Topic: Do the Metroidvania's Get Any Better?

[thernz]

Except Dracula's body parts are in the Inverted Castle which was probably in the nether for half the game anyway. What a crazy castle.

[Nagumo]

yes but

IGA

[TheouAegis]

...meaning just ignore all the Metroidvanias because IGA is a nutcase?

Maybe Shaft couldn't actually revive Dracula because his parts were still in the inverted castle and that's what Richter was for - his presence in the castle on Dracula's throne opened a portal to the inverted castle so Shaft could attempt to reach Dracula's parts (after CV1, Dracula's parts hadn't left the world yet because of the curse he laid on Simon, I'm guessing).

[Raxivace]

That begs a question: when did Death get to the Inverted Castle?

He famously meets Alucard and steals his weapons and gear in Castlevania, and then plants them all over the Inverted Castle at some point. But when did he do this? Could he always go to the Inverted Castle?

[thernz]

Probably.

[Nagumo]

...meaning just ignore all the Metroidvanias because IGA is a nutcase?

Well, he sometimes comes with wacky ideas. Portrait of Ruin/Dawn of Sorrow even have a fantasy equivalent of technobabble to explain the plot.

[Sumac]

POR was a great idea, that was butchered via execution. If they didn't bring anime art, horrendous dialogue and bright areas, that could have been one of the best Castlevanias plot-wise.

As for DOS...I dunno...I don't see anything about Dracula-who-was-reborn-as-japanese-guy as something Castlevaniash. At all.

However, if I tryied to improve something about this game first few things would be: get rid of the anime art, rewrite dialogues, make HEAVY emphasis on the fact that game set in the 2036, adding several areas in Castle with high-tech stuff (rooms with computers, security cameras, maybe simplistic small robots, more modern weapons to the point that some enemies could be defeated only with them (like Galamoth in SOTN could have been easily defeted with a certain combination of weapon) and something like that), so DOS Castle would have its own "face" and be different from anything that was done before in the series. Gameplay-wise DOS is already very solid, but ultimately comes as boring and somewhat bland, mainly because of bland designs and boring story.

[SilentCircuit]

Most people think SOTN is the best game in the series.

[TheouAegis]

Most people think there is some kind of god out there.

SOTN is a bore. It's tedious and loses entertainment value by the time you get to the inverted castle.  Seeing as how in OoE all you ahve to do is rescue the villagers (although it's best to do their quests), it doesn't drag on. SOTN drags.

[Lumi Kløvstad]

SOTN is a bore. It's tedious and loses entertainment value by the time you get to the inverted castle. ... SOTN drags.

It does drag towards the end, but my biggest problem is that Konami keeps porting it to every system they can think of, and therefore I've played it so many times it's not fresh in the slightest.

The only way the game would feel fresh to me is if I got my hands on the Saturn version, and only then for the novelty of some newish content that's not in the other releases.

[Raxivace]

Most people think SOTN is the best game in the series.

I don't understand these people at all. It's easily my least favorite entry in the series from what I've played so far.

I got a lot of shit a few weeks ago on Facebook for suggesting Richter's "Die monster! You don't belong in this world!" line was actually in reference to SotN itself, and that Dracula's lines was metaphorical for the state of the Castlevania series. :p

[beingthehero]

guh-hyuck

[Charlotte-nyo:3]

It does drag towards the end, but my biggest problem is that Konami keeps porting it to every system they can think of, and therefore I've played it so many times it's not fresh in the slightest.

B...but you're not compelled to buy every release of the game =3 You haz de SotN purchasing addiction, yah? You muzt learn to wolk avay, no?

I don't understand these people at all. It's easily my least favorite entry in the series from what I've played so far.

I assure you that they do not understand you either. Your neural pathways are just wired differently than theirs in obscure ways and there is nothing that can be done.

[Raxivace]

I suppose so.

It's funny though, because most of the time I can at least understand what other people like about games that I didn't enjoy, or why something I like may not appeal to them. I was really struggling though to see why anyone would enjoy SotN's gameplay, or even go as far as to put it on "Greatest Games of All Time" lists.

[crisis]

Because it is one of the greatest games of all time, over 10 years later & it is still the best "metroidvania." Shame that you're in the minority that thinks otherwise