF someone downvoted Lelygax for saying to give Steampunk a chance to redeem himself? Man, there be some haters on tonight.
Castlevania isn't a horror game, it's a horror parody, an homage to horror movies. That's one place Cox messed up big time.If that's the case, that train derailed back when Rondo Came out, and turned it more into an anime about Belmonts Vs Dracula. Sure, it still had a few of the classic creatures, (particularly the Shaft boss rush) but for the most part, it sort of strayed from the Monster Mash Universal Studios Horror parody. Bloodlines continued that, and instead tied the franchise to the original novel. From there, Symphony of the Night took that and since then it's stopped being that. (This is not counting all the CV1 remakes, which mostly tend to retain that kind of movie feel, complete with Chronicles grainy movie thing in the intro.)
If that's the case, that train derailed back when Rondo Came out, and turned it more into an anime about Belmonts Vs Dracula. Sure, it still had a few of the classic creatures, (particularly the Shaft boss rush) but for the most part, it sort of strayed from the Monster Mash Universal Studios Horror parody. Bloodlines continued that, and instead tied the franchise to the original novel. From there, Symphony of the Night took that and since then it's stopped being that. (This is not counting all the CV1 remakes, which mostly tend to retain that kind of movie feel, complete with Chronicles grainy movie thing in the intro.)
LoS is actually far closer to the movie type origins than one might think. Criticize what you want about it being too much like a modern blockbuster movie, but I think that was kind of the point. It sort of took that movie idea that early CV games had, and evolved it to modern standards. Instead of the cheesy B Horror movie parody, it's more a Modern Blockbuster horror/action movie parody. Of, y'know, movies like Van Helsing. >_>
I just realized... Van Helsing sort of IS a B grade action/horror movie. So LoS is still drawing from B movies ;D
I just realized... Van Helsing sort of IS a B grade action/horror movie. So LoS is still drawing from B movies ;DSomewhat. It DID take itself more seriously, though(Van Helsin was very campy). I'm also lead to believe(as I'm sure others have draw this connection) that it's also taken some of it's inspiration from the Peter Jackson LotR movies. Particularly the overall "Dark Medieval Fantasy" bit(as well as the "epic sounding" music), and those movies aren't really B grade movies.
Welcome back Flame :)I went somewhere?
Somewhat. It DID take itself more seriously, though(Van Helsin was very campy). I'm also lead to believe(as I'm sure others have draw this connection) that it's also taken some of it's inspiration from the Peter Jackson LotR movies. Particularly the overall "Dark Medieval Fantasy" bit(as well as the "epic sounding" music), and those movies aren't really B grade movies.Well, LotR DID set a standard. it was the biggest thing when it was new, and every movie since has tried to be it.
Well, LotR DID set a standard. it was the biggest thing when it was new, and every movie since has tried to be it.
I went somewhere?
Well, LotR DID set a standard. it was the biggest thing when it was new, and every movie since has tried to be it.
fanatical Cox loving
Well, LotR DID set a standard. it was the biggest thing when it was new, and every movie since has tried to be it.Stuff like that is a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing because honestly, I like that style of medieval fantasy, but it's a curse because it limits the artistic freedom. To bank on the LotR look, it hinders a lot of other ideas solely to capitalize on the "trend", which I've never been a supporter of.
Lords of Shadows replaces the Hollywood big budget movie directed by Paul W.S. Anderson we never got, and that's a blessing
Stuff like that is a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing because honestly, I like that style of medieval fantasy, but it's a curse because it limits the artistic freedom. To bank on the LotR look, it hinders a lot of other ideas solely to capitalize on the "trend", which I've never been a supporter of.
That being said, I still believe that style in look is better fitting for a "type" of story/game. Castlevania, IMO, maybe not much. Then again, I never envisioned(my personal perception) the medieval CV's the look AS medieval as "Ye Olde Tolkien/D&D"-esque realm. If EA ever rebooted the Ultima series(instead of doing those crappy social games), the LotR look would be PERFECT for THAT. I think it was just easier for me to suspend my disbelief with CV(the early medieval ones) as being a melange of different styles, despite them taking place in the 1400s-1600s. I never had to question why Dracula, in the 15th through 17th centuries, was dressed like a nobleman of the early 20th century. That's just me, though.
Nice to know I'm not the only one that disliked LOTR. All my friends hate on me cuz I talk bad about LOTR. Jackson really did fuck it up, him and the scriptwriters. Hobbit is jacked too, but so far I'm liking Hobbit way more than I ever liked LOTR. Although I'm still furious they keep adding shit to the story that was never actually there.
He he he. LotR is the Star Wars of this era and whether you like it or not, it will stay as the standard until some other film creates a new standard.I actually loved the LotR movies, and the style works for SOME fantasy, not all. Again, I never been big on trend. It's just something sheeple praise as a false idol until they spam the hell out of it, get sick of it, and then look for something new to prop up on their pop culture altars. Blegh! :rollseyes:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.powet.tv%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Fdefault%2Fderailed.jpg&hash=8f0fafb3b2ec51a4cae86c5b29986dc5dd8764d8)Dont know what's worse, this one or the Necromantic wars thread. >_>
Honestly, though....it's for the better.
