Topic: Who gets the whip?

[Alutwon]

Something I have often wondered is if there are 2 Belmont heirs which one gets the whip? Does the clan decide or the whip? For example in HoD the reason Maxim does his thing was because he wanted the whip, which means he has Belmont blood right? Is he Juste's cousin or what?

[Reinhart77]

You know, I'm not sure what's up with Maxim.  Since his last name isn't Belmont, he shouldn't really be a candidate for inheriting the whip.  Maybe that's part of the reason he feels frustrated? 

[darkwzrd4]

The way I believe it works is that all the males from all the branches of the clan get trained and the strongest is the one who receives the title of vampire hunter and is given the whip.

[Reinhart77]

Hey, it looks like Maria got the whip:

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Eternal_Knights_2_Maria_2.JPG

(from the Eternal Knights 2 game talked about on the other thread) 

ok, that's not the Vampire Killer nor a canon game by any stretch, but it looks like all the characters of the "Vampire Killer" class in that game get whips.

[Super Waffle]

Why is Maria's DXC redesign canon I don't even.

[Alutwon]

I really doubt it. He does say that but c'mon everyone wants that whip.

[gravekeeper]

Maxim was probably jealous of Juste the same way Hugh was jealous of Nathan.

[Profbeanburrito]

I would think the first born son of the family would get it. Trevor would pass it to his, and his son would pass it on to the next son, and so on. The Belmont's who possess the whip are probably of the direct bloodline of Leon.
I'm sure someone will probably say "What if they don't have a son, then what?" Well, there's no mention of how its really passed on, so I would assume if this is the case then they all have sons.

[Alutwon]

How the heck did the Morris clan get the whip and why so late? I mean the 1800's where lacking in vampire hunters.

[Successor The Cruel]

I don't think Maxim expected to get the Vampire Killer.  He just didn't like the idea of seeming inferior to Juste.  Nothing in the game points to him actually wanting or expecting the whip, he just wanted to be stronger than Juste.

[RichterB]

I was under the impression, canon or not, that the reason the Graves and Morris clans got the VK Whip was due to there being no male heir around/ready at a given time; therefore, the son of the most-related clan would get the honor. But really, there could/should be a story where a female Belmont has the honor of the VK Whip (IE: a retcon Sonja) and then starts her own line with a new name that later has to use the whip.

But, anyway, I thought that Castlevania has been trying to move beyond the whip with all the magic and sword use up front lately. Sad, because the whip has so much unused gameplay potential and is one of the things that makes Castlevania unique.

[Reinhart77]

Here's Maxim's words in the game

"Maxim: The day you inherited the title of Vampire Hunter...I felt as if a wall had been erected  between us...and for that reason, I set out on my expedition. I wanted to be better than you and relieve you of your fate."

I wonder if the "title" of Vampire Hunter doesn't have to follow the person who owns the whip?  The game Belmont's Revenge doesn't make a big deal about the whip.  It just says that Soleiyu was inheriting the title "Vampire Hunter", and it didn't say anything about him inheriting the whip.  But he had his own whip in the game (wouldn't it be cool if that was the origin of Nathan's Hunter Whip?).  It might be that he wouldn't officially inherit the whip itself until his father retired, which he wasn't planning on doing anytime soon.

[Nazrath]

I would think the first born son of the family would get it.

I thought that was a given? Look at the time period. I still think this was the reason behind Iga's removing of our favourite  lass.  :

I wonder if the "title" of Vampire Hunter doesn't have to follow the person who owns the whip?

I also assumed that the title was separate to the whip, whereby the whip was more a holy relic.

(wouldn't it be cool if that was the origin of Nathan's Hunter Whip?).

That is an interesting idea, actually.

[DragonSlayr81]

In Reply To #12

Well, from what we know how, the reason why the Morris clan(or Graves... say what you will) has the VK is NOT because the Belmonts lacked a male heir, but because "something happened regarding Richter where the Belmont family had to go into hiding and was not allowed to touch the VK until 1999".

[Ahasverus]

I wonder if the "title" of Vampire Hunter doesn't have to follow the person who owns the whip?  The game Belmont's Revenge doesn't make a big deal about the whip.  It just says that Soleiyu was inheriting the title "Vampire Hunter", and it didn't say anything about him inheriting the whip.  But he had his own whip in the game (wouldn't it be cool if that was the origin of Nathan's Hunter Whip?).  It might be that he wouldn't officially inherit the whip itself until his father retired, which he wasn't planning on doing anytime soon.

I think that the whip of Soleil was made by Dracula's forces, so, it's a dark whip (It must be because a holy whip can't be holded against a Belmont)and a Vampire hunter might be WHOEVER KILLS VAMPIRES. Remember the Radio Drama, Alexei and Cyril where Vampire hunters, and they didn't have any relationship with a Belmont (Except that Richter was somehow training them).

Am I wrong or in the HOD is said that Simon made a kind of tournament to choose who gets the whip?