Topic: I want to know why is

[Lelygax]

So you get my joke. xD

[Mystic Myotis]

my sorry for writing in spanish, its that i want to aclarate some thing, and if is some one can understand the thing i say here it is very important for me in the forum, and its the leader ask me to write in the decent english, its that i cant to the english, that, i try to the best almost read is more easy what write, its i am not stupid, poeple they can ansewr me in the decent english and i understand the mayority of the sense.

English is a stupid language.  For what it's worth I was not mocking your English.

What I want to know is whether or not you understood what I meant.

and the thing i sayed about spanish horror tradition is because i sawed movies and always i think this is excelent and feel castlevania, the castlevanias must be this

Other people feel differently.  I grew up with the old-school Castlevania and when I think of what Castlevania 'should' be, those games are what I think of.  I don't look at Van Helsing and go "That's what Castlevania MUST be!"  The only thing Castlevania 'must' be is Castlevania, not a Spanish/American/whatever horror movie made into a video game.  If someone wants a game like Lords of Shadow, that is fine, but don't expect anyone else to like that it's pushed as a Castlevania game.

but when enter cox he continuate the way of the old games,

The Lords of Shadow games are NOT like the classicvanias no matter how many times Cox tries to say that they are.  Not in the look, not in the music, not in the story, not in the enemies, not in the level design, not in the humor, not in the overall atmosphere/presentation, JUST NO.

and is best of all castlevanias, because tecnology now make the graphic and the music of all the best, the old games is excelent for the year of the out come, but now they look old, because its old games, lords of shadows is the idea of old castlevanias with the tecnology of today,

Good graphics do not make a game good.  Aged graphics do not make a game bad.  Graphics are like icing on the cake; it's nice to get a cake with pretty icing but what matters is the taste.

Even most Lords of Shadow fans would disagree with you about the music.  It's unremarkable even by movie soundtrack standards and it certainly doesn't live up to the bold and unique Castlevania music standards.  Go listen to the soundtrack of Lament of Innocence, or Super Castlevania IV, or any other number of games.  Castlevania's very atmosphere was pushed aside when Lords of Shadow was made and the music is one of the greatest offenders of this.  It's not bad music but it sure isn't Castlevania and I wouldn't waste my time listening to it when I could listen to far better movie and video game soundtracks.

is the motive is the best,

Isn't more or less every character in Lords of Shadow motivated by either revenge, lust for power, or love?  I don't see anything special about any of that considering the old games had all of that and much more.

because i dont see that they people call metroidvania as the castlevania feel, but lords of shadows and mirror of fate and lords of shadows 2 and future games of cox and of mercurysteam, yes it is.

I'm happy for you that you feel that way, but I sure don't.

[justin312]

Skycaptain... I do like the Lords of Shadow games, but one of the things I'm not crazy about is the overabundance of Spanish horror movie influence and other movies that to me feel out of place in a Castlevania.  They've made no secret that a big influence was Pan's Labyrinth, and you can see that influence in many of the monsters and settings (not to mention the character named Pan). Another dark fantasy movie they seem to have taken inspiration from is Dark Crystal from the 1980's (the Pan character looks very similar to the mystics from Dark Crystal, and there are even "crystal shard" sub weapons). Now don't get me wrong, these are fine movies, they just don't really feel like what the series used to be about. A character like Pan living in a giant Deku tree just doesn't feel like something you'd find in the spooky Transylvania countryside of Simon's Quest.  When I think of Frankenstein, I certainly don't imagine a mechanical scorpion. If they had just made him actually look like Frankenstein and stuck a pair of chainsaws in his hands, I'm sure fans would have appreciated it. Instead they went with their own Spanish horror flick vision and name-dropped.

I would prefer they take at least some inspiration from classic Universal horror movies or Harryhausen creatures from fantasy/mythology flicks like in the original games, rather than take all their inspiration from Pan's Labyrinth and Lord of the Rings.

[crisis]

I remember when Cox admittedly described Lords of Shadow as a "dark fairy tale"

[Lelygax]

I remember when Cox admittedly said that Castlevania and Akumajo Dracula isnt the same thing.

