Topic: "...the XBOX ONE, no longer an always be ready and connected console..."

[Ahasverus]

Surprise, now does the same as PS4 at 100$+

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

OOoook look at the backpedaling.
Complete with laying on the compliments real thick.

If it's really that easy to remove it, it may be just as easy to put it back after a clever EULA a few years in.

[beingthehero]

They've already had the awful PR to mar their system up to the launch date and it's still way overpriced to the much more powerful PS4. If this is a war, it's the equivalent of Microsoft shooting both legs off and then crawling to its pistol whilst screaming "OK OK IT WAS A MISTAKE LET'S DO THIS FOR REAL" while Sony is aiming a cannon at them.

[DragonSlayr81]

It's good they are doing this. The more competition, the better. See, Microsoft, Sony, whoever the hell thinks they are "in charge", WE tell you what we want and WE tell you when the future starts. Now that THAT is out of the way, commence the fighting for our adoration!

[chainsawmidget]

Well, if you go by this...

http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/xbox-one/news/1100500.20130522.Microsoft-backpedals-on-Xbox-One-used-game-always-online-statements/

Then signs point to microsoft not knowing what the heck it's actually doing and whether or not it's back peddling anywhere. 

My favorite part is the multiple people stepping forward to say, "anything we told you before is just speculation.  Don't trust any of it." 

[crisis]

I'd