Topic: A new female lead?

[Thomas Belmont]

No. I want to save the girl, not play as her.

[Von Doodling]

The 1999 game will have a brother with black sunglasses that among the Vampires he was known as "The Day Walker".

Don't you think It'd be cool if he make an appearance in Castlevania?

Oh sure and the merchant in this game would sell liquor and handguns. Castlevania would take an undefined slope to hell if there was a black lead character.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Oh sure and the merchant in this game would sell liquor and handguns. Castlevania would take an undefined slope to hell if there was a black lead character.

Wow that is kinda racist don't you think?

If the main character was a "black" man/girl I see no reason to add racial stereortypes such as a Merchant selling liquor and handguns.

[Flame]

Oh sure and the merchant in this game would sell liquor and handguns. Castlevania would take an undefined slope to hell if there was a black lead character.

Racist much..?

Its about a white guy with a whip because the Belmonts are white folks with whips. that simple.
I doubt there are that many Black people in Romania.

[Von Doodling]

So I have a sense of humor about the subject. Big deal.

Racist much..?

Its about a white guy with a whip because the Belmonts are white folks with whips. that simple.

Right and let's keep it simple. It makes better sense. A black lead character? Why? How would it be integral to the series? Or  be an interesting diversion?

Castlevania could use a black lead character....

It's a purposeless misdirected gripe for the sake of apeasing a certain croud or to reshape the existing croud and ultimately screw shit up.  Some things are fine the way they are. It's not wise to destroy a franchise just for the sake of diversity. I'm not worried about it though because I know it will never happen, though the idea is scary. Now a female character, that works. It's a plausible change to the dynamic stream of heros in the series.

[Kale]

Sypha <-- CV3
Sonia <-- CVL
Carrie <-- CV64
Charlotte <-- OR
Maria <-- Rondo/SoTN
Shanoa <-- OOE.
ADA <-- ....wait wrong game ;P

And yes there should be more female protagonist. Now here is an even more interesting factor that is slightly off topic - and honestly I find this funny, so don't take it too seriously: Anyone ever notice how racist Castlevania is? It's always a white guy with a whip. ;o Let's see some brother's as protagonist!

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Sypha, Carrie, Maria are far from leads. They are supporting characters, or side to side with the lead at best.

As for teh racist statement... I see it the other way around... people pulling the race card when there isn't one... well, maybe because the story has nothign to do wit black people! I really do hate the insertion of random black guys. Always so out of place.

[X]

As for teh racist statement... I see it the other way around... people pulling the race card when there isn't one... well, maybe because the story has nothign to do wit black people! I really do hate the insertion of random black guys. Always so out of place.

It's probably not that far off considering that good ol' IGA has introduced Asian characters and Asian mythology into Castlevania. And if there is to be a Black protagonist then chances are it'll be a Castlevania Gaiden (sidestory) game or an assistant lead alongside the hero.

[Pemburu Vampir]

What is an Asian boy doing in my game called Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow? I thought the game only involves white people as the lead?

[jestercolony]

The 1999 game will have a brother with black sunglasses that among the Vampires he was known as "The Day Walker".

Don't you think It'd be cool if he make an appearance in Castlevania?

LOL! If this was so linked to FB I'd so like this comment on this thread

[Von Doodling]

Changing the cultural landscape with Soma in AoS/DoS wasn't really a good move but I didn't make me dislike the games. They had decent music, good mechanics etc. but it didn't make me feel like I was playing a CV game. Independently they're great games, but the storyline is more like "the Asian wonderboy who's warped to Dracula's castle to save his love interest, kick some ass, have interesting encounters with CV related characters, finds out he has an 900 year vampire living inside him, and save the world and himself from destruction end of story". Almost as if the supporting characters and the castle itself is just a giant cameo appearence.

The original CV feel is pretty much unrooted to support the Soma's background and explain who he is. So much is lost from the original formula. A black leading character would just do the same thing or possibly worse.

I know the original poster was being facetious with their comment, but we've already had a mishap with Aos/DoS and don't need anymore and the thought is just unsettling.

[jestercolony]

Changing the cultural landscape with Soma in AoS/DoS wasn't really a good move but I didn't make me dislike the games. They had decent music, good mechanics etc. but it didn't make me feel like I was playing a CV game. Independently they're great games, but the storyline is more like "the Asian wonderboy who's warped to Dracula's castle to save his love interest, kick some ass, have interesting encounters with CV related characters, finds out he has an 900 year vampire living inside him, and save the world and himself from destruction end of story". Almost as if the supporting characters and the castle itself is just a giant cameo appearence.

The original CV feel is pretty much unrooted to support the Soma's background and explain who he is. So much is lost from the original formula. A black leading character would just do the same thing or possibly worse.

I know the original poster was being facetious with their comment, but we've already had a mishap with Aos/DoS and don't need anymore and the thought is just unsettling.

Well - eventually the game does have to go in to the modern times. Remember that in the original cannon that the Church has been keeping this battle secret for centuries and will continue, eventually Soma will have to die and the reincarnation will have to happen again. I think I understand from official Konami sources from an interview (someone on the forums mentioned this in a post before, but not this one.) is that with every regeneration cycle he "forgets" certain things now.  The reason why the tied mythology from Japan was put into it is for a lot reasons - mostly business and tribute to the country the game origins from, but also keep in mind is that Castlevania has borrowed sources with other forms of Mythology (Atlantis/Greek/Egypt...etc.) so I honestly don't see why there is a problem with implementing this aspect in to the series because the Japanese do have a very interesting mythology, when demons and evil are involved.

