Topic: Feelings towards Iga's downplaying of past Belmonts...

[Kale]

Well, I got a bad memory so I get things mixed up here and there. Still, it doesn't mean the Belmonts are the only ones who can. They're teh most powerful vkillers, god knows its beensaid enough times. But that doesn't mean they are "OMG INVINCIBLE"."

[The Last Belmont]

Anybody else pissed off on how Iga treats the Belmonts that he didn't create?

1.Allows Richter to succumb to a spell cast by Shaft.

Um he's only human and shaft was a ghost. Simon gets cursed by dracula in Simon's Quest, the belmonts aren't all powerful they're human too, shaft did his homework and was able to curse Richter.

2.Has Richter use his "most powerful" attack against Alucard to only have it do basically nothing.

Alucard is a badass I actually thought that was cool, we never actually see alucard's true strength in III or Legends, so that really didn't bother me too much.

3.Doesn't even have Alucard fear Richter. Trevor defeated Alucard hundreds of years prior. Especially since, according to legend, each Belmont becomes more powerful every generation, you'd think Alucard would at least have doubts.

Alucard is a proud member of the Tepes family, showing fear in front of a friend or enemy is just not in his character. He hates himself and wants to die, that's why he sleeps all the time, he had no reason to show any kind of fear, and he couldn't afford to let it get in his way, and we also don't know what effect his vampiric blood has on him in relation to the emotions he exhibits, he may not show fear because he honestly doesn't feel it.

4.Has Jonathon Morris defeat Richter through the Whip's
memory. That's just bull shit.

But the belmonts get stronger every generation as was said so he should have been able to take him.

5.Has Trevor get stabbed.

Do you mean in COD? It was to further the story Trevor didn't die or anything, even Richter is shown with injuries or so I'm told in some cutscenes in Rondo.

6.Doesn't even mention what happens to Trevor in CoD's ending.

Uh Trevor wasn't the main character, Hector was. Trevor went on to have kids/do whatever he did in his spare time, it wasn't necessary to show it he was a minor character. He may have also done that for a reason.

7.Insinuates that Trevor wouldn't have been able to defeat Dracula if Hector didn't "betray" Dracula, though this was only insinuated by an angry, upset Isaac.

I didn't get that at all, Trevor even says he did it by his own power + warriors who helped him.

I'm sure there are plenty more but I can't think of any at the moment. I always fear that Iga is going to remake Castlevania 1 and/or 2 because he'll most likely down play Simon, making him need help from others or something. However, he always seems to make the characters he creates all mighty. Does this piss anybody else off?

He won't do that for one Castlevania was already remade for the PS1, however he only changed simon's appearance for the most part. He admitted that he loves the classics, III is his favorite so I fail to think he'd intentionally do anything to tarnish the

[Long John Silver]

But the belmonts get stronger every generation as was said so he should have been able to take him.

True belmonts, those who use the whip for generations since almost 1000 years. Not some offshot family that didn't even have it for 100 years, and has to seek help just to be able to use it properly.

Richter lost in por only because it wasn't really him, but just an image of him, an avatar created by the whip, made only to serve as a ritual battle to test a potential new wielder, not to kill him. The battle just stops after enough damage is dealt, not ends in victory or defeat for either fighter.

[The Last Belmont]

True belmonts, those who use the whip for generations since almost 1000 years. Not some offshot family that didn't even have it for 100 years, and has to seek help just to be able to use it properly.

Jonathan is a belmont, if anything it his not being able to use it at first that is at fault, not him beating Richter. He's descended from the same bloodline, his last name shouldn't matter, the whip should have been able to sense his belmont blood and let him use it.

[Long John Silver]

Yeah but so? Ever since the family was branched out after trevor and before Christopher they never used the whip even once until quincey. They never fought dracula either, so I don't see why should they be getting stronger. I'd assume the fact that he couldn't use the whip was because of the centuries his family was just idly leading normal life.

