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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2008, 04:13:00 PM »
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True, he did say that...
...however, we don't know how his feelings could have been 400-500 years prior.

He seems a lot more brash in CV3 than he does in Symphony, even though he has a few lines of text in that.

It's funny how you guys retroactively give characters personalities they did not possess originally.  The human mind is a strange thing.  As I recall, I did not see Alucard feeling all that bad about himself until the ending of CVIII, where he acknowledges that he's killed his own father.  Prior to that he was all "I am glad to hear it.  Let's get him.  I am Alucard", etc.  It seems he was not as worried about his bloodline at that point.

I mean, the Alucard of CVIII was badass (even his instruction manual artwork)... I think he could've easily had a number of women at his disposal before he got into the whole "I'm a good guy" thing.
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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2008, 04:19:51 PM »
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I don't really like it. I found the plot to be not only unoriginal (which isn't such a bad thing in and of itself) but also uninspired. n_n

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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2008, 11:15:45 AM »
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Yes, Legends story was cliche, but so are most CV games.  How many times does Dracula kidnap someone?  Hell, one of the other threads basically came to the conclusion as to the plot of OoS.  We haven't even seen that much of the game and we have a pretty good idea of what's going to happen.  Most CV game plots are unoriginal, or at least uninspired.  Legends is really no different.

Here's the thing with "holy bloodlines" and "holy weapons".  There are very few established rules in the CV universe.  So most understandings of how things work is very open to interpretation. 

I don't think the Belmonts are a holy bloodline.  They are corrupted too easily.  Really, how do you corrupt the power of God?  If the Belmonts truly had the blessing or power of God to vanquish evil, then why are they so susceptible to it?  I think they are more pious than anything.  The only reason Leon had children was so he could continue his vendetta against Mathias.  Every generation was raised with the idea, and bias, that they are doing God's work.  If anything, the title of holy bloodline was probably self imposed.

As for holy weapons: I don't think the Vampire Killer is either.  It's a weapon that was created with the tainted soul of a murdered innocent.  Doesn't sound very God inspired to me.  It was made through alchemy also.  As stated earlier alchemy is "experiments with god's creation of the world".  God, in theory, is perfect.  A perfect being creates perfect things, so the world must also be perfect.  But if you were to change or experiment on perfection in any way the only result is imperfection.  Look at Mathias.  His whole plan is to defy God by living forever, and he was an alchemist.  Also, look at all the other wonderful things alchemy is used for.  The Vampire Killer, which requires the ultimate sacrifice to even exist.  The ebony and crimson stones which only allow evil to prosper.  Devilforgemasters, or monster maker 2.0, I think there's a pretty valid claim by the Church that alchemy is blasphemous practice.

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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2008, 11:36:45 AM »
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I don't think the Belmonts are a holy bloodline.

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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2008, 08:43:02 PM »
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Vampires are unholy and weak against holy attacks and icons.

Therefore something that kills them, generally, is holy...

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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2008, 04:02:31 AM »
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Using revelations that came about AFTER Legends is pointless in refuting it. There are things like Sonia having powers 'just cuz'.
Also I don't understand why people jump to the Alucard is the father conclusion. Sonia is a 'young girl' at the time of the story, she beats Alucard to prove her strength and he says "OW! Ok you're strong enough to fight Dracula so I'm gonna go back to sleep. Laters. We'll never meet again."
Sonia, unlike Maria, does not chace after him. She says "LOL K BAI" and keeps on truck'n. There is no reason to think they ever met again.

Then when you beat the game it says that when Sonia grows up she becomes a mom. ZOMG ALUCARD'S THE DAD!!1
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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2008, 04:11:53 AM »
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that is a good counterargument against the sonia x alucard, but still, if lisa wasn't even an adult during legends, alucard shouldn't be even born, much less adult, especially since he's a teenager in cv3.

so yeah

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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2008, 05:17:11 AM »
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I hate the whole I'll test your skills thing with Alucard... why not just help her in the battle >.>

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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2008, 03:57:19 PM »
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I hate the whole I'll test your skills thing with Alucard... why not just help her in the battle >.>
While I'm probably wrong, he does it most likely because he knows that he is not strong enough alone to defeat his father and tests people to see if they can hold their own against him if not defeat him so that he knows whether or not they have a chance to defeat Dracula.
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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2008, 04:09:47 PM »
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I just...don't like it.

I know having a mean streak to the Belmonts sounds good for some, but I think it kind of cheapens what they stand for. That, and I don't like Sonia. But that's just me. ;_;
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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2008, 09:14:58 PM »
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I agree. HORRIBLE shipping. I also don't like the "test your skills" thing, because wouldn't he be hurting/weakening any potential Dracula-defeaters? [Vocabulary limited atm. ;D ]

I don't like the story. At all.

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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2008, 10:51:59 PM »
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The trouble with Legends is it the plotline comes across as a bad CV fanfic with some 14-year-old girl's self-insert character in the lead role, complete with implausible doomed romance.

 That and Sonia's grandfather teaching her to use a whip and dressing her as a hooker is all kinds of wrong.

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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2008, 05:20:53 AM »
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I hate the whole I'll test your skills thing with Alucard... why not just help her in the battle >.>

Doesn't he do that in CV3?  "I'm surprised you beat me.  I've been waiting for you!"
And Maria does it to him in SotN (Saturn NitM, DXC).
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Re: What is the general opinion of Legends' story?
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2008, 05:28:33 AM »
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That doesn't make it any less likeable. I never understood why they do that. So impractical..

That's definitely not the only flaw (or unlikeable thing) in Legends' plot, though. ..Horrible shipping.

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