Topic: TGS 2008 Game?

[Reinhart77]

well said.  i don't blame them for taking the tact they have, but it is irritating.

[shelverton.]

They've been making at least one game a year for quite some time now, and I can only reasonably conclude that they've been making a profit or else they're very slow to analyze their sales and budgeting numbers.

I completely agree.
I honestly thought the DS games sold reasonably well?
My only guess is that Cox is comparing Castlevania to GTA or Halo. And yes, Castlevania is not up there, or even close. LoS may very well sell more copies than both PS2 Vanias combined, but I think the OMG MULTIBILLION DOLLAR train kinda left years ago. Castlevania could definitely need a boost, but I think Konami is kidding themselves when thinking they're gonna compete with GTA, Halo, GoW or even Devil May Cry. It ain't gonna happen.

[The Silverlord]

What strikes me more is that some people could have so little faith in a series they supposadly love.

I think some people are putting much of their faith in change, and in Lords of Shadows.

I really hope it is successful for Konami.  To my mind, there's absolutely no reason why Mercurysteam and Cox/Kojima cannot create a game which is as good (better even!) than the likes of DMC or God of War.  Did anyone play DMC4?  Enjoyable, but not terribly great to my mind.  And this seems to be the year for action adventure, I just hope Konami don't "miss the boat".  edit: I also think the worry is that, with all the competition, the game may get overlooked a bit, so it may be difficult to compete given those conditions  (i.e. people may have had had enough with the genre).

[The Silverlord]

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[shelverton.]

Did anyone play DMC4?  Enjoyable, but not terribly great to my mind.  And this seems to be the year for action adventure, I just hope Konami don't "miss the boat".  edit: I also think the worry is that, with all the competition, the game may get overlooked a bit, so it may be difficult to compete given those conditions  (i.e. people may have had had enough with the genre).

I actually liked DMC4 a lot. It may not be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I think it's really fun and stylish. Hardcore fans probably disagree, especially after DMC3 which I understand is considered the pinnacle of the series. I thought it was too hard and got kinda tired of dying all the time. Have no patience for such things these days. I'm too old.

Anyway, I don't think the genre is in any danger of being exhausted anytime soon. The biggest problem for LoS is probably that it's a Castlevania game. No matter how much Cox believes that this reboot will attract new players, the name Castlevania is wellknown, and most people will not even know that it's a reboot (unless it says so on the box). They'll think to themselves; "Castlevania? Nah, I didn't like that DS game.. what was the name again? Oh yes, Dawn of the Ecclesia Portait! I'm gonna pass on this".
People are ignorant like that.

[justin312]

I think we finally know the true fate of the TGS 2008 game:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/108/1082798p1.html

Here's a quote from the article: "Even more surprising is the previously undisclosed fact that there were in fact a number of prototypes in parallel development competing to continue development as the current generation's Castlevania resurgence. "Konami came to us and said 'Japan is going to pitch, America is going to pitch, and you guys are going to pitch. We'll pick one" to make the series exciting again, Cox told me."

If that is true, then the game that was shown at TGS 2008 had to be the prototype that the Japan team pitched and that Lords of Shadow was chosen over.  Does that mean Iga is completely done with the series?  Not necessarily, its very possible that he will continue making handheld games.  But does that mean that the game Iga was creating to be the current gen console version of Castlevania is dead?  Most likely.

[Ahasverus]

That's what we have been saying since long ago, and the reason I think it's completely scrapped.

Move over guys, there's nothing to see here (about the game, not your post ^^)

[jimmay17]

I really have to wonder at this point if anything beyond that rudimentary teaser was ever actually produced for SoTN2. It may have just been blue sky; Team Japan's last minute thrown-together pitch to come up with something, anything to secure the project. Perhaps we'll never know. . .

[Ahasverus]

Team Japan's last minute thrown-together pitch to come up with something, anything to secure the project. Perhaps we'll never know. . .

Wow, i never thought about it, yeah, it could be used like a way to put pressure on KOnami to aprove Iga's project, however it went wrong lol

[Kingshango]

So that's the end of the next gen Alucard game eh?

Oh well, I hope to see what IGA is planning to do next but we might end up waiting for a loooong time.

[DragonSlayr81]

Well, they did say IGA was STILL with Konami and was working on "something" last we heard. Even if it's not a console CV, it's something. So, who knows?

[crisis]

Next IGA game will be launch title for the 3DS, watch 

[shelverton.]

And to think that Konami would show this trailer at TGS and then change its mind... They must've been pretty anxious to show the teaser, and confident too! Even IGA didn't wanna show it that early, but Konami insisted. That must mean that Konami didn't really believe in LoS at first, so Mercury Steam worked their asses off in the following months - with great results, it seems.

I still wanna hear someone from Konami say "Yes, the TGS 2008 Teaser trailer with Alucard in it, was only a pitch. The game is cancelled and replaced by Lords of Shadow.". After that I can rest my mind.

EDIT: Just thinking.... isn't there be a chance that the japanese prototype or the american prototype for a current-gen Castlevania could be in development still? Maybe Konami, in fact, liked all three prototypes, or at least two of them? And that it will be released after LoS? I'm not saying it's the Alucardvania, but what about the american one? Maybe Konami just picked the european prototype as the Castlevania for 2010? (Christ, I'm still not accepting that this game is canceled...) 

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

i can personally think of a way were Konami can still release the next gen Alucard game while NOT being in competition with LOS.
and thats to make it a next gen 2.5d game to be released shorty AFTER LOS.
that way all parties could be happy in my opinion.
if you remember it was never said that the game would be a full blown 3d game so this could very well be likely

[Nagumo]

EDIT: Just thinking.... isn't there be a chance that the japanese prototype or the american prototype for a current-gen Castlevania could be in development still? Maybe Konami, in fact, liked all three prototypes, or at least two of them? And that it will be released after LoS? I'm not saying it's the Alucardvania, but what about the american one? Maybe Konami just picked the european prototype as the Castlevania for 2010? (Christ, I'm still not accepting that this game is canceled...)  

That would be heaven.

By the way, I'm pretty sure that some guy at Konami said the Alucard game was in "freeze mode" and I believe this was said AFTER E3 2010. I'm sure of it.

But we probably have to wait until E3 or TGS next year until news of it comes out. Man, I wish it was like the summer of 2008 again when they announced some exciting Castlevania news every week or so. Good times.