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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2012, 03:01:11 PM »
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Takeda Takashi did say he was the one responsible for Harmony of Dissonance focusing on graphics over sound quality, and apologized.

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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2012, 03:33:45 PM »
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I think he's ugly.

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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2012, 03:45:30 PM »
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Dude needs to keep his word when he makes promises about Super Castlevania IV being his bible.

If I'm going to stay a fan of Castlevania I'm going to have to get used to him eventually or stop supporting the franchise altogether.


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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2012, 03:59:25 PM »
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I doubt he even finished Castlevania IV or any classicvania for that matter, the man is positively full of it. I'm expecting LOS sequel to be the complete opposite to whatever he tells the public and even less like Castlevania than his first game.

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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2012, 05:03:58 PM »
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If I'm going to stay a fan of Castlevania I'm going to have to get used to him eventually or stop supporting the franchise altogether.

He has said he doesn't want to "become Mr. Castlevania". Judging by that, he shouldn't stay around for many games.


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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2012, 05:25:20 PM »
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maybe he was lying

maybe

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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2012, 05:32:43 PM »
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maybe he was lying

maybe

wouldn't be the first time.

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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2012, 05:42:13 PM »
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Cox is a troll.Period.

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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2012, 06:11:26 PM »
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IGA was the Writer as far as HoD, Aria, Dawn, Lament, and Curse.

For Portrait there was

IGA
Hiroto Yamaguch
Shutaro

For OoE,
IGA,
Tomohiro Takeda
Katuyuki Kuriyama
Takayoshi Kakehashi



For LoS,

Enric Álvarez
Dave Cox
Eddie Deighton
Jon Sloan
Enrique Ventura
Luis Miguel Quijada


Notice Cox is second on the list- (in PoR, OoE, and even Symphony, IGA is always listed first) Alvarez seems to be the main writer for LoS. And since there's a whole bunch of em, they all just throw ideas into the pool and eventually have to come to some sort of consensus. Which is then added into whatever Alvarez plans to do. Cox may be a Castlevania fan, that doesn't mean the rest of them know anything about Castlevania. The few Castlevania elements could be courtesy of Cox himself while the rest is the other writers trying to interpret Castlevania.
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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2012, 06:32:20 PM »
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I really don't make these exacting distinctions of who did what. Not to discredit anyone, but Dave Cox is the producer. I hold him accountable for whatever happened with Lords of Shadow. It is his job to oversee the project. Someone must be held accountable at large, for the good and the bad.

For whatever it's worth, some quotes from wikipedia.

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An internal producer is heavily involved in the development of, usually, a single game.

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In short, the internal producer is ultimately responsible for timely delivery and final quality of the game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_producer

That's enough for me to hold Cox responsible. I hold IGA responsible for the games he's produced, as well, for the good and the bad. If you are a game producer, you are accountable for the quality of your game, in all aspects.

The exception here would be Hideo Kojima, because I think it's common knowledge that he wasn't involved with LoS in much of a worthwhile manner, and was only listed as being a part of its development to help legitimize the game in the eyes of the audience. Another shameless, stupid, and empty tactic by Konami, much like the Super Castlevania IV statements, which were clearly only for the purpose of getting old time fans who were disgruntled with the current state of Castlevania on Cox's side from an early point through weaving lies about "going back to roots" and all that.
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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2012, 07:15:33 PM »
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I think it was less about wooing disgruntled old fans and more about tricking people into thinking the MGS team would be doing Castlevania, when really it was a couple pointers about faces.

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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2012, 09:11:11 PM »
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I thought it was pretty cool that he interacted on here for a short time, although Konami might have had different opinions, since we haven't seen a trace of him since. But then I didn't like the misleading words about QTEs (his decision or not). And I thought his reactions to the harsher, yet still good reviews of LoS (like IGN's, was it?) were somewhat childish.

I'm pretty neutral to him overall, I guess.

And right now, he's the only person in any way affiliated with Konami who's willing to throw us some fuggin' news or hints of things to come once in a while. That in itself I can appreciate.


The exception here would be Hideo Kojima, because I think it's common knowledge that he wasn't involved with LoS in much of a worthwhile manner, and was only listed as being a part of its development to help legitimize the game in the eyes of the audience. Another shameless, stupid, and empty tactic by Konami, much like the Super Castlevania IV statements, which were clearly only for the purpose of getting old time fans who were disgruntled with the current state of Castlevania on Cox's side from an early point through weaving lies about "going back to roots" and all that.

Even though it's been denied by MS as far as I remember, I still wonder if Kojima had anything to do with the twist ending. Probably not, but then again, I wouldn't be surprised if he did.

But yeah, I did hate that it almost seemed like Kojima's involvement was only for pure publicity, especially in absence of any kind of real promotion of the game. Just speculation on my part, but that's how it comes across.
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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2012, 09:17:17 PM »
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I think it was less about wooing disgruntled old fans and more about tricking people into thinking the MGS team would be doing Castlevania, when really it was a couple pointers about faces.

You may have misunderstood me. I think having Hideo Kojima around was to trick people into thinking the MGS team would be doing something of worth with LoS, but I think Cox's Super Castlevania IV statements were meant to get people who like the old games behind him. I'm not sure why else one would fervently bring out that Super Castlevania IV is an inspiration in interviews, especially when it's untrue, or at least certainly seems that way.

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I thought it was pretty cool that he interacted on here for a short time, although Konami might have had different opinions, since we haven't seen a trace of him since.

I think we don't see him anymore because he gets too much dissent from the fanbase.
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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2012, 09:38:44 PM »
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And right now, he's the only person in any way affiliated with Konami who's willing to throw us some fuggin' news or hints of things to come once in a while. That in itself I can appreciate.

to me it looks like he's mostly just retweeting the tiniest praise aimed in LOS direction to a bunch of followers who are probably already in love with his game and in no need of convincing. Useless really, I've seen other game developers use twitter to seek feedback from their followers & help steer their games direction but then doing that would be completely out of character for Mercury steam since it would suggest they actually give a damn about the fans.
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Re: What do you think of Cox-sama?
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2012, 10:59:20 PM »
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He's still the only person from Konami who has acknowledged and wished Castlevania a happy 25th anniversary at all, that alone is worth alot, IMO.
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