What really doesn't make sense to me is the fact that the Japanese normally don't believe in the Christian deity, even to this day, even though there are some who have converted to said religion. And as to why you think is un-rooted is alien to me. The original purpose since day 1 of the series was the fact the game was to pay tribute to classic horror film monsters of movies of the 40s/50s and novels of past ages. (Wolfman, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Dracula...etc.) That was its real purpose behind it. It didn't fully start developing a story around it until Simon's Quest came out, which implanted a curse on Simon, which we found in CV3 that Dracula has a regeneration cycle.  And as for Soma's love interest, in fact that she is the reincarnation of his two other wives (Elizabetha/Lisa.) I mean, shit... Who else would be shocked to know that he is the reincarnation of a true and prime evil? I know I would be... As for the 'save' himself part - yeah I can understand that. But prevent the world from destruction? No you're honestly wrong because there -will- always be a Belmont or someone of that bloodline to put him back in to his regeneration cycle. Had Soma turned - it would of set the Castle free and the cycle, again would continue. 


Why do you think Alucard was so afraid? It was because of the fact that he puts himself to sleep for centuries until he is needed due to this 'greater' evil is because of the fact that he is his father's son. And (I am not christian btw.) that the Father's sins will be passed on to their sons. So if Soma is secure it is more than likely a chance (a slim one) that Alucard will take over his father's throne and become an even more threat because he is a day walker. And we all know that Alucard was able to instantly slaughter a Belmont if he really wanted to. The Vampire Killer just damaged him, he was only  resistant to it because of his dampirism.

As IGA said - there was a LOT more going on in CV3 then what was released to the public in the US and its been lately since SoTN that we have been discovering more and more elements. It's kinda like saying that Satan in a Castlevania game doesn't mix - especially with the current cannon, in which I find strikingly odd because how can Dracula by the "Prince of Darkness" and have the "Castle of Hell" and have rule of the under world and dominion over its monsters? Well obviously something is going on here...

And what's wrong with a black guy being in Castlevania? Just an fyi guys - Hammer was said to be an African, if I remember correctly (I honestly don't remember where I had read that, but I know it was somewhere. If I find it through a little big of digging I'll post it later.) And also the reason why Ayami's designs are the way they are to give the men a feminine appearance was to attract the female gender to the series... Its a very common thing in Japan, the "Pretty boy" look, as it is very not laughed at thing in their society is known to have a lot of cross-genders, its been in their culture for centuries and respected.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I think the "Black Guy with Sunglasses who is a 'Day Walker'" thing was a nod to Blade, another famous Vampire series.

And yes Von Doodling, that was very very racist, and we do not tolerate that around here.
Keep it up and you'll be banned.  You've been warned.  I don't care how funny you think it is.

[Pemburu Vampir]

I think the "Black Guy with Sunglasses who is a 'Day Walker'" thing was a nod to Blade, another famous Vampire series.

Yes, it's Blade the Daywalker that I was talking about.

[Flame]

who DIDNT get the blade reference?

[Von Doodling]

Well - eventually the game does have to go in to the modern times. Remember that in the original cannon that the Church has been keeping this battle secret for centuries and will continue, eventually Soma will have to die and the reincarnation will have to happen again. I think I understand from official Konami sources from an interview (someone on the forums mentioned this in a post before, but not this one.) is that with every regeneration cycle he "forgets" certain things now.  The reason why the tied mythology from Japan was put into it is for a lot reasons - mostly business and tribute to the country the game origins from, but also keep in mind is that Castlevania has borrowed sources with other forms of Mythology (Atlantis/Greek/Egypt...etc.) so I honestly don't see why there is a problem with implementing this aspect in to the series because the Japanese do have a very interesting mythology, when demons and evil are involved.

I won't disagree that the Japanese have an interesting mythology and in many ways it could be suitable to Castlevania, but does Castlevania need to expand beyond Europe in the future years to come? Why not use Japanese mythology in the realm of Castlevania itself? Or at least have something like the portals in Portrait of Ruin if traveling to another land is really that important. If the purpose of removing Castlevania from Europe is to change the scenery and eliminate the repetitive nature of the game it's pointless, because the game operates on repetitive structure itself of constantly ressurrecting Dracula. It just functions best that way. The whole Soma or Malus (CV64) incarnation thing is just this temporary bypass to the greater scheme of things which is Dracula. An interesting plot, but a diversion that only ends in the similar way as every other Castlevania. Besides anything plot based that happened in AoS/DoS could have happened in Europe right? It didn't have to be Japan.

Sadly to say there's only so much left to do with the series, how many more times can Dracula be ressurected from the time of his first reign all the way past Dawn of Sorrow? I don't want to see Castlevania turning into The Fifth Element or the Jetson's. Dracula is going to have to eat shit at one point. I never was a big fan of the whole Aos/Dos games and if they keep making new games I really hope they continue to recycle the old time periods so we can keep the original feel we remember the series to be.

On another note,

Yeah I had no idea about the Blade movies till you guys told me. I actually just finished watching one and you know what? I didn't like it. Can you guys guess why? Just kidding don't answer that.

No but seriously, the Blade movies are ok and I think the Blade character is fine as a black guy, and to be honest I don't think it would make a difference what color he is. However in Castlevania....that's another story and a conflict that would shake the integrity of the series itself. The purpose of my argument altogether so I'm not gonna keep chipping away at that. I have my own point of view of that subject and I'm sure many would agree with me to an extent.

As for my earlier stereotype, well that's a matter of perspective. It can be seen as a racist comment in one light or seen as an observation based on a large body of substancial evidence that's possibly true. I just see things differently, it's not a crime. Anyhow for the purpose of forum etiquette I won't say anything else like that again.