Topic: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!(SPOILERS HERE, PLZ USE THE SPOILER TAG)

[Inccubus]

  Only just barely in the loosest sense.

[Lumas]

nd Mario Galaxy wasn't really a Mario game because it was so different from the original 2D Mario games.

Resident Evil 4, not a "real" RE. All RE must be designed to be able to be beaten within 3 hours, or it's not a real RE title.

Ninja Gaiden Black, not really an NG game.

Prince of Persia: Sand of Time, not really a PoP game, as the original PoP didn't have a time manipulation element.

And SotN, wtf is that crap? This is a Metroid game, not a Cv game. You might as well be fighting the Mother Brain at the end. Hell, the main character isn't even a Belmont. Who's dumb idea was that. How can you call SotN a Cv game when the main playable character doesn't even wield a whip?


Okay so here is your previous statement. You stated that RE4 is NOT a RE game because it was redesigned you also made a comparison to how games that are now 3D and how SotN Wasn't a Castlevania game because it was like metroid. So what I'm seeing you are trying to say that we are pissed over the game play am I not correct? because LoS' gameplay doesnt bother me in the least bit.

Now here is what bothers me you play a belmont who later becomes dracula you trudge through a medevil fantasy world for the most part and not a dark gloomy castle. You fight the main villain that really didnt have much to do with Castlevania other then making a deal with Dracula. All these things are outside the realm of Castlevania or what most of us believe what Castlevania should be.

So what I'm arguing here is that you are saying that we are pissed because it isn't a castlevania due to game play elements, no its because they changed wayyyyyy too much of the story and atmosphere.

But yes Castlevania Lords of Shadow is a Castlevania game my dear boy but it was a fantasy game and a stand alone title that got Castlevania name placed on it.

[C Belmont]

8)Only just barely in the loosest sense.

and the fact that we were told by Konami to forget everything we know about Castlevania reinforces this

[Inccubus]

My problem with the story, distaste for a Belmont becoming Dracul aside, is that it is convoluted all to hell in a very Metal Gear sort of way. It feels more like gothic-fantasy metal gear than it does a CV game. Especially with the bonus item being the stupid eye-patch-thingy. Fuck Kojima! /rant

[Claimh Solais]

My problem with the story, distaste for a Belmont becoming Dracul aside, is that it is convoluted all to hell in a very Metal Gear sort of way. It feels more like gothic-fantasy metal gear than it does a CV game. Especially with the bonus item being the stupid eye-patch-thingy. Fuck Kojima! /rant

Don't fuck Kojima! He'll lose his innocence! (and that eye-patch thingy is the Solid Eye and Bandanna from MGS4)

And come on, we all knew about Gabriel's ultimate destiny before it was even released.

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That he was in fact, Dracula.

It was already a source of fan speculation.

[crisis]

you trudge through a medevil fantasy world for the most part and not a dark gloomy castle.

To be fair, you trudge through a medieval fantasy world in CVII & SCIV, too, so I see no problem with that in LoS. It's just, it woulda been a lot cooler & beneficial if there were a lot less aztec/mayan ruins, or the entire Agharta area altogether.

[Inccubus]

No worries. I don't plan on anally raping him.
But, yeah, that thingy looks retarded and makes Gabriel look a whole damn lot like Snake.

[Claimh Solais]

No worries. I don't plan on anally raping him.
But, yeah, that thingy looks retarded and makes Gabriel look a whole damn lot like Snake.

I think that's the point. I constantly refer to him as Gabriel Snake or Solid Belmont. ^.^

[Lumas]

To be fair, you trudge through a medieval fantasy world in CVII & SCIV, too, so I see no problem with that in LoS. It's just, it woulda been a lot cooler & beneficial if there were a lot less aztec/mayan ruins, or the entire Agharta area altogether.

True enough thats kinda what I was getting at but I should have clarified that Crisis.

[Claimh Solais]

I pointed this out before, but I just feel like saying it again.

Remember when Cox said, "There will be no QTEs, as I feel it takes away from the fast-paced action."?

ಠ_ಠ

[Inccubus]

Yeah! I remember when that lying sack a shit said that!
At least that's what I would say if I didn't think 100% that it was Konami execs that forced those in against Cox's will.

[Flame]

Just because people dont seem to know this- but LoS was always intended as a Castlevania. It wasnt "retrofitted" the name, or decided on later.

 Its level of "differentness" however is a result of Konami not being able to make up their minds on it. It started a CV 1 remake. Then became an original Castlevania story. A reboot. Then Konami told them, keep making it, but drop the Cv name and name it simply by the subtitle, "Lords of Shadow", making it an original IP. when the initial teaser was released titling it as Lords of Shadow, konami would see what the reactions were and then make a final decision. Eventually they decided, "Ok, it can be Castlevania again".

This back and forth is IMO, is the reason why it feels like Castlevania in basic form and function, but at the same time, is COMPLETELY different from Castlevania.

Im most certain that had this idea of changing it to an Original IP hadnt come up, it would be more castlevania like in the eyes of fans. it might even have had that music Cox promised us.

[Claimh Solais]

Its level of "differentness" however is a result of Konami not being able to make up their minds on it. It started a CV 1 remake. Then became an original Castlevania story. A reboot. Then Konami told them, keep making it, but drop the Cv name and name it simply by the subtitle, "Lords of Shadow", making it an original IP. when the initial teaser was released titling it as Lords of Shadow, konami would see what the reactions were and then make a final decision. Eventually they decided, "Ok, it can be Castlevania again".

Everything about your point is correct except this. The "Castlevania" part was removed from the initial trailer to stop the game from upstaging the current release of CV at the time. That game being Judgment.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I'm a bit late to the last page or two or so, but if I see people talking about 'butthurt' and adding image macros for stupid arguments like what I saw, I'm gonna ban 'em without warning.

Just pointing that out to fellows like Vampire Killer.  Try and keep it clean, will ya?

[Vampire Killer]

No worries. I don't plan on anally raping him.
But, yeah, that thingy looks retarded and makes Gabriel look a whole damn lot like Snake.

Actually, if you only put the bandana on him, it gives him that old-school Cv barbarian look.


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