Topic: I want to know why is

[Ratty]

Guys, I've not read this topic. But let's suppose Skycaptain is a troll, why are we feeding him? As the old saying goes "Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink." he's entitled to have it, we're entitled to disagree. After 5 pages it's obvious neither side is going to be swayed in this discussion, so why continue?

[Skycaptain Steampunk]

i don't write igarashi because the leader sayed it hurt fans, i writed because they writed other forums like gamefaqs, and in other forums the igarashis fanboys ruined me, now i dont want this to hapen again here, i make peace will all people.

[Skycaptain Steampunk]

and i am not one troll i am very man, i never sayed gay again so not ruding to me now, i make peace.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

i don't write igarashi because the leader sayed it hurt fans, i writed because they writed other forums like gamefaqs, and in other forums the igarashis fanboys ruined me, now i dont want this to hapen again here, i make peace will all people.

Language barrier or not, I believe you know that your words aren't "making peace" when you call people "igarashi fanboys" and say people hate spain.

and I doubt Jorge sayed his feelings where hurt lol

and i am not one troll i am very man, i never sayed gay again so not ruding to me now, i make peace.

If you trully want to make peace than stop shoving your ideals down other peoples throats and try to at least understand the very fact that people do not look at things the same way as you and that does not make them anymore wrong than you.

Tone down on the fanatical Cox loving and needless Iga bashing a couple notches and then we may start to believe your trully trying to "make peace".

[Ratty]

and i am not one troll i am very man, i never sayed gay again so not ruding to me now, i make peace.

If you want to make peace then I suggest you quit bringing up Lords of Shadow/Mercury Steam/Cox at every opportunity, especially don't bring it up in unrelated topics as that would be trolling, even if unintentionally. People are aware of your feelings on the subject, you don't need to restate them. Also some use of punctuation and capitalization will help you. If you are learning English, phrasing and spelling errors are understandable, but every sentence should start with a capital letter and end with a period or question or exclamation mark where appropriot. Using proper punctuation demonstrates respect for the people with whom you are communicating. It's understandable and common to omit these things in a chatroom, but a messageboard allows you the extra time to express your thoughts carefully. And if you're not demonstrating to your audience that you took the time to make your comment properly, they'll wonder why they should take the time to read it.

Also, needless to say, people will hold you to the promise to no longer use the term gay in a deragatory manner or to make wild accusations about bigotry against Spain just because they don't like a video game made there. I hate Final Fantasy 7, that doesn't mean I hate Japan or even jRPGs/the Final Fantasy series. Or that all the fans of that game are in a conspiracy against me, it's just a matter of opinion and taste.

[jestercolony]

Can't we just ban the guy and get it over with?

[Lelygax]

No, he deserve more chances IMO.

[GuyStarwind]

Yeah it might be time for Jorge to step in and deal with this. He's made his point and we've made our point and as mentioned by Ratty this isn't going anywhere.

[Lelygax]

So the more appropriate thing to do is close this topic I think. He understood our point and we understand his point.

[TheouAegis]

Just need a thread lock. If he reopens the topic, that'd be grounds for a ban. But this-- this is just grounds for a thread lock. I'd hate to see him go. He's kinda cute the more I read his posts. He's like the little Vietnamese guy in your workplace or at the grocery store. You think, "Man, this guy is annoying. And his English is so bad it's funny!" But then one day you go to your work or to the store and the little Vietnamese guy isn't there and suddenly you're sad that he's not there anymore. Everyone makes fun of him -- even you -- because he's not there so his feelings won't get hurt, but all the while you're still inwardly sad because you secretly miss the little annoying Vietnamese guy with the funny English.

Granted, this guy's Spanish and not as cute, but the idea still fits.

(I used to work with a little Viet guy and his FUCKING HOT VIET WIFE, but I quit that job and miss them -- even after three years.)

WTF someone downvoted Lelygax for saying to give Steampunk a chance to redeem himself? Man, there be some haters on tonight.

[Ratty]

Just need a thread lock. If he reopens the topic, that'd be grounds for a ban. But this-- this is just grounds for a thread lock. I'd hate to see him go. He's kinda cute the more I read his posts. He's like the little Vietnamese guy in your workplace or at the grocery store. You think, "Man, this guy is annoying. And his English is so bad it's funny!" But then one day you go to your work or to the store and the little Vietnamese guy isn't there and suddenly you're sad that he's not there anymore. Everyone makes fun of him -- even you -- because he's not there so his feelings won't get hurt, but all the while you're still inwardly sad because you secretly miss the little annoying Vietnamese guy with the funny English.