[crisis]

I remember when Cox blocked Nagumo on Twitter when she called him a liar for saying Trevor doesn't turn into Alucard

[Rugal]

I can't believe nobody has mentioned the horrible boss battles. Ice Titan has got to be one of the worst bosses I've ever encountered in a game.

[Flame]

I can't believe nobody has mentioned the horrible boss battles. Ice Titan has got to be one of the worst bosses I've ever encountered in a game.

Specifically just the Ice Titan?

Not in the look, not in the music, not in the story, not in the enemies, not in the level design, not in the humor, not in the overall atmosphere/presentation, JUST NO.

I disagree.

[Neobelmont]

I remember when Cox admittedly said that Castlevania and Akumajo Dracula isnt the same thing.

I remember when Cox said forget everything you know about castlevania.

[jestercolony]

How the hell can we forget everything about Castlevania when we've played it for so many years? Most of us grew up with the series. O.o that just makes me wanna shed tears to feed to some scene kid.

[Sindra]

I would implore our Spanish-speaking brethren to help us get the point across to Steampunk, in an effort to salvage some kind communication and not write him off as a ignorant troll repeating himself. (just to say "I tried" before losing my patience and shifting my verbal tactics to those of a much harsher color)

Jorge. Get yer ass over here.

[Neobelmont]

I would implore our Spanish-speaking brethren to help us get the point across to Steampunk, in an effort to salvage some kind communication and not write him off as a ignorant troll repeating himself.

Jorge. Get yer ass over here.

oh you should have seen the debut Sindra.

edit my Spanish is not very fluent(I was able to ask a sir at the park if I could draw him fishing for my drawing class awhile ago) sometimes I get flashbacks from my Spanish classes in high school 

[TheouAegis]

Cox no es ni japonés o estadounidense. Por esa razón, sus juegos de Castlevania no son Castlevania. Por su propia admisión, carece de la comprensión de lo que hace un juego de Castlevania un juego de Castlevania. Los programadores de un país que no es los EE.UU. imbuido su juego con los tropos de terror americanas. Cox no hizo tal cosa. Él es un productor de vídeo buen juego, pero se deshonró a la comunidad Castlevania. El Señor de las Sombras serie podrían ser buenos juegos, pero no son material de Castlevania.

Perdonen mi españolas - No me importa lo suficiente como para corregir Google.

[Ahasverus]

Cox no es ni japonés o estadounidense. Por esa razón, sus juegos de Castlevania no son Castlevania. Por su propia admisión, carece de la comprensión de lo que hace un juego de Castlevania un juego de Castlevania. Los programadores de un país que no es los EE.UU. imbuido su juego con los tropos de terror americanas. Cox no hizo tal cosa. Él es un productor de vídeo buen juego, pero se deshonró a la comunidad Castlevania. El Señor de las Sombras serie podrían ser buenos juegos, pero no son material de Castlevania.

Perdonen mi españolas - No me importa lo suficiente como para corregir Google.

Estás tan tan tan equivocado.

No es que alguien fuera de japón no "sepa" hacer un ben Castlevania, la serie de por sí ya tiene una influencia occidental grande, y es casi que hecha para el público de occidente (como es bien sabido, no vende muy bien en Japón). Cox y su equipo tomaron una estética y una idea específica pero eso no tiene nada qué ver con que otro equipo occidental tenga una idea similar O MEJOR que el Akumajou Dracula original. LoS no es una deshonra, sino una dirección diferente, tal vez muy diferente para algunos (aunque en mi opinión si el juego fuera el mismo con dibujos de Ayami kojima y música - ultra repetitiva - de Yamane todo el mundo estuviera fapeándose con él, noto que el rencor es 90% estético). Igual, si disfrutas la nueva serie no hay nada malo contigo, los fans de Megaman tienen algo así como 6, ahora los de Castlevania tenemos 2 interpretaciones, y personalment eespero que sean muchas muchas más. Así como Batman.

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anyone up for a spanish dungeon lol

[Kingshango]

I honestly don't know what going on anymore. This thread is way all over the place that I don't even know how to respond.

Alright I'll give it a shot:

Op, two words: Rosetta Stone.

Everything else: ehhhhhhhhh.......Guaccamelee is pretty fucking rad, I think those developers should take on the next 2D Castlevania.