Necrophilia and suicidal orgasms aren't relevant to Lord of Shadows? Damn, guess I gotta play that game so I can get in on the right conversations, then.
Wtf is going on in that topic?! *runs off to go see*
Edit: Ahahahahahahahahahaha! Oh, if only that movie had been made in Spain instead of Germany; it would have been the best thing since sliced bread. Aren't I right, Skycaptain Steampunk?
Aren't you having fun with this Gaawa-senpai? :rollseyes: ;)
Lords of the rings is best trilogy in the history 2000 year and 2010, the decade its. But lords of shadows is the original, best of the castlevania, of the decade, of the playstation 3, cant be see why is they people comparing the two, they are the excelent and diferent thing the two, one from masters of the games one from masters of the movies. They are the both a fantasy epica.I never considered CV to be a proper vehicle for "fantasy epic". Elder Scrolls, Dragon Age, The Witcher, Ultima, WoW, perhaps. Hell, even the A Realm Reborn trailers of Final Fantasy XIV are ripe with good "fantasy epic" feel. CV? Not really. They've always been different types of games IMO, invoking a different spirit of adventure.
But lords of shadows is the original, best of the castlevania, of the decade, of the playstation 3
I love (actually, I don't) how none of his posts are worth it (they can't even be called oppinions at all), and he's still on the forums and not banned.
yea, I would actually feel kinds sorry for him if I believed he loved LOS as much as he sayes around here.
Its one thing to like a game very much, its another to praise it as the most perfect thing ever. :'(
The guy has said nothing but he thinks LOS series is perfect in every conceivable way...
Did we even consider the fact he could be a kid? Language barriers aside, the super biased fanboyism and praise is almost the like which you'd find from children. I'm not trying to take a stab at the guy, just wondering if that could be the case. I've seen kids praise the Twilight series like it's the most flawless and amazing thing ever to come out in the history of mankind. When you get on in age, those types of delusions become a thing of the past(with most able-minded people, mind you). A part of maturity is to accept that nothing's perfect, and there is even BEAUTY in imperfection.
For whatever reason I find the opposite is true. Kids usually seem to be more open to change, and whatever goes than the older players.Young kids, unadulterated ones, are usually fresh/green enough to view the world with a completely open mind simply because they are trying to get in touch with the world and can unbiasly give many different things a chance and view them without any expectations(or emotional baggage). It's like the study, without any reservations like racist grown-ups, young children of different races will play together and see each other as simple "children". The ills of society is what shapes them into judgemental bigots. Same can be said regarding games and cartoons. A lot of little kids are content just as much with anything you put in front of them just as much as whatever is the "newer", more modern thing. I've seen modern kids get a kick out of playing NES and SNES games, as well as get a kick out of old Tom & Jerry or Bugs Bunny cartoons. IMO, that sort of unbiased view of the world is golden. Sometimes people, despite being older, tend to become set in their ways, for good and for bad.
When I was a kid I thought Super Mario Bros 2 was awesome, even though it had little connection to the first, and played different. I still hold that SMB2 is an awesome game, and a worthy Mario addition. But if I was me today, and I saw such a thing released, would I feel the same? I'm not sure I would be quite as welcoming and open about it.
Some of it was perhaps, you played what you got since you didn't have so many games purchased back then. At least, I didn't, nor did my friends. These days however, I find myself sticking with a certain genre set of games primarily, and very rarely going outside those bounds with the exception for when I am studying them.
If Steampunk is a child I apologize. That would make sense. Although the kids I know would at least give it a rest and realize that people have different opinions.
What I think this boils down to is more nationalism and less Lords of Shadow. Had the game been made in, say, UK, we wouldn't have this thread at all. (And LoS is so generic it could've been made pretty much anywhere in the world). I'm sure he loves Lords of Shadow a lot, but there's something else here too.
His actions reminds me of those Twihards, but at least he is not at the worst Twihard level that I've seen.
but...but... drama!
Those people in Forks were an odd bunch to begin with, anyway...
[spoken in the voice of one from Everett,WA]
How about stoping this discussion?
Oh, and don't forget that one hentai doujin.
Ditto.That makes me curious...
That makes me curious...
Why? There plenty Castlevania hentai dougin's and not only.............
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Not excactly what i meant.........:P(click to show/hide)
I've come across some fanarts and a couple doujins online, but I've never seen one in person.
That's what I'm curious about. I thought that kind of material existed only digitally.
Nothing to be ashamed of, anyway... ;)
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Errr... Alucard X Juste?... What? Nothing! Nothing! ;) ;)
I would watch a Castlevania stuff video.
I think that he is talking about something more explicit.Well... that's even better (at least until some point).
I think that he is talking about something more explicit.
Video link please? heheheheheYeah! The audience is crawling for it!
my topic was for explication of why peoples dont like mercurysteam and they transform them in a topic of ayami koyima characters.
Do I +1 him cause he said hes leaving, or do I -1 for the fact that he just had to put up a spiteful post about it?