Topic: Why did Elizabetha's death make Mathias turn evil?

[Zacmac90]

I can understand he is upset about losing his wife but then again Leon lost his beloved too but you don't see him turning his back on God, there had to be something more to it...

[paulstanley]

Because he was out, fighting for God, and he felt betrayed that God didn't protect his loved one.

I guess Leon was more rational and figured out that people are going to die anyway, whether you devote your life to God or not, while Mathias overreacted.

That's really all there is to it.

[whitedragon_nall]

Mathias was a crusader fighting in the name of God. He saw the death of Elizabetha as an act of betrayal by God. Because of this, he chose to defy God by granting himself eternal life.

As for Leon, I guess he just saw things differently than Mathias. He took an oath to kill that which took Sara's life rather than blame God for it.

2 men. 2 different perspectives. I suppose there can be more to it than that, but this is pretty much all we have to go by. 

[Reinhart77]

there might be more specific details at why he would specifically blame God in the phone manga, which never made it out in English. 

[Claimh Solais]

there might be more specific details at why he would specifically blame God in the phone manga, which never made it out in English. 

I have the first four volumes of the first season. They're all in Japanese though, and I really don't wanna translate it. A friend of mine said he'd do it. If I payed him. >.>

Plus the file's about 1.68GB so I don't feel like uploading it either. Not with my 448MB of RAM. That'd kill me. o.o

[Reinhart77]

hey that's ok.  any juicy facts that would make us go "oh, i didn't know that" would be nice 

[Claimh Solais]

Well, I'll try to pay him somewhat to translate the pages that look the most important, or some other stuff. The drawings are nice, I'll tell you that much. Much better than Judgment (even though secretly, I kinda liked a few of those designs).

[Danial]

I have the first four volumes of the first season. They're all in Japanese though, and I really don't wanna translate it. A friend of mine said he'd do it. If I payed him. >.>

Plus the file's about 1.68GB so I don't feel like uploading it either. Not with my 448MB of RAM. That'd kill me. o.o

Did you get it online?  Is there a place we could download it?  I'm sure we can get it translated if we could just find it.

[Svart]

uhm... dunno it certainly made more sense on coppola's dracula, with all the "your beloved have committed suicide so she will burn in hell for an eternity" and all.

still, for how i understood the plot. it's not exactly mathias turning evil.. or more evil of what he already was. maybe he never give much consideration at the price to pay to fulfill one objectives. therefore using sahra to make leon kill walter wasn't such an unnatural thing for him to do, he just never had the need to do it before.

and he was angry at god for forcing humans to endure the bitter taste of mortality, such as his beloved elizabetha did, so he turned into a vampire as a way of saying Fu** you god, i'm out of that rule.

there isn't any record that he used his power for greater generic evil (just generic heresy) until Lisa was killed.... by humans, so i guess its kinda understandable?

also before lisa death, there was various not so evil people who cared for Drac, such as Lisa, Alucard, uhmm.. this guy Hector.. etc.

[Claimh Solais]

Did you get it online?  Is there a place we could download it?  I'm sure we can get it translated if we could just find it.

Nope. My friend downloaded it onto his phone while he was in Japan and sent me the file. I then took it and converted it into .PNG files (cuz I hate every other file). Sadly, they're insanely high quality (1.68GB like I said before). My computer won't be able to handle an upload of that size.

I'm sure you can get it SOMEWHERE. I mean, I'm sure someone in Japan loaded the files onto the interwebs.

[Flame]

He really only technically became "evil" once he started his war on Humanity.

Before that he was pretty much just opposed to God, but had no business with anyone other than himself and his family. I mena hey, he married a Human woman while he was a Vampire right? And I mean, SHE obviously saw something in him to marry him.

[crisis]

I'm sure you can get it SOMEWHERE. I mean, I'm sure someone in Japan loaded the files onto the interwebs.

Nope, you're the only one on this forum so far that claims to have this manga. How are you gonna tease us yet refuse to find a way to upload it for us??

As the old saying goes, If there's a will, there's a way we'll translate it all, don't let us down..

[Claimh Solais]

Nope, you're the only one on this forum so far that claims to have this manga. How are you gonna tease us yet refuse to find a way to upload it for us??

As the old saying goes, If there's a will, there's a way we'll translate it all, don't let us down..

I can try to find a way to downgrade the quality. But my hard drive has like, 1GB of free space on it. It's a shared computer and the other twat waffles using it refuse to delete anything. I only have 448MB of RAM, so uploading the full file anywhere will crash my computer.

[Danial]

Would it be possible for you to save it to a thumb drive and send it to one of us?

Like Flame said, this thing is impossible to find.  If we could actually get ahold of a copy, it would be like pure gold lol.

[Nagumo]

Oh man, I remember Successor me helping find a guy who owned this thing and could translate it, but eventually he just disappeared after he had promised to do it no less. He didn't even bother to upload the scans so I could find somebody else to do the translation.

But yes, sending it to somebody else would really help. I know the manga has several effects like sound effects, and vibration but sadly you kind off miss out on that if you read it on a computer. Oh well.