Topic: I want to know why is

[shelverton.]

Never in my life have I felt the urge to know WHY other people don't like the exact same game as I do. I loved Harmony of Dissonance and I remember a lot of people hating it. So what? It doesn't take away from my personal experience with that game. I don't think they're "wrong" for hating it, it's just their opinion. This topic is really interesting to me because I simply don't understand what drives people to even care about these things. Like a game? Great! Play it! Dislike it? Great! Find another game instead. It's easy as pie

[crisis]

I think it's because the OP is from Spain (as is MercurySteam, coincidently), and he believes since we reject/criticize LoS then that equates to us rejecting Spain's culture & creativity, which he takes offense to.

Air-tight logic.

[Skycaptain Steampunk]

i see....but i still can't understand the things they sayed, when i play old castlevanias lot years back i believe they are ok and then igarashis did these things they sayed you here all, to me that not feel like castlevania, so i don't play them any more, and wait, and cox enter and make lords of shadows and i think is excelent titles, and can't see why it is, the hate, why it is, they sayed music is not good, or the enemy of the games, i think they are best here comparing to old castlevanias, i don't know, but i can't talk of igarashi or the leader of the forum will say to me i am the rude, if i talk i can't say one good or i have to say a lie, the truth is i see cox games is the best in the history of castlevania, i want more people to see the way, and understand they so excelent because Spain have long tradition of horror, i enjoy that and other poeple don't see it.

[Mystic Myotis]

i see....but i still can't understand the things they sayed, when i play old castlevanias lot years back i believe they are ok, and then igarashis did these things they sayed you here all, to me that not feel like castlevania, so i don't play them any more, and wait, and cox enter and make lords of shadows and i think is excelent titles, and can't see why it is, the hate, why it is, they sayed music is not good, or the enemy of the games, i think they are best here comparing to old castlevanias, i don't know, but i can't talk of igarashi or the leader of the forum will say to me i am the rude, if i talk i can't say one good or i have to say a lie, the truth is i see cox games is the best in the history of castlevania, i want more people to see the way, and understand they so excelent because Spain have long tradition of horror, i enjoy that and other poeple don't see it.

I am going to use your own words to explain it so that maybe you will understand.

when i play old castlevanias years back i believe they are some of my favorite games, and then Cox did these things, to me that not feel like castlevania, so i don't play them any more, and wait, and i think old castlevanias is excelent titles, and can't see why it is, they sayed music is better in lords of shadow, or the enemy of the games, i think old games are best here comparing to lords of shadow. i can't talk of cox or Skycaptain Steampunk will say to me i hate Spain, the truth is i see cox games are weak games in the history of castlevania, and understand Spain's long tradition of horror does not change the quality of the lords of shadow games and that a game is not good or bad because of where it is made because i am not a nationalist, i enjoy older castlevanias more and Skycaptain Steampunk don't see it.

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In other words:

* People like different things.  Shocking, I know.

* Disliking something made in Spain does not mean that you hate Spain.  No one here thinks that you hate Japan because you do not like IGA Castlevanias, so why would you you accuse people here of such a thing?  That's really insulting.

Japan ALSO has a long tradition of horror; many good horror books, movies, and games have come out of Japan, and the same thing could be said about Spain and other countries.  That does not mean that every horror-like game or movie or book that comes from Japan and Spain is good and that people who don't like a game or movie or book that comes from one of those countries are bigoted nationalists who can't be understood.

[Skycaptain Steampunk]

mis disculpas por escribir en español, es solo que queria aclarar algo, y es que si alguien puede entender lo que estoy diciendo en este parrafo seria muy importante para mi estadia en este foro, y es que el lider del foro me ha pedido que hable en un ingles decente, y pues que no se me da el ingles, y ya, lo intento lo mejor que puedo, pero no es facil, incluso leer es mas facil que intentar escribir yo mismo, pero que no soy tonto, se me puede responder en ingles comun que entendere la mayoria del sentido.
ahora intentare traducir lo que escribi.

my sorry for writing in spanish, its that i want to aclarate some thing, and if is some one can understand the thing i say here it is very important for me in the forum, and its the leader ask me to write in the decent english, its that i cant to the english, that, i try to the best almost read is more easy what write, its i am not stupid, poeple they can ansewr me in the decent english and i understand the mayority of the sense.

[Skycaptain Steampunk]

and the thing i sayed about spanish horror tradition is because i sawed movies and always i think this is excelent and feel castlevania, the castlevanias must be this, and then enter cox and make exactly this, and this is why, this i believe the best castlevanias are make by mercurysteam, because they are like i think they need be, spanish horror is the best clima for a movie, for a game, and for anything, today i look at the old castlevanias, they are ok many of the games, but cant comparing to mercurysteam games.

