Topic: Would you buy a Castlevania "box set"?

[paletteswapmonster]

As far as Judgement, I think you almost have to be a Castlevania fan to like it, or to excuse it even. At least it doesn't appeal to hardcore fighting gamers. I really think it was a bad move as it tarnishes the image of the series. I played it and enjoyed it for about five minutes, but it is of pretty low quality IMO.

You're exaggerating. I'm a hardcore fighting gamer and I like it. You also don't need to be a fan of the series to "even excuse it". It also doesn't do anything to the image of the series. The fact that people take a simple spin-off so seriously is very annoying.

[Saroor]

It is the first nex-gen Castlevania title on a major console, it does tarnish the image and should be taken seriously. Perhaps a simple spin-off, but it's still a full-price title. I am hardcore fighting fan also, and I am pretty sure the game will never be part of any major tournament. There are a ton of valid criticisms, all of which add up to a pretty poor game. I am sorry if that annoys you, and good for you if you dig it, but it just doesn't work as a high quality fighting game.

But in any case, I think I sort of drove the thread off topic. I would buy a compilation, but I would rather have CV3 on wii vc atm.

[paletteswapmonster]

In Reply To #33

It's not meant to be a high quality fighting game. And again, there's no reason to take it seriously. Sure it may be the first and probably only CV on a current-gen(not next-gen) console, but it's simply a spin-off that IGA didn't even want to make. He's also never done something like this before, so it's excusable if only for that.

[Saroor]

Perhaps not meant as a "real" fighting game, but still not even good as a Dead or Alive type "general population" fighting game. It just seems to me to be a money gimmick. Like you said, if Iga did not want tot make it, and did not know how to make it, then Konami was just drilling for dollars, and to me that hurts the image of the series. I dunno, it's like an insult. I take it too personally I guess.

[Profbeanburrito]

HoD is no where near being the worst move. What's with the hate for that game? It's part of the insane standards most people here have. "HoD sucks 'cause it's easy HURR HURR HURR!"

Well, it's not that I think HoD is too easy.

I just don't care for the plot, the characters or really anything else in the game.

I hate the sprites, they look awful. That glow around Juste is annoying. The music in that game is nothing to remember. I don't like the split castle thing being used again, so soon.

[paletteswapmonster]

I hate the sprites, they look awful. That glow around Juste is annoying. The music in that game is nothing to remember. I don't like the split castle thing being used again, so soon.  It gets to be a pain in the ass, and I just don't like the design of the castle itself, so map completion is more of a hassle than anything else.

The sprites are the best out of the GBA games. Sure the character sprites may be awful, but the enemies and areas are gorgeous. The glow around Juste is so you can have a better time seeing him rather than having to squint nearly all the time. The music is some of the best composed in the series. It's very annoying when people call music bad simply because it isn't extremely catchy. The split castle isn't reused in the game. Castle A and Castle B work like the light and dark worlds in Alttp. Also, map completion should be the least of your worries in any game. In fact, you shouldn't even care about it.

You're just another one of those people who aren't open-minded enough to actually understand the game.

So what would you say is the worst move then?

CoD and PoR.

[Saroor]

You really think CoD is worse than Judgment? I guess I can kind of see that it was supposed to be a big title in the series, but I would argue that the quality of the game is still slightly better than Judgment.

I think the sprites in Harmony worked well for the original gameboy, probably a reaction to complaints about CotM being too dark.
PoR was cool, after you beat it and played on Richter mode.

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You're just another one of those people who aren't open-minded enough to actually understand the game.

His or her not liking HoD has nothing to do with him being open minded. Perhaps you are not open minded enough to objectively evaluate other people's criticisms of the game.

[paletteswapmonster]

You really think CoD is worse than Judgment? I guess I can kind of see that it was supposed to be a big title in the series, but I would argue that the quality of the game is still slightly better than Judgment.

lolwut.

PoR was cool, after you beat it and played on Richter mode.

Nahhhhh.

His or her not liking HoD has nothing to do with him being open minded. Perhaps you are not open minded enough to objectively evaluate other people's criticisms of the game.

Uhhhhh....wrong. I can clearly tell that s/he isn't open-minded enough due to the reasoning.

[The Last Belmont]

CoD and PoR.

