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Re: Mercury steam is working on TWO unannounced games....
« Reply #90 on: August 17, 2011, 06:04:51 AM »
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I don't mind it seeming like movies, because that usually makes it more "epic" and sometimes with better story integration.

Look at Uncharted, the game was basically a kick ass interactive movie. Albeit, it had QTE which sucks... but because the rest of the game was so awesome I barely noticed it.

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Re: Mercury steam is working on TWO unannounced games....
« Reply #91 on: August 17, 2011, 06:31:24 AM »
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I don't mind it seeming like movies, because that usually makes it more "epic" and sometimes with better story integration.

Look at Uncharted, the game was basically a kick ass interactive movie. Albeit, it had QTE which sucks... but because the rest of the game was so awesome I barely noticed it.

I have never played Uncharted because I do not have a PS3 but maybe it is just how well it flows if the game trys too hard then it can fall flat.
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Re: Mercury steam is working on TWO unannounced games....
« Reply #92 on: August 17, 2011, 06:37:04 AM »
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Uncharted is awesome, but its awesome because it relies on the characters and the witty dialogue.
Its not trying to be Epic, its telling a damn good story as well as deliver some fun game-play.

Most of the other games which have a lone hero mostly try to be Epic, and when most of the dialogue pretty much ends in death threats before a battle the movie feel just doesn't work.
Castlevania could only work the movie feel if it were a game with more than one main character and interaction outside of cutscenes.

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« Reply #93 on: August 17, 2011, 04:44:21 PM »
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That's how most movies that suceed are... epic. Don't bring up titanic, that sack of shit. It succeeded but only because idiotic girls that watch it 7 times a week.

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« Reply #94 on: August 17, 2011, 07:12:20 PM »
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If you want to make a damn movie Make a movie, if you wanna make a game, MAKE A FUCKING GAME!
It's worked for MGS series and to the LOI to some extent. So it's not that bad idea after all. Games could and should be different.

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« Reply #95 on: August 18, 2011, 02:43:24 AM »
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It's worked for MGS series and to the LOI to some extent. So it's not that bad idea after all. Games could and should be different.

True I love me some MGS and ZOE but sometimes the cutscenes sort of bore me so yea it is not a bad idea heck not at all it's just sometimes I just need something quick  into my system get my cravings done with not wait so long for a cutscene to end then just five to ten minutes of gameplay then back to fifteen minutes of cutscenes yes you can skip them, but then it just does not feel right. Right if all games were the same then it would be stale and 'interactives movies' are good it's just sometimes it's not my cup of tea at the moment.
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Re: Mercury steam is working on TWO unannounced games....
« Reply #96 on: August 19, 2011, 01:06:13 AM »
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Is he telling us that Konami corporate kept their hands completely out of the process for LoS?  Is he saying that we have no one else to blame for its short comings but himself and the team? 

Doubtful. Konami wouldn't have assigned Hideo Kojima to the project otherwise. All Alvarez really said on that subject was "Konami gave us the freedom to shine," which isn't very telling. Besides, do you really expect him to say something negative about the people who write his paychecks?
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Re: Mercury steam is working on TWO unannounced games....
« Reply #97 on: August 19, 2011, 02:03:55 AM »
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Doubtful. Konami wouldn't have assigned Hideo Kojima to the project otherwise. All Alvarez really said on that subject was "Konami gave us the freedom to shine," which isn't very telling. Besides, do you really expect him to say something negative about the people who write his paychecks?
Yea, that's my suspicion as well.  The whole interview seemed to be the precursor to falling on the sword if LoS2 doesn't come of with the public very well.  As I said...for talking so much he really didn't say shit. 

At this point I'd rather not hear about the project anymore until they're ready to start unleashing the first round of trailers.  History has taught me that listening to developers talk about pending projects is completely useless unless the game is less than a month from release.  Too much changes during the life cycle of a game's development.  I recently uncovered an old issue of EGM that featured a preview article for "Conker's Quest"...which was a sticky sweet children's game at that point.  What did it turn into by the end of the project?  Conker's Bad Fur Day.  I rest my case. ;D

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« Reply #98 on: August 19, 2011, 02:49:41 AM »
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Wasnt Koijima's involvement his own thing? i was under the impression that it wasnt actually konami that ASSIGNED him to the project.
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« Reply #99 on: August 19, 2011, 02:56:00 AM »
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He took a liking to the project and gave them tips and pointers. He also allowed MS to get help from KP for technical issues too.

That's all I remember hearing.

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« Reply #100 on: August 19, 2011, 03:16:02 AM »
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such as the infamous advice on Gabriel's face.

Funnily enough, if the "Simon" dev test that was recently posted was what his face looked like before Koijima stepped in, then it really doesnt look all that different. Only difference is it now looks slightly more like Robert Carlyle's face.

Im still wondering why Zobek looks like Sean Connery. And yet, the Brotherhood portrait of his actually DOES looks a bit more like Patrick Stewart.

Im going to guess they originally wanted Connery for the part but couldnt get him for whatever reason.
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« Reply #101 on: August 19, 2011, 11:57:02 PM »
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sounds like a good theory to me.  it does make it feel a little off.

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« Reply #102 on: August 20, 2011, 03:06:57 AM »
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Im still wondering why Zobek looks like Sean Connery. And yet, the Brotherhood portrait of his actually DOES looks a bit more like Patrick Stewart.

Im going to guess they originally wanted Connery for the part but couldnt get him for whatever reason.

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« Reply #103 on: August 20, 2011, 12:38:37 PM »
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Re: Mercury steam is working on TWO unannounced games....
« Reply #104 on: August 20, 2011, 04:02:40 PM »
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Im still wondering why Zobek looks like Sean Connery

Cause characters that look like Sean Connery are usually awesome, like Big Boss in Metal gear 2 and Col. Gentleman from the Venture Bros.!
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