Topic: Is Iga washed up?

[e105beta]

Dave Cox has said that CV has put itself in a small niche, so they must radically change everything to get the Ninja Gaiden/DMC/etc. players into CV. But then again he's always contradicting himself so maybe he did say the opposite at one point.

He's never really said anything about radically changing Castlevania beyond "Forget what you know" which can be taken multiple ways :/

[Nagumo]

So he was only talking to the people who don't know everything about Castlevania?     

[e105beta]

No?

[Sumac]

We had this storyline for Bloodlines, Castlevania, Chi no Rondo, The Adventure, Circle of the Moon... and they are all great games !

Having some other storyline in the series will not hurt it. As long as this story is good.

If you consider that every Castlevania game after 2001 is Spin-Off

While I dislike HOD and doesn't very fond of POR - how they could be spin-offs? HOD starring Belmont and POR is direct (if bad) continuation of Bloodlines.
Don't let hatred cloud your mind and judgement.

[Dremn]

I'm not sure whether Iga is washed up or not. OoE seemed to me to be a step in the right direction. More difficulty, less anime, etc. With HD, eh.

you forgot to mention about how he brought in a woman protagonest for the first time which is against his personal beliefs. But I guess that can filed in the etc. section. 

-X

Shanoa is one of the best protagonists in the series

dat back

[Nagumo]

No?

If you say so.

[e105beta]

If you say so.

I didn't say what you're implying.

[Sillek]

Shanoa is one of the best protagonists in the series

dat back

Hell yes.

[Nagumo]

I didn't say what you're implying.

Well can you explain yourself? Because I didn't quite understand how else "forget everything you know about Castlevania" can be taken besides just that.   

[e105beta]

Well can you explain yourself? Because I didn't quite understand how else "forget everything you know about Castlevania" can be taken besides just that.   

Forget everything you know about Castlevania doesn't necessarily mean "We're changing everything, so forget what you know because this has nothing in common." It could also imply "We're coming at this from a different angle, forget what you know. Come at it with an open mid."

[crisis]

Well, they did change everything, there's no denying that. Only things in common are mostly superficial & in name only.

It's good to have an open mind, but not so much 'till your brain falls out 

[corneliab]

You play as a Belmont with a whip (of which is used for both combat and platforming), and you traverse through linear enviroments spanning across a varied countryside setting.

Dismissing the core of the series as superficial is just stupid.

[e105beta]

Well, they did change everything, there's no denying that. Only things in common are mostly superficial & in name only.

It's good to have an open mind, but not so much 'till your brain falls out  

I'd argue this one to the death.

You play as a Belmont. You have a chain whip. You traverse the countryside and gothic castles while fighting various mythological and supernatural creatures along the way, with the ultimate quest of defeating a vampire overlord.

The game focuses on platforming and twitch gameplay, as well as deviating off the linear path in order to find extra goodies.

That doesn't sound like changing everything to me, nor does it sound superficial. What you seem to be calling superficial is essentially what causes games to be different than one another.

[crisis]

If the Japanese LoS site is to be believed, then Gabriel isn't even a "real" Belmont! He just chose to call himself that because it sounds cool

Some years ago, a child was found on the door of one of the Brotherhood of Lights convents. It is not known who his original parents were though some suspected he was an unwanted bastard from a local wealthy landowner, most likely the Cronqvist family though this has never been proven.

Gabriel took the surname of Belmont, after his love of mountains and the high places of the World.

Then there's the Olrox/Brauner fiasco, etc. That's why I said "common in name only."


The "whip" behaves & looks more like a hook shot than anything, so they decided to call it a "Combat Cross." And we have yet to see any video clips of real platforming, despite the game being a less than 2 months till release.


So what we have is a man with a whip-like weapon, traversing countryside fighting monsters. You can also call that Rygar.

[e105beta]

I hate this term being thrown around. "Real platforming". What is REAL platforming? Jumping from one platform to another WITHOUT clinging to a wall?

1. That's an extremely backward thinking view
2. Clocktower level

Also, the combat cross behaves more like a whip than pretty much every other Castlevania game minus LoI. Plus, it's a chain whip. It's not going to crack and snap. What whip can:
A. Be shot straight forward like a *gasp* hookshot for massive damage?
B. Be twirled around like a streamer?

EDIT: The combat cross behaves like exactly what it is: a chain. If anything, the older Castlevania games didn't have whips that behaved like what they were