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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2013, 02:08:33 AM »
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How easy is that to say though?

Economy was better, and gaming prices seemed lower from now, but adjusting for inflation and all that...

Not to my country. He that could afford a console, let an original copy of a game, must be was rich. I had a psx, but i couldn't afford to buy an original game, so i was renting them or i was buying a copy that it was still expensive. Also piracy was a big factor in poor sales back then.
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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2013, 08:24:56 AM »
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I would have to agree with Dark Nemesis.
Psx games were easy to burn on cds. And way back then not a lot of people can afford to spend money on games.

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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2013, 09:35:05 AM »
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It really is weird that LoI was never released for the Game Cube and Xbox. I wonder why it was a PS2 exclusive.
Because Gamecube sold like shit in Japan. XBOX was released much after the game, and after the low sales even on the PS2, there was no reason to release a port of it in other platform.

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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2013, 10:59:02 AM »
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To think I super enjoyed Curse of Darkness back in the day.

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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2013, 11:12:15 AM »
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Because Gamecube sold like shit in Japan.

Whoa what how did that happen? What made it be so poorly received?
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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2013, 11:54:32 AM »
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You've got more people buying games now with more buying options. Don't forget SotN's Saturn port was Japan-only because of the Saturn's extremely short life outside of Japan. (Well, in Japan to but especially outside of it.) And in '97 it was still the case that a lot of gamers were begging their parents for money to buy games. Whereas now the target market for games (outside of the app store/Nintendo) has shifted to a slightly older audience with their own disposable income.

Maybe some kind of Sony deal? After the N64 games, (and SoTN, which was ported to the Saturn in japan) all the console games were on Sony Consoles, with the handhelds on Nintendo handhelds. (Until DXC happened)

Maybe they had some kind of exclusivity deal with Sony that expired some time before Judgement? (as for handhelds, well until the PSP, Nintendo pretty much had the monopoly on handhelds... Then the PSP came out, with actual 3D graphical capability on a handheld)

This would not surprise me, Capcom had such a deal with Sony (and later Nintendo) pertaining to the Resident Evil series after all. It's the reason the real Resident Evil 3 was retitled "Code Veronica" while the spinoff "Nemesis" was re-designated as the 3rd entry. Because Sony had exclusive rights to numbered "main series" games and "Code Veronica" was set to be released on the Dreamcast. (Later updated/expanded into "Code Veronica: X" when ported to the PS2/Gamecube) This might also explain why when making console games for Nintendo during the Wii era Konami chose to make a fighting spinoff and a downloadable remake rather than a bonafide new entry.
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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2013, 01:36:44 PM »
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Whoa what how did that happen? What made it be so poorly received?
PS2 was simply better in terms of games.

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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2013, 11:47:52 PM »
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Whoa what how did that happen? What made it be so poorly received?

Kind of like the n64 and

PS2 was simply better in terms of games.

ps2 had a better library of games think about all those rpgs and action games .
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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2013, 08:07:33 AM »
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Why was the gamecube unpopular? It's pretty obvious.

- It came out last
- Did not play DVDs like the PS2 (probably it's biggest issue)
- Really small library of games, much less good ones
- No backwards compatibility to make up for low library of games, unlike the PS2
- Some people didn't like the wonky controller
- Mario Sunshine was less well received than Mario 64

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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2013, 08:27:56 AM »
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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2013, 10:10:40 AM »
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the gba player was cool. still waiting for a ds player
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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2013, 10:38:02 AM »
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Sony can't have had a full exclusivity deal for console Castlevanias. Curse of Darkness came out for Xbox, and it was the next game right after Lament. Prior to that, there was Chronicles for Playstation, and the two N64 games came out after Symphony.

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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2013, 10:56:09 AM »
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the gba player was cool. still waiting for a ds player
If they can do it ANYWHERE, they can certainly work in a function that allows Wii U to work that way. The controller already has a touchscreen function, imagine playing DoS and using the controller for the sealing? Sure, you won't have the Dual Screen, unless there's a key function where your tv and controller screens act as the dual screens(TV being top, controller functioning as the bottom), and depending on where the action is(and the touch sensitive moments), you can rotate the screens around, flip them(so the controller's screen is on the television and the television is on the controller) to your convenience. Damn, why don't Nintendo jump on this? There's a shit load of DS games I'd love to play on the Wii U. Or hell, even if they get certain companies to do an "updated"(kinda along the lines of the HD versions of PS2 games appearing on PS3, FFX-FFX-2 for instance) versions of their DS games, polished sprites and background art, and arranged music. THAT would rock(playing DoS of OoE and having it look SotN quality).

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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2013, 11:18:16 AM »
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It's true that the Gamecube wasn't a very popular system but it did have some great games. Mine were essentially the Metroid Prime series and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin snakes, which is only available for the gamecube. And I also really enjoyed the gba hook-up system. But I really did not like the controller design. Instead they should have stuck to their guns with a controller similar to the SNES pad. Heck, the classic controller for the Wii is a good example without making it a knock-off of SONY's Play Station controller.
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Re: Cox: "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2013, 03:27:12 PM »
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It doesn't really matter the pros of the Gamecube, the cons made it sell like shit. It was pretty much a niche system. It did have some great games, like Resident Evil 0 and RE:make.

And the worst... Wii U is actually selling even worse than the gamecube.

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