Granted, this guy's Spanish and not as cute, but the idea still fits.

(I used to work with a little Viet guy and his FUCKING HOT VIET WIFE, but I quit that job and miss them -- even after three years.)

WTF someone downvoted Lelygax for saying to give Steampunk a chance to redeem himself? Man, there be some haters on tonight.

Now there's no need to be rude or belittling. If we're going to ask him to be respectful of us, we should earn it by being respectful ourselves.

From what I gather and giving the benefit of the doubt to Skycaptain the situation is this.
He is from Spain and is rather happy that a studio from his country produced these games which he likes. People on gamefaqs and/or some other place trolled him and put down these games, his country and Patriotic feelings, possibly while saying things like "It can't be Castlevania unless it's from Japan!" So when he came here he was defensive about this and made a lot of assumptions. He feels very strongly that the Mercury Steam games are the best in the series which is an unpopular opinion in the hardcore Castlevania fandom as we know. So when he tries to express this unpopular opinion with a lack of subtlety which is probably at least partly due to the language barrier, many old school fans like ourselves view it as a personal attack.

Extending an example from earlier. It's sort of like if I were to register on a Final Fantasy 7 board and talk about why I don't like that game, I feel my reasons to dislike it are valid but the members there would view it as trolling and rightly so. But it's not my job to rain on anyone's parade, and Skycaptain, again giving him the benefit of the doubt, might not be trying to rain on anyone's parade either. He may just want to talk about these games he loves and has only found scorn in the few communities that really care about them still this long after their release. Again it's a bit like if I really wanted to talk about FF8 and thought it was so much better than 7, but all that was available were boards devoted to FF7 in another language.

[Flame]

Castlevania isn't a horror game, it's a horror parody, an homage to horror movies. That's one place Cox messed up big time.

If that's the case, that train derailed back when Rondo Came out, and turned it more into an anime about Belmonts Vs Dracula. Sure, it still had a few of the classic creatures, (particularly the Shaft boss rush) but for the most part, it sort of strayed from the Monster Mash Universal Studios Horror parody. Bloodlines continued that, and instead tied the franchise to the original novel. From there, Symphony of the Night took that and since then it's stopped being that. (This is not counting all the CV1 remakes, which mostly tend to retain that kind of movie feel, complete with Chronicles grainy movie thing in the intro.)

LoS is actually far closer to the movie type origins than one might think. Criticize what you want about it being too much like a modern blockbuster movie, but I think that was kind of the point. It sort of took that movie idea that early CV games had, and evolved it to modern standards. Instead of the cheesy B Horror movie parody, it's more a Modern Blockbuster horror/action movie parody. Of, y'know, movies like Van Helsing. >_>

[e105beta]

If that's the case, that train derailed back when Rondo Came out, and turned it more into an anime about Belmonts Vs Dracula. Sure, it still had a few of the classic creatures, (particularly the Shaft boss rush) but for the most part, it sort of strayed from the Monster Mash Universal Studios Horror parody. Bloodlines continued that, and instead tied the franchise to the original novel. From there, Symphony of the Night took that and since then it's stopped being that. (This is not counting all the CV1 remakes, which mostly tend to retain that kind of movie feel, complete with Chronicles grainy movie thing in the intro.)

LoS is actually far closer to the movie type origins than one might think. Criticize what you want about it being too much like a modern blockbuster movie, but I think that was kind of the point. It sort of took that movie idea that early CV games had, and evolved it to modern standards. Instead of the cheesy B Horror movie parody, it's more a Modern Blockbuster horror/action movie parody. Of, y'know, movies like Van Helsing. >_>

That's what it is!





It's small, but I knew Lords of Shadow was giving me a movie feeling for a reason. It's framed like one, right down to the slightly shaky camera.

(If anybody wants to know, that's from Coppola's 1992 film "Dracula")

[crisis]

Lords of Shadows replaces the Hollywood big budget movie directed by Paul W.S. Anderson we never got, and that's a blessing

[Lelygax]

At first I thought that the first screenshot was from the game too. xD