Why Cod?, iga went back to castlevanias roots for that one. All the explorable environments upgrades, innocent devils. Hidden areas especially that hidden satanic tower. All culminating towards the final raid on the castle of dracula and the lord of darkness destruction.

[paletteswapmonster]

Why Cod?, iga went back to castlevanias roots for that one. All the explorable environments upgrades, innocent devils. Hidden areas especially that hidden satanic tower. All culminating towards the final raid on the castle of dracula and the lord of darkness destruction.  I think that one is actually one of the best castlevania games since SOTN was released. Sure it has it's flaws like Richter being impaled not making sense and it should have shown him in the ending as well, but it was a fun romp and the gameplay is spot on. I honestly don't understand all the hate towards this one. LOI was way worse of a game than COD.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. What makes CoD good and so much better than LoI? CoD was crap. Nothing could cover up for its crap enemies, UBER COPY/PASTE OLOLOL, and very slow movement. At least LoI makes up for having better level design and much, much, much better combat. Leon also doesn't run at the speed of a turtle with weights.

EDIT: I can't believe I ignored this sentence.

iga went back to castlevanias roots for that one.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

[Profbeanburrito]

You're just another one of those people who aren't open-minded enough to actually understand the game.
CoD and PoR.

Wait a damn second! You're calling me close minded because I don't agree with what you think!? I very very rarely bitch about any of the games in the series, usually I'm one of the people to bitch about the people who complain too much about the flaws in these games. I know the series isn't perfect, but I am always acceptable of the games and satisfied with the end results.
Because I disagree with your oopinion does not make me close minded. I could say the very same thing about how you feel about CoD and PoR, but I'm not an trolling dick. You think this because I feel a game you like is the weakest in the series? Every single topic here you find some way to make it sound like you're right and everyone else is wrong because they disagree with you. Get off your damn high horse.

[paletteswapmonster]

Wait a damn second! You're calling me close minded because I don't agree with what you think!?

When did I say that? It wasn't even implied in the slightest.

[semianonymous]

As far as Judgement, I think you almost have to be a Castlevania fan to like it, or to excuse it even. At least it doesn't appeal to hardcore fighting gamers. I really think it was a bad move as it tarnishes the image of the series. I played it and enjoyed it for about five minutes, but it is of pretty low quality IMO.

A spinoff fighter, that is completely non-canon (save for possibly Aeon) has tarnished the series image.
wut?
For starters, it isn't all that bad. Practically everyone I know who went in with horrible expectations said that it way exceeded their expectations. Some reviewers are hailing it, others are smashing it (in frankly embarassing reviews, go read 1ups, its good for a laugh). Some reviewers, professional reviewers, are saying its gameplay mechanics are deeper than Brawls, but the game itself needs work. I agree.
The game has all the potential for a fantastic fighter. The mechanics are there, the stages show potential, but all thats missing is time. As usual, the game was rushed, and its obvious when you play through story and castle mode, and not even 8ing can make a deep fighter on a short schedule.
And it was never meant to be a hardcore title, if anything, it was built for casual fighting fans, its a great pick up and play game.

[Profbeanburrito]

I'd say Judgment was a good shot at making a CV fighting game. I think it could use some improvements but thats what sequels are for.

The only thing that really bothers me is some of the character designs, but I can ignore that this time around.

But the game is fun, engaging, and easy to pick up and play so in that respect I think it was successful.

I can see how it may not be for everyone, even fans of the series, but some of those reviews I can't understand at all, especially the EGM/1Up ones

[The Last Belmont]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. What makes CoD good and so much better than LoI? CoD was crap. Nothing could cover up for its crap enemies, UBER COPY/PASTE OLOLOL, and very slow movement. At least LoI makes up for having better level design and much, much, much better combat. Leon also doesn't run at the speed of a turtle with weights.

EDIT: I can't believe I ignored this sentence.

iga went back to castlevanias roots for that one.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

um, yeah just yeah, This is exactly the response I expected. Are you gonna give me a valid response or just keep stating that the game sucks just for the mere fact that other people say it does? The games feels like CV3 with all the outside environments, character interaction and buddy system. That's what I meant by that line that you seem to find funny for some reason. I will no longer respond to blatant fanboyism. If you think LOI is better explain, give me an intelligent well thought out opinion not yelling at me that I'm wrong and your right. That's no way to argue your point if you want to convince anybody of anything.