Topic: A new female lead?

[Munchy]

If another female protagonist is introduced, please please please don't just be another goddamn mage. Though I thoroughly enjoyed OoE, the fact that Shanoa could only use swords and maces with magic glyphs was kinda... telling.

[Dengo vlad tepes]

If a warrior yes !!

[KaZudra]

Shanoa was Awesome, she was a big element toward making OoE the best DS cV game.

Another female lead would have to be a tough girl with emotions though, that way we can have a story.

[uzo]

You're a Hellsing fan too, Uzo?

Damn straight.

And I do agree with whats being said here. Shanoa was a step in the right direction, though I can see how the Glyph system could be interpreted as "an excuse for a woman to wield 'real' weapons". I really did like Shanoa though. She had class and wasn't afraid to beat down the undead, all while sporting a really hot look. Even her voice was confident and stood out. I really enjoyed playing as her.

I do not however believe that IGA is sexist. Legends being booted from canon makes sense in that it defies several long standing canon facts. Not because Sonia is a woman. In general though, I think IGA is just trying to make things a little more close to real world standards for the time periods. That's not to say that there have not been exceptions, but it is a general guideline of the time periods used. As evidence of this, Shanoa, Charlotte, and Yoko come from a later time period where it's a bit more acceptable.

Curse of Darkness was a missed opportunity though, in my opinion. Some women of the era turned to the dark arts as a form of social relief. Within those circles they had more freedom and power than society would allow them normally. Hector could have EASILY been a woman who joined Dracula's dark arts as a social escape.

Even then, mage girls don't have to be weak and timid. You can still pull off a powerful and badass mage girl. It's really more how it's presented than the powers they wield.

In general, I can see why things have gone the way they have, but I think with a little creativity and clever writing you can keep this concept and still introduce strong female leads.

[KaZudra]

Damn straight.

And I do agree with whats being said here. Shanoa was a step in the right direction, though I can see how the Glyph system could be interpreted as "an excuse for a woman to wield 'real' weapons". I really did like Shanoa though. She had class and wasn't afraid to beat down the undead, all while sporting a really hot look. Even her voice was confident and stood out. I really enjoyed playing as her.

I do not however believe that IGA is sexist. Legends being booted from canon makes sense in that it defies several long standing canon facts. Not because Sonia is a woman. In general though, I think IGA is just trying to make things a little more close to real world standards for the time periods. That's not to say that there have not been exceptions, but it is a general guideline of the time periods used. As evidence of this, Shanoa, Charlotte, and Yoko come from a later time period where it's a bit more acceptable.

Curse of Darkness was a missed opportunity though, in my opinion. Some women of the era turned to the dark arts as a form of social relief. Within those circles they had more freedom and power than society would allow them normally. Hector could have EASILY been a woman who joined Dracula's dark arts as a social escape.

Even then, mage girls don't have to be weak and timid. You can still pull off a powerful and badass mage girl. It's really more how it's presented than the powers they wield.

In general, I can see why things have gone the way they have, but I think with a little creativity and clever writing you can keep this concept and still introduce strong female leads.

This and Saturn Maria is the Strongest being in the CV universe which IGa had part in.

Seriously, go look at some videos of Saturn Maria being OP, then you'll all understand why I spit on the PSP maria

[Gunlord]

You know, that's a very perceptive comment, uzo-sama I never knew you were interested in medieval history either. I would just add a bit to this:

"mage girls don't have to be weak and timid."

I think mages in general don't have to be physically weak, either. I just wrote a fanfic where the main evil mage was a tall, muscular man who wore plate mail and fought with his fists as well as dark magic. It might be possible to do something similar with a woman--a very lean, physically-fit woman with toned muscles wearing a sexy yet classy suit of armor who fought with physical swords and axes but used magic to enhance her weaponry. ;o

[thernz]

Well, unlike Saturn Maria, PSP Maria actually plays like,
you know,
Maria.

[Neobelmont]

You know, that's a very perceptive comment, uzo-sama I never knew you were interested in medieval history either. I would just add a bit to this:

"mage girls don't have to be weak and timid."