[shelverton.]

and the thing i sayed about spanish horror tradition is because i sawed movies and always i think this is excelent and feel castlevania, the castlevanias must be this, and then enter cox and make exactly this, and this is why, this i believe the best castlevanias are make by mercurysteam, because they are like i think they need be, spanish horror is the best clima for a movie, for a game, and for anything, today i look at the old castlevanias, they are ok many of the games, but cant comparing to mercurysteam games.

I think Lords of Shadow feels more like an american game, not a spanish game. So I don't really understand what you mean. I love spanish horror movies! But I don't think Lords of Shadow feels especially spanish. Or especially horrific either, for that matter. And Dave Cox is not even from Spain.

But it's ok to love Lords of Shadow, you don't have to defend your opinion. But you've already said that you prefer Lords of Shadow over the older Castlevanias. Heck. you even made it very clear that you hate most of the franchise! That is proof enough for me that maybe you're not even that much of a Castlevania fan to begin with? You admit that Lords of Shadow is different from the older games. And that is basically the answer to your question: People dislike Lords of Shadow because they feel it's not a Castlevania game. You would have to be a fan of the series to see this.

However, there are still fans of the old series who actually like Lords of Shadow. But I've never heard any LoS fan say that it's a better game than the old classics. That's a new one!

Also, trash talking IGA had been done so many times before. It doesn't add anything to the discussion, especially not since he's not even making Castlevania games anymore.

[crisis]

Also, trash talking IGA had been done so many times before. It doesn't add anything to the discussion, especially not since he's not even making Castlevania games anymore.

IGA's secretly working on the long-awaited "Alucardvania" that was first revealed in 2008. This is common knowledge, and it's going to be awesomesauce.

[shelverton.]

IGA's secretly working on the long-awaited "Alucardvania" that was first revealed in 2008. This is common knowledge, and it's going to be awesomesauce.

It shall be released on the very same day as Final Fantasy Versus XIII and The Last Guardian, for the Playstation 7. CAN'T WAIT.

[Skycaptain Steampunk]

no but you not see the point i sayed, the thing is spanish horror movies have that of feel that cant be sayed in a words, its some thing you feel, the same of lords of shadows. i was castlevanias old games fan and lots other games too, i feel when i am a kid that this old castlevanias have a way, but enter igarashi and change it, so i am not a fan and don't play them any more, but when enter cox he continuate the way of the old games, and is best of all castlevanias, because tecnology now make the graphic and the music of all the best, the old games is excelent for the year of the out come, but now they look old, because its old games, lords of shadows is the idea of old castlevanias with the tecnology of today, is the motive is the best, and mirror of fate is a continue of the equal idea, mejorating the game boy advance and nintendo ds gemes, because i dont see that they people call metroidvania as the castlevania feel, but lords of shadows and mirror of fate and lords of shadows 2 and future games of cox and of mercurysteam, yes it is.

[thernz]

speaking of horror movies, castlevania in 3D would be great if it was like an argento giallo. italian horror in general had strangely idiosyncratic cinematography and colors that were actually good.

[Lelygax]

We understand that you like horror spanish movies and that you think that Cox does the better games and best Castlevania.

So please understand that some people here doesnt share the same vision as you and maybe will never change. We respect your opinion, please respect our opinion too. You seem to be a good and kind guy, doesnt, try to understand that here we give our opinions without trying to shove them in someone, as if it is a fact. That can be a fact to you, because you love these games, but isnt a fact for people that dislike it or think that older CV are better.

Im trying to give a advice to you, dont take it badly, Im not trying to hurt your feeling or saying that your arguments are invalid.

[Neobelmont]

IGA's secretly working on the long-awaited "Alucardvania" that was first revealed in 2008. This is common knowledge, and it's going to be awesomesauce.

Only if they learned from their past mistakes if not..... 

[Lelygax]

Yeah they learned, in this game you will need to grind even more, because you will need more 50 levels to beat each boss. Also to enter the bosses room you will need to find a magic seal, that is randomly dropped by a random enemy, that changes every time you begin a new game and have 0.01% chance of dropping.

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To see the best ending you need to collect all 10 Belmont's blood flasks, so you can acces a secret area and fight Dracula's True Form:

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a wheelchair

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Also after you beat the game and kill more than 50k fleaman you can play the hidden "fleaman mode", you can only jump and dive kick in this mode and when you reach the ending the game only says "Why you finished this mode? lol" and the staff roll begins.

[thernz]

that fleaman mode is pretty much the axe armor mode in portrait of ruin