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Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« on: September 18, 2012, 09:52:30 AM »
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Suppress the bile and profanity for ten minutes and try to view him as a guy who NEEDS to succeed for the sake of the industry.

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Should we demand better? Yes. And eventually, there will be a movie based on a video game that stands on its own merits as a film, that even critics will take seriously. But for that to happen, first Hollywood has to believe there’s money in it.

Like it or not, Anderson is going to be the pair of shoulders that boosts that director up, the one making the movies that earn the money that get the attention of the executives and make that future critical and commercial hit possible.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 10:23:06 AM »
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Ok.

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 11:03:31 AM »
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Ok, something happened because the title of this article now is "Four" Reasons, not "Five", someone can say which one of the reasons they removed?
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Re: Five Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 11:08:56 AM »
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Odd, but there was a bit about how he usually made a lot of his movies at a financial risk to himself.

In any case, topic title updated.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 11:22:15 AM »
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Odd, but there was a bit about how he usually made a lot of his movies at a financial risk to himself.

In any case, topic title updated.

If even these guys that are trying to defend him cant hold these 5 reasons, thats seems very bad.
But we can say that he is a magician, since nobody likes his movies but he ever manage to do a sequel.
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Re: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2012, 11:27:22 AM »
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soo pretty much

1. He's made a couple decent movies before

2. He's aware of CV and might have played a couple games (though that's stretching it)

3. He likes fans (but likes money more)

4. He's the "best" director when it comes to vg movies


c'mon guys, he's a nice guy, i'm sure he's never been convicted of anything or hurt anybody physically, lets cut him some slack

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Re: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2012, 01:03:15 PM »
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Ironically, I think this article already gives him too much credit. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Which kind of fits with the quality of his movies.

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Re: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2012, 02:17:28 PM »
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They're not Inception. They're not Plan 9 From Outer Space. They're more like Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

Was that basically what you were saying, Nagumo.
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Re: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2012, 03:50:24 PM »
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Suppress the bile and profanity for ten minutes and try to view him as a guy who NEEDS to succeed for the sake of the industry.

No.

As a Resident Evil fan just below being a Castlevania fan, just 1,000 different shades of no. I give him no credit. (except for what he did with Mortal Kombat) He might not be Uwe Boll, but he made me detest him with what I was hoping would be a serious take on video game movies that ended up turning into one big love-letter to his wife.

No.

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Re: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2012, 10:04:33 PM »
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No.

As a Resident Evil fan just below being a Castlevania fan, just 1,000 different shades of no. I give him no credit. (except for what he did with Mortal Kombat) He might not be Uwe Boll, but he made me detest him with what I was hoping would be a serious take on video game movies that ended up turning into one big love-letter to his wife.

No.

Ditto. I understand he loves his wife, I understand he wants to please her, I understand he wants to show his devotion to her but shoe-horning her into every single fucking movie and turning into a Mary Sue that usurps the main characters is just a giant dick-slap in our face. She's sexy, she's awesome, and she loves these roles. We get it. It's not going to get you dumped to the couch to leave her out of something for once.
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Re: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2012, 10:21:36 PM »
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No.

As a Resident Evil fan just below being a Castlevania fan, just 1,000 different shades of no. I give him no credit. (except for what he did with Mortal Kombat) He might not be Uwe Boll, but he made me detest him with what I was hoping would be a serious take on video game movies that ended up turning into one big love-letter to his wife.

No.

As usual I have to agree 100% with Sindra's assessment.
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Re: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2012, 11:35:20 PM »
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Despite the fact that Sindra posts fairly infrequent, every time she posts she gains so many Respect points she is on par with the regular posters. Gotta love it.

I have to say I share the same sort of sentiment. Honestly, think about what he said too. He is using bad game movies as a profit platform, and waiting for the right moment? Really? How many YEARS is it going to take? It wont happen with him, because that's not his true goal. Only part of that statement is true, in that hes using it to create a profit.

If any director/producer/writer/what have you was serious about creating a good adaptation from games to film, they should look at the blindingly superior adaptations that are widely accessible already; Anime. Compare if you will the difference between Street Fighter II the animated movie, and the live action one. Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie is probably my favorite game adaptation, if not one of my favorite movies of all time. I can literally watch it almost any time spontaneously and enjoy it thoroughly every time. How can you not at least do half as good, with a budget that is likely eight times as big? Even worse, they were released in the same year. How could you be so out classed?

While not a direct example of his work, it conveys the industry wide attitude of neglect, unwillingness to accept the source material as valuable and worthwhile, and the lack of common decent respect that would be required to properly transform a game into a proper film. The Japanese seem to have zero trouble carrying this out with much greater disadvantages on their side. How is it that Hollywood has failed so much?
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Re: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2012, 01:39:09 AM »
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Despite the fact that Sindra posts fairly infrequent, every time she posts she gains so many Respect points she is on par with the regular posters. Gotta love it.

I have to say I share the same sort of sentiment. Honestly, think about what he said too. He is using bad game movies as a profit platform, and waiting for the right moment? Really? How many YEARS is it going to take? It wont happen with him, because that's not his true goal. Only part of that statement is true, in that hes using it to create a profit.

If any director/producer/writer/what have you was serious about creating a good adaptation from games to film, they should look at the blindingly superior adaptations that are widely accessible already; Anime. Compare if you will the difference between Street Fighter II the animated movie, and the live action one. Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie is probably my favorite game adaptation, if not one of my favorite movies of all time. I can literally watch it almost any time spontaneously and enjoy it thoroughly every time. How can you not at least do half as good, with a budget that is likely eight times as big? Even worse, they were released in the same year. How could you be so out classed?

While not a direct example of his work, it conveys the industry wide attitude of neglect, unwillingness to accept the source material as valuable and worthwhile, and the lack of common decent respect that would be required to properly transform a game into a proper film. The Japanese seem to have zero trouble carrying this out with much greater disadvantages on their side. How is it that Hollywood has failed so much?

When I read this the first thing to come to my mind about japan is that well... any one remember dragonball evolution? If you do not that is okay, but if you do look at this

『RUROUNI KENSHIN』 Trailer2 (English)


Also anyone remember the live action Phoenix Wright movie

Epic Objection Fail

[English Sub] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trailer


Gyakuten Saiban 逆転裁判 Ace Attorney Trailer 2 予告篇2
A bit different, but it seems to still have that "Wright" sense for the games I guess never played too much if it.
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Come on now this was going to happen eventually  :P

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Re: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2012, 04:45:38 AM »
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No.

As a Resident Evil fan just below being a Castlevania fan, just 1,000 different shades of no. I give him no credit. (except for what he did with Mortal Kombat) He might not be Uwe Boll, but he made me detest him with what I was hoping would be a serious take on video game movies that ended up turning into one big love-letter to his wife.

No.

This.

I love me some terrible movies, but really, there is no need in "the industry" that Anderson fills. None. There are plenty of other shit movies that do what he does but in a way that is actually entertaining. If he were to retire from movies, there would just be someone else in his place to coil turds onto a film reel.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2012, 10:20:57 AM »
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I've never played Ace Attorney, but that movie looks hilarious.

Maybe this is a horrible idea, but I thought it might be an interesting idea to give a Castlevania movie the same "feel" as the adaptation of Scott Pilgrim, but with a gothic horror flavor. I really liked how they did all the fighting scenes. Of course it should be less "in your face", but I think that would also help build more of a connection with the games instead of just shallow references to them that nobody cares about.   

To elaborate, I think if they would do this, it would also make the film interesting on its own merits. Also, most video game movies fail (I think) because they take ideas from games and try to rationalize them or try making them more "realistic" and it just comes of as stupid. Why not fully embrace the concept of literary making a video game movie? That would be pretty creative and seems more fun than a Van Helsing knock-off that takes itself to seriously.           
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