Topic: "If Koji Igarashi Is Tim Burton, Dave Cox Says He’s Christopher Nolan"

[Sumac]

The "Burton Castlevania" managed to thrown in a balance between quirky humour and srs bsns.

IGAvanias has nothing on Burton style. Absolutely nothing.
And even then his games were mostly serious, with occasional quirky stuff, that I don't think could be qualified as "50% of the game being humorous / ironic". DOS and POR are obviously execeptions - no balance whatsoever in them at all.

[A-Yty]

I'm not claiming IGA has anything to do with Burton. Nor does Cox have anything to with Nolan. I was referring to that interview.

How seriously are you saying that balance means an exact 50% of srs and 50% funnay? The last time I checked a game doesn't follow a mathematical equation when it comes to being serious and goofing around.

The odd little tidbits were scattered around to be found; rubber duckies and hot dogs and stuff like that. Subtle things, that didn't stick out like a worn-out Internet meme. That is what I mean when I say balance.

[Ahasverus]

That bit about Legacy of Kain was.. I dunno, innapropiate, LoK has the best written story in the medium let alone the Vampire lore, and their gameplay is a lot more focused on upgrading and puzzles, and of course, it's a lot more depressing (but intriguing) tale. If he meant that gabriel = kain, now that's something logical and something I would like to see (Kain motives were valid even with questionable actions) but I still feel that analogy was somewhat out of place

[Kingshango]

If Cox meant that Gabriel is similar to Kain gameplay wise like blood sucking and such, then I can understand the comparison. But if he meant by overall story then as a LOK fan, I find that comparison offensive cause the story in the LOK games run  several laps all around Lords of Shadow's story. Hell it runs laps around most stories in any type of media today. To make that type of comparison would have to mean that a better story   in Lords of Shadow 2 that rivals that of LOK, but with the same writers doing Lords of Shadow 2, I don't see that happening at all.

[Neobelmont]

Not going to lie. I have never played a Legacy of Kain title how good are they and where should I start if I were to begin the series are the games expensive I want physicals copies not digital and what is so special about the story in other words enlighten me. I recall the first being overhead am I correct? That's all I know.

[knightmere]

LoK games are vastly overrated. The only one that was any good was Soul Reaver.

[Johnny Alucard]

Igarashi isn't Tim Burton, he's Joel Schumacher.

[Flame]

Igarashi isn't Tim Burton, he's Joel Schumacher.

Only when he makes sequels.

[thernz]

but tim burton is only half-decent

[Ratty]

Interesting analogy, but not really valid imo. As the main thing that defines Nolan's Batman movies against Burton's is that they have been more consistent.
Batman 89 was a Batman movie made by Tim Burton, Returns was a Tim Burton movie that happened to have Batman, Catwoman and a drastically altered Burtonization of the Penguin in it.
Whereas Nolan's films have obviously flowed from a single, cohesive and consistently high quality creative vision.
With only one game under their belt and a few on the way for vastly different platforms it's a bit early for Cox and co. to be touting a lot of Nolan comparisons.

Also Tim Burton is overrated these days, he's been on a downhill slide since "Planet of the Apes" like a decade ago. And even back in the day, least we forget, he was going to have Nicholas Cage be a long haired, flightless, emo goth Superman.
Superman Lives Suit
Also old but relevant.
Tim Burton's Secret Formula
IGA and his staff probably DID feel like this at times with the crazy development schedule they had there for a while.

PS- At the same time, Nolan gets cut a lot of extra slack because he's the current incarnation and a lot of casual fans are always going to think whatever is newest is automatically best. And because of Heath Ledger's death. Don't get me wrong his Batman movies are good but they're not godly or perfect. And serious critical analysis by the fan community will probably take several years after the last one comes out to become more common.

[Neobelmont]

but tim burton is only half-decent

Like IGA.


WHOOPS DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD

 

[DragonSlayr81]

PS- At the same time, Nolan gets cut a lot of extra slack because he's the current incarnation and a lot of casual fans are always going to think whatever is newest is automatically best. And because of Heath Ledger's death. Don't get me wrong his Batman movies are good but they're not godly or perfect. And serious critical analysis by the fan community will probably take several years after the last one comes out to become more common.

I have to agree with this one, and there's a lot of this problem, generally with EVERYTHING. The whole "newest is automatically the best" is used to justify basically any reboot trumping originals by default. Music's better now than it was any and every decade BEFORE now, stories are better now than any and every decade before now, movies are better, humanity, as a whole, is more evolved.... yadda yadda. Come ten years from now, people are going to be picking the these decades apart, every flaw at a time, and ranting about how they don't matter because they aren't the "now". It's kinda strange that way. I mean, though that seems to be the consistency of trend. What's hot "now" is all that matters, and when trends turn, you have to drop all your "likes" on a dime just so you can stay "hip", less you want people to say you are afraid of change, blinded by nostalgia or that you hold on to the past. But yeah, I've mentioned this before, I've never been into trend just for the sake of being cool. If there's something I like, I like it, trendy or not. And frankly, I have no problem with that. It's other people that have the problem.

[thernz]

Like IGA.

no iga is a delicate flower

[beingthehero]

Like thernz...

[Maedhros]

Like Nolan, LoS will end with a trilogy.

Except I tought Batman was actually good.