I think mages in general don't have to be physically weak, either. I just wrote a fanfic where the main evil mage was a tall, muscular man who wore plate mail and fought with his fists as well as dark magic. It might be possible to do something similar with a woman--a very lean, physically-fit woman with toned muscles wearing a sexy yet classy suit of armor who fought with physical swords and axes but used magic to enhance her weaponry. ;o

It sounds like this


Ys II: Castle in the Heavens, Ep2 part 3/3

[Zydalc]

Damn straight.

And I do agree with whats being said here. Shanoa was a step in the right direction, though I can see how the Glyph system could be interpreted as "an excuse for a woman to wield 'real' weapons". I really did like Shanoa though. She had class and wasn't afraid to beat down the undead, all while sporting a really hot look. Even her voice was confident and stood out. I really enjoyed playing as her.

I do not however believe that IGA is sexist. Legends being booted from canon makes sense in that it defies several long standing canon facts. Not because Sonia is a woman. In general though, I think IGA is just trying to make things a little more close to real world standards for the time periods. That's not to say that there have not been exceptions, but it is a general guideline of the time periods used. As evidence of this, Shanoa, Charlotte, and Yoko come from a later time period where it's a bit more acceptable.

Curse of Darkness was a missed opportunity though, in my opinion. Some women of the era turned to the dark arts as a form of social relief. Within those circles they had more freedom and power than society would allow them normally. Hector could have EASILY been a woman who joined Dracula's dark arts as a social escape.

Even then, mage girls don't have to be weak and timid. You can still pull off a powerful and badass mage girl. It's really more how it's presented than the powers they wield.

In general, I can see why things have gone the way they have, but I think with a little creativity and clever writing you can keep this concept and still introduce strong female leads.

Well I think IGA didn't look into history deeper enough and there were women back then who fought back then and you said something about "missed opportunities" and also the part bolded they could have explored that possible exception. So yes IGA was sexist.

[TheouAegis]

Wow, semi-necroed topics.

Just look at Xena and Gabriel. Girls can be good, violent protagonists!

And going back to an old post in this thread, whoever said a female Belmont would have to be married? The Belmont family has been cast aside by the Church so many times, there's no reason they'd have to follow cultural standards. I'm not saying Mrs. Belmont would be a slut, but maybe her fiance was killed by Dracula or his minions or whatever (while trying to fight Dracula). The Belmonts weren't the only ones to fight Dracula, remember, they were just the only ones to defeat him. So fate could have played a part in preserving the Belmont name -- by killing off the soon-to-be husband and making the heir-apparent an illegitimate bastard child.

[X]

And going back to an old post in this thread, whoever said a female Belmont would have to be married? The Belmont family has been cast aside by the Church so many times, there's no reason they'd have to follow cultural standards. I'm not saying Mrs. Belmont would be a slut, but maybe her fiance was killed by Dracula or his minions or whatever (while trying to fight Dracula). The Belmonts weren't the only ones to fight Dracula, remember, they were just the only ones to defeat him. So fate could have played a part in preserving the Belmont name -- by killing off the soon-to-be husband and making the heir-apparent an illegitimate bastard child.

I've been saying this too. It very easy to have a female Belmont heroine while at the same time preserving her house name. If only this had occurred to IGA...

[Arma]

hmmm... as long as the character is strong and interesting I don't really care their gender so... yeah why not, if everyone wants a female lead then they should give the fans another one.
As long it is a warrior.

[K.G. Morder]

Not to mention, and this is something Ive mentioned before I think- Its really more of a US custom, (cant speak for if it came from Britain back in the day though) for the Wife to take the Husband's surname. In many parts of South America and Europe, The Wife keeps her last name. Also, the Belmonts would be important enough that any Female member would preserve her surname upon marriage.

[uzo]

Its really more of a US custom, (cant speak for if it came from Britain back in the day though)

It far predates the USA, and predates Britain too for that matter.

[knightmere]

Maybe IGA should bring back Sonia Belmont into a new game and give her a new story?