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Burton's Batman movies are my favorite. They found perfect balance between "realism" and "comic book reality". While Nolan movies are good the idea of making Batman as real as possible doesn't work for me. In the end it's a movie about guy who seriously calls himself BATman.

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No one said it has. He means that Castlevania was known as Belmont's vs Dracula. Now with LoS, everything we knew about Castlevania, has gone oposite. Yes i know, it's a reboot, but can you make a reboot of Superman, by turning him to super villain?
It's nothing new. And the idea of connecting Belmonts with Dracula (as blood relatives) always was on the surface. CVL arguably tried to pull it of, so LOS approach is nothing new to the series.

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Burton's movies are arguably closer to the comics in its "over-the-topness," but Schumaker's films sillyness factor was cranked up top notch & ultimately detracted from the overall seriousness of Batman. Seriously, Bat-nipples? LOL


and a lot more people consider Belmont & Dracula being related a travesty (since they're, you know, vampire hunters) than Mathias turning into Vlad Tepes (at least here at the Dungeon, the most popular CV site). Much like how TMNT fans hate Michael Bay turning them into an ALIEN race from another planet in his "reboot." It's a travesty that shits on the core material, but there's still a possibly it could turn out "good" so we remain optimistic. Most of us anyway, prunyuu~
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my predictions is Avengers will have the better action scenes, but DKR will have the better story. Spiderman will be hit or miss but at least we'll have a wise-crackin' Peter this time around

Im still waiting for DC to do Movie Continuity. Marvel has pulled it off quite well. Who would have thought prior to say, Iron Man, that there could ever be an Avengers movie?

Though DC still technically did it first with the DCAU, making Animated Continuity.

As far as batman movies go, I agree with Sumac- I like the Burton Batmovies. Specially the first one. Batman Returns is a tad bit TOO Burton.

also, without the Burton movies, we might not have gotten Batman The Animated Series, which is THE go to Batman cartoon.
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Batman TAS is, IMO, the perfect representation of comic Batman(more so than any of the movies and the television show). It's dark, gothic, somewhat realistic, but doesn't bullshit itself when it deals with magic, mysticism, science fiction and fantasy. It handles it the way it SHOULD, and doesn't downplay the more fantastical themes just for the sake of being "grounded". THAT'S how the comics were.

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Also Mask of the Phantasm is one of the best Batman movies.

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The Birth of Batman
Gives me chills every time I watch it. Every single time.

Batman TAS is, IMO, the perfect representation of comic Batman(more so than any of the movies and the television show). It's dark, gothic, somewhat realistic, but doesn't bullshit itself when it deals with magic, mysticism, science fiction and fantasy. It handles it the way it SHOULD, and doesn't downplay the more fantastical themes just for the sake of being "grounded". THAT'S how the comics were.

I would even call the DC Animated Universe superior to the comic book continuity. It doesnt shit around with all the shit Comic books do, revivals, kill offs, publicity stunt shit, bad writing shit, all the convoluted messes that the comic continuity pulls, doesnt exist in the DCAU. It's a single continuity spanning across 7 different animated series, and spans almost what, maybe a century? from Batman TAS to Batman Beyond? It even had a concrete ending with the JLU episode Epilogue finally wrapping up the Beyond time, therefore making a definitive ending to the DCAU.

It starts with Batman, it ends with Batman.
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It starts with Batman, it ends with Batman.

Never noticed that before. That's pretty cool 8)

On that note. No has, nor ever will, do a better Batman than Kevin Conroy.  Same goes for Mark Hamil with Joker.
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Gives me chills every time I watch it. Every single time.



It starts with Batman, it ends with Batman.

If there is a beginning there must be the end and here it is

The Final Ending To Batman
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Come on now this was going to happen eventually  :P

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If there is a beginning there must be the end and here it is

The Final Ending To Batman

this is the Reason I completely HATE JLU, trying to make Terry's life a set up, it was so stupid since it was obvious who wrote that episode never watched the show to get the whole point of it.

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this is the Reason I completely HATE JLU, trying to make Terry's life a set up, it was so stupid since it was obvious who wrote that episode never watched the show to get the whole point of it.

I felt the the nano-DNA-override nonsense was a silly plot device too, because it was a Kojimaesque way of cramming in needless revelations in a hurry to wrap things up. But I did like everything else about it.

New 52 is hollow, seemingly needless and I doubt it'll remain the main continuity. They seem to be just throwing ideas on the wall and see what sticks. DC/Warner is also having some trouble with the Superman lawsuits which I guess they're waiting to be settled or will just go away. But that might not happen.

Nolan movies have been great, but I honestly can't wait for the next director and star to take over. This kind of trilogy was nice for a change and it exorcised the ghost of Schumacher effectively, but I really hope the next guy to take over is more interested in both the mythology and style of Batman than trying to make it "realistic".

Still, to me it's obvious why a reboot like Begins worked and a reboot/side story/whatever like LoS didn't. Not the best comparison since the other's a movie series, but the same can be said of Arkham games. They're not a reboot, of course, but succeeded for many of the same reasons.


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To be honest, The revelation of Terry being Bruce's son was never much of a surprise, and im pretty sure plenty of people thought about similar things before. I mean, both his parents have brown/red hair and dark eyes, and here comes Terry with Black hair and blue eyes, just like Bruce. I mean, he looks like a younger Bruce, more or less.

I had no problem with it. Was it necessary? Not really. But is it any surprise? Not at all.

The episode could have been better made though. All throughout we get the black and white sequences of Terry being an idiot and a dick, and we are led to think that he has actually done those things before going to Waller's. And yet apparently according to the developers, those are not "past" sequences or flashbacks, but thoughts in Terry's mind. He feels like taking his anger to Bruce, he feels like he should stop seeing Dana, he feels like he should quit the JLU. But all he ever did, was break into Amanda Waller's home when he found out he was a perfect genetic match for Bruce's new kidney, and that apparently, Bruce might have known for a long time.
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As far as batman movies go, I agree with Sumac- I like the Burton Batmovies. Specially the first one. Batman Returns is a tad bit TOO Burton.
That is the reason why I like BR a bit more than the first movie. But they both really good.
And I think Schumacher was a fan of old Batman TV show. He took its camp and turned it up to 11, while adding acid and neon on top of it.
I still dream what could have been, if Burton made movie with Two-Face. I bet it would much better than BF "Two-Face"  that was more of a Joker rip-off than actual Two-Face. Though his costumes were nice.

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That is the reason why I like BR a bit more than the first movie.

When I read this, I first thought you were referring to Batman and Robin.

I don't know if I can hate a movie that has Arnold saying things like ICE TO MEET YOU. I just can't bring myself to hate that.

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