If something, the constant usage of the whip, training for their whole life and battling the lord of darkness is what makes the real Belmonts stronger with each generation. You could say they got "battle hardened" and compatible with the whip over the generations, while the offshot families didn't do shit.

jonathan would be a total wimp and pushover if he were to fight a real Belmont. I think he even said so himself, that he was barely able to beat the fake image of a belmont.

[The Last Belmont]

Yeah but so? Ever since the family was branched out after trevor and before Christopher they never used the whip even once until quincey. They never fought dracula either, so I don't see why should they be getting stronger. I'd assume the fact that he couldn't use the whip was because of the centuries his family was just idly leading normal life.

Well yeah but being vampire killers they were still training and may have been going after other vampires.

If something, the constant usage of the whip, training for their whole life and battling the lord of darkness is what makes the real Belmonts stronger with each generation. You could say they got "battle hardened" and compatible with the whip over the generations, while the offshot families didn't do shit.

We don't know what they did, dracula isn't the only vampire and they may have had other magic weapons too.

jonathan would be a total wimp and pushover if he were to fight a real Belmont. I think he even said so himself, that he was barely able to beat the fake image of a belmont.

He did? I don't remember him saying it in the game. Though if that's true it may have been the whips doing, we don't know if the image of Richter he fought was like a clone of the real Richter or if it possessed more endurance etc. Also  as said before Jonathan doesn't have that much battle experience while he may be strong, he never undertook proper Vampire Killer training (unless I just forgot him mentioning that as I haven't played the game in awhile, though I do remember him saying his father John died when he was younger)so just being able to beat a fully trained warrior like Richter with his lack of experience was a huge feat.

[Kale]

In Reply To #32

Just because Trevor wasn't the main character, doesn't mean they can't tell you what happens to him. The fact that he was disregarded was bad story telling, leaves an open end and it doesn't seem like he'll add more.

[CVfan13]

He did? I don't remember him saying it in the game.

Yes, he did say that. I think he said it to Eric or perhaps his daughters (Eric's, not Jonathans!).

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7.Insinuates that Trevor wouldn't have been able to defeat Dracula if Hector didn't "betray" Dracula, though this was only insinuated by an angry, upset Isaac.

I didn't get that at all, Trevor even says he did it by his own power + warriors who helped him.

OMG!!! Do you people even know what it means to "taunt your enemy"? Isaac was pissed off because he knew Trevor was beating him, that's why he fled, and he tried to annoy Trevor by saying he, and I quote, "beat Lord Dracula by a fluke, a mere twist of fortune." He wasn't serious, only a complete idiot (someone dumber than Dario. lol.) would believe a Belmont couldn't beat Dracula. And, Isaac may be gay (he KISSED Trevor!!), but he's NOT totally stupid. lol

[Baigan]

In Reply To #38

As Trevor was the first Belmont to defeat Dracula, that precedent had not been established yet. No one had any way of knowing whether a Belmont could beat Dracula.

[CVfan13]

In Reply To #39

Ooooh, well then, I guess I have to slightly alter that. Isaac didn't really know he could beat Dracula, but he was serious, I guess,that's to be expected, though, since he was Dracula's servant. Still, I think he said that in a kinda pissed off mood.

[The Last Belmont]

In Reply To #39

Ooooh, well then, I guess I have to slightly alter that. Isaac didn't really know he could beat Dracula, but he was serious, I guess,that's to be expected, though, since he was Dracula's servant. Still, I think he said that in a kinda pissed off mood.

Isaac = Dumbass, Trevor totally overpowered dracula and pwned him in 3, you beat all 3 forms of drac at 100% power saying it was a fluke is just a dumbass statement and I think it just shows Isaac refused to accept the truth.

[CVfan13]

In Reply To #41

Thank you. That's exactly what I was trying to get at, just couldn't think of the words 

[The Last Belmont]

In Reply To #42

np bro.