Topic: Dracula is Pathetic **spoilers**

[darkwzrd4]

In all the videogames I've played, Dracula has to be one of the most pathetic.

[Profbeanburrito]

Have you ever read Dracula? It's about Love and loss. So blame Bram Stoker. As or him coming back all the time, at least he has a reason, unlike Dr. Wily!
Anyways, I guess thats an alright point, but he's still badass.

Whats so pathetic about Sephiroth? he's awesome


Also, how is this a spoiler??

[crisis]

The events of Count Dracula's ascension could've been dramatized a lot better and more clearer, but I wouldn't go as far to say he was pathetic.. there's still a lot we don't know about him, particularly his motives during the 12th-14th centuries.

Sephiroth wields his masamune gracefully.

[darkwzrd4]

Whats so pathetic about Sephiroth? he's awesome

He tried to destroy the world just because he found out he was created through experiments instead of being conceived and born the natural way.  Come on, that's pathetic!  Even if the circumstances of by birth were the same, I wouldn't try to destroy the world. Instead, I would use my superior strength and special abilities to help people.

[justin312]

In Reply To #2

Actually, I have read Dracula a few times, and I'm pretty sure there was nothing in Bram Stoker's original book about a dead wife, and cursing God etc.  I think that was added to the Francis Ford Coppola movie so they could make Dracula a sympathetic character.  In the book, you never really find out why/how he became a vampire, and there was no romantic subplot between him and Mina.

But to answer the OP, I think in the early days of the CV series Dracula was a badass villain.  I think Dracula has become pathetic over the years as the story has become more convoluted, just because of repetition due to the number of games that are being tied in, and also the muddying of the story.  Dracula's existence has been changed to basically "Get resurrected, get defeated immediately by a Belmont, Alucard or some other vampire hunters, go back to the void until the next time he is resurrected and quickly defeated."  I think if they went back to Dracula as an evil villain pulling the strings, instead of the hapless villain who just seems to wake up for his obligatory fight with the latest Belmont, he would seem a lot less pathetic.

[darkwzrd4]

The Dracula I'm talking about is the one from the castlevania series not Bram Stoker's book.

[mistressalucard]

He tried to destroy the world just because he found out he was created through experiments instead of being conceived and born the natural way.

[fallenangel86]

he woulda kept all the males in his life if he wasn't being a prick. ...great i just made him sound gayer than metroidvanias make him look...

[uzo]

In Reply To #4

Incorrect. Sephiroth did not try to destroy the world cause he wasn't made naturally.

Sephiroth was taking up the culture of the beings that he was partially made from. He would subdue the planet and use it as his vessel to other worlds, to travel the stars. He assumed his birth right and acted on it.

[Shinobi]

Dracula is foolish to think that his wife Elisabetha will agree his revenge against God for taking Elisabetha's life away.

[justin312]

I think the whole Elisabetha storyline from Lament was a big factor in making him more "pathetic".

Take what little story we have from Dracula's Curse.

[Blue Cheese]

In Reply To #5

You'll notice that TONS of people around here will try to use that damn movie as a literary reference. It's annoying as hell.   

[adam]

It's only because that movie is so great, the way it portrays Dracula is very widely accepted because it makes him more than just some "bad guy." He has a human side to him thats vulnerable and understandable. (I don't know who wrote that movie, but I like what he did with Dracula.)

Plus, that movie also so flawless in terms of soundtrack, cinematography, mood and so on. We just have to forget that Reeves and Winona are in it!

Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula is my favorite telling of the story.

[Long John Silver]

Now in Lament, we find out he is doing these things not because of some evil desire for power, but rather because he is angry at God because his wife died.

while the reason for him to go batshit is kinda silly (2 wives died), it's still a lot better than the retarded cliche "i'm evil just because, for the lulz" thing.

also elisabetha's death was only responsible for him becoming immortal. he didn't start attacking humans until in 1470 they went and killed his second wife for no apparent reason. poor dude just wanted revenge and took it too far.

[justin312]

RE: posts #13 and #14

That's what I mean though.