Topic: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way

[Nagumo]

While it can be argued how much of a major change for the series this was, the post Rondo games are different in several aspects. Those games were not considered to be spin-offs either. There are fans (most members of this forum) who both like these games and the ones that came before and they did not react negatively to the changes they brought. Doesn't that already prove we can handle change? Lords introduced more change but so what? Nobody would have cared if they actually liked them.       

[DragonSlayr81]

While it can be argued how much of a major change for the series this was, the post Rondo games are different in several aspects. Those games were not considered to be spin-offs either. There are fans (most members of this forum) who both like these games and the ones that came before and they did not react negatively to the changes they brought. Doesn't that already prove we can handle change? Lords introduced more change but so what? Nobody would cared if they actually liked them.     

I think the concept of "reboot" did more damage than the change. Had LoS been set in the classic canon, I think it would've been easier to swallow as a sequel. It seems, generally, easier to write off bad sequels than bad reboots(not saying LoS is bad, but just generalizing how people react to reboots versus sequels). People are more critical of reboots because it lacks that previous canon connection and tries to establish a new version of the franchise. People love their old worlds. They love to know that so-and-so character they fell in love with existed in the same world that so-and-so is living 500 years later. They like to know that the events they experienced are worthy of existence. Overreacting, maybe, but that's how some feel. It's similar to those who rally for Legends and Sonia Belmont. I might not feel as strongly on the subject as they do, but I can acknowledge their right to feel like they do. They believe Legends and Sonia are WORTHY of existence within IGA's canon. That they should exist within the same world as the other CV games.

I do think people would find it easier to swallow if LoS took place SOMEWHRE in the original canon. And of course, Cox's "Forget everything you know about Castlevania." didn't really help. It was like salt on a wound. 

[Neobelmont]

Man, just rewatching this again.

Castlevania Lords of Shadow - Hideo Kojima Special Trailer

That was freaking good. When I saw that for the first time I was like I am in for a ride. Till the end it just looked so awesome.

[Flame]

Im really not so sure we've seen the last of the original timeline, I really somehow doubt it. It will pop back up eventually one way or another.

Especially once MS finishes it's Castlevania series and Konami has to again decide what to do. (perhaps do another thing where all their branches pitch something.)

[Munchy]

Especially once MS finishes it's Castlevania series and Konami has to again decide what to do. (perhaps do another thing where all their branches pitch something.)

They should hand the series to either WayForward or Platinum Games for a spin. But that would make sense (and the big money is strictly prohibited from funding anything without the words "Metal" or "Gear" in the title), so Konami will never do that and instead have them make something absolutely no one asked for. Such as, say, an FPS wherein you horrifically murder your favorite Hudson Soft characters, or a lame-ass multiplayer action Silent Hill (OH WAIT).

[Ahasverus]

Don't hold your breath.
I have the strong feeling that MS will held the series for a looong time, or if not them, Cox (not saying they won't develop something else, think of them as Sony Santa Monica).
I honestly don't think it will return to japanease hands. Like never. Ever. (Not the Akumajo series but the new "Castlevania" one)

[crisis]

Cox has been working on Castlevania since at least Symphony, mostly behind the scenes work

I don't know about Japanease hands but I'm sure KoJ will develop a new game at some point, and I honestly think they wouldn't want anything to do with MS' vision of Castlevania anyway.

[Ahasverus]

Cox has been working on Castlevania since at least Symphony, mostly behind the scenes work

Not even since Symphony but Castlevania X6000, the man's a veteran.

and I honestly think they wouldn't want anything to do with MS' vision of Castlevania anyway.

It would lose the japanese charm, so i'm glad Castlevania remains in western developers and Akumajou in eastern ones.








Off-Topic: Man, the Respect system is broken, I didn't say anything offensive in my above post (or like, in many posts) and when you get a -1 (better translated as Disagree) it lowers your RESPECT bar, so if you have an unpopular but still valid and inoffensive opinion it stills lowers your RESPECT, it just.. does not compute. What about an Agree/Disagree Button? And let that not have anything related to personal stats? Just my two cents.

[Flame]

Not too fond of the Respect system myself. because then the people with unpopular opinions, be they valid or not, have a huge negative rep.

It's really just an "agree/disagree" button, that. I agree, there should be some kind of +1/-1 button but have it not affect personal stats. so you could have a post with a -15, but the person wont have a big -15 under their name.

It just feels... I dunno. Childish? I DISAGREE BUT HAVE NO COUNTER ARGUMENT SO I'LL JUST -1 YOUR REP.

Also, this splitting of Akumajo Dracula and Castlevania as two separate things is just silly to me.

[Ahasverus]

Also, this splitting of Akumajo Dracula and Castlevania as two separate things is just silly to me.

God knows it is, but say that to Konami

I think we all pretty much agree in that Lords of Shadow could have been the prequel to Lament with two or three retconnings here and there, and it wouldn't have many big problems with the old canon (And then having the sequels being reimaginings of the old series), but then creative freeedom and blah blah blah...

[Flame]

Ehhh, LoS would need a complete plot overhaul to be Lament's prequel.

[Nagumo]

Perhaps it's better to just have the option to like a post? Then you don't have this situation where certain people are tanking disrepect. Though personally I only give disrespect when I think somebody is acting dumb not because of their opinion.

[Sumac]

I think the concept of "reboot" did more damage than the change. Had LoS been set in the classic canon, I think it would've been easier to swallow as a sequel.

I am afraid, that if LOS (as it is now) was set in the old canon, fans went mad with rage because it would be very different from old canon atmosphere and style. Since it is separate continuty it is easier to stomach that it is very different from the past Castlevania. At least for me.

It is just a Castlevania game on its own without ties to anything, so to speak. Also, since I am not big fan of latest IGA's entries in the series, I don't appreciate the possibility of LOS using story elements established during IGA's tenure over the series. And besides, LOS would be very limited to what it could do with the story, without retconing whole amount of different stuff, effectively ruining old canon. Given that it would be much easier to create a separate storyline / universe, rather than go through the effort of changing already established stuff, I personally think that LOS did a right thing, when it is tried to separate iself form the old timeline.

Not too fond of the Respect system myself. because then the people with unpopular opinions, be they valid or not, have a huge negative rep.

I think some people abuse rep. system just to vote against people who they dislike, rather than "wrong / bad" opinions. I don't think that is the right aproach to the forum business.

[beingthehero]

Cox-kun wasn't a staff member for the X68000 version of Castlevania. He was only involved in the European distribution of Castlevania Chronicles.

[Profbeanburrito]

Don't know if anyone saw this, not that it's much, but Cox on his twitter earlier said that if his soccer team, I think, won a championship he'd change his profile pic to something new. And so now it's a wolfs face. I can only guess this is something from the sequel. Let the speculation begin