Topic: Future PS4 and 720 owners give this a look....

[Inccubus]

RUMOR: Kotaku reported that the next Xbox will require an Internet connection to boot games. If no Internet connection, no games or apps can be started; if the connect is interrupted after a period of time, say 3 minutes, the game/app is suspended and the network troubleshooter starts. Also, the prototype controller is covered in stripes to prevent developers leaking images online, since Microsoft can track down the leak source.

Yeah. No.
Microsoft: "How about requiring them to have internet?"
Them: "How about fuck you, Microsoft?"

[Kingshango]

Yeah I think it's gone beyond "rumor and speculation", now it's pretty much all but officially confirmed at this point.

I'd go into details but I'll just let this Neogaf thread do all the explaining (if you haven't seen it already)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=534951

[Abnormal Freak]

Honest Opinion on Xbox "Always Online" requirement

Preach it, boogie!

[Lelygax]

Good to know that Microsoft have written a formal letter saying that they are abandoning the console market. Seriously, this guy think that we live in the Megaman Battle Network universe or what?

[VladCT]

Welp, better put on my pom-poms for the hackers.

[Inccubus]

Hitler hears about Adam Orth and the "always online" new Xbox

[Lelygax]

This joke never gets old for me xD

[X]

The big guy forgot to mention, and to me this is wholly the most important thing, is that the new XBOX should not have within it, at all, the "Big Brother" security system. It's supposed to be a gaming console. My bro has pretty much sworn off on getting it due to this very issue and not just the always online thing either. And with the way Microshaft and their X'security'BOX is going, that will leave the consumer market flocking to the PS4. At this point in time, SONY's future looks bright while Microshaft's looks very bleak and dank.

[JR]

I don't know...I could see a lot of people still buying the new Xbox despite nothing but bad news coming from it so far. I'm guessing a lot of people either won't hear about this stuff or won't care. I'm really hoping it's not the case, because I'm just tired of this shit. A lot of stuff like this, the recent SimCity fiasco, etc., just give me the impression that the a huge part of the gaming industry just treats its customers with utter contempt and disregard these days.

I don't often buy games brand new, and if prices go up again, I see myself doing so even less. I'll give money to developers and publishers I fully support, but I'm so sick of the gaming industry making us prove our loyalty (through DRM, season passes, etc.), and giving us a less-than-quality product in return.

 

[Shiroi Koumori]

That is how businesses move these days.
It's all about the money and not about consumer satisfaction.

[DragonSlayr81]

That is how businesses move these days.
It's all about the money and not about consumer satisfaction.

I fail to see the logic in such practices. Businesses are only businesses because of their consumers. Loosing consumers means loosing money. Businesses' main goals is to earn money by providing consumers with a service(in this case, developing games and consoles that have enough appeal to interest consumers). It's almost like businesses have gotten so lost in their own hubris, they've forgotten what it means to be a business. It IS almost like the cartoonish depictions of "huge faceless corporations" where the board meetings feature a bunch of shark faced executives talking about how consumers don't make them, but THEY make consumers, laughing maniacally and lighting their cigars with burning hundred dollar bills.

It really is one of those occassions where some of these companies REALLY need to be taken down a notch or two. And, when ever I bring up this, someone's quick to say, "But you should never wish something like that to happen, because it would mean more lost jobs...", but, it's really a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. At the state we are in, it will probably be worse off. If something could have a dramatic effect to actually change the industry's ways, that would actually be beneficial to those looking for jobs in the industry. Sometimes you need to free that stranglehold to opening it up for everyone else. Sometimes you need to make sacrifices if it leads to a new better and brighter future.

[Shiroi Koumori]

It really is one of those occassions where some of these companies REALLY need to be taken down a notch or two. And, when ever I bring up this, someone's quick to say, "But you should never wish something like that to happen, because it would mean more lost jobs...", but, it's really a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. At the state we are in, it will probably be worse off. If something could have a dramatic effect to actually change the industry's ways, that would actually be beneficial to those looking for jobs in the industry. Sometimes you need to free that stranglehold to opening it up for everyone else. Sometimes you need to make sacrifices if it leads to a new better and brighter future.

The economy is always renewing itself. Old skills and jobs are replaced by newer ones.
However, there are instances that the people on top prevent this from happening and stick to their old ways with the lame excuse as you said above. That is made worse by an aging population.

[son_the_vampire]

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/04/sony_thought_long_and_hard_over_ps4s_lack_of_backward_compatibility
In all fairness, this really made me sick... knowing what the people crave and yet not supporting it because "it will cause future problems". I feel that the need for more development in gaming isnt the issue, rather the replay value of current console games. I would love to end some of those games that seem to take forever. Instead of supporting us trophy hunters in the games we currently are playing, we get more games to pile on the list. Put the chip in there... its not like the lifespan of these things matters as there is always a newer model in production. For brand new console owners, it wouldnt be an issue but if you have supported one platform for years on end (sony) then return the favor ::: end rant:::

[Belmontoya]

Microsoft has been ripping off their customers from the beginning. They sell their system for $100 cheaper so people who can't do math will think that their getting a better deal than a PS3. Then after 2 years of xbox live fees you've already paid over that $100 difference, and I think it's safe to say that we all use our online networks for more than 2 years.

I had a 360 and got rid of it because I was disgusted with how microsoft charges people for an online network that doesn't even offer dedicated servers. I remember playing Halo Reach which was still using hosts for it's online matches (the same way they were doing with halo 2) and getting all kinds of lag and dropped matches with only 8 to 16 players. Then I would sign on to PSN and play Killzone 3 or MAG and it runs perfectly with more than twice the amount of players in Killzone and 200 something players in MAG.

It's ridiculous to me that people choose that console for fps games and even online games in general. Microsoft has been holding online gaming back just to make a profit.

They say the 360 sold better than the PS3, but that's because almost everyone that ones one had to buy it twice.

[Lelygax]

Montoya, thats exactly why I didnt have got a 360, I like to play online without needing to pay. I think that if anyone deserves my money when I play online, its the game creators, not Microsoft.

To say the truth, here in Brazil a lot of people buy 360 only because they dont play online and mainly because they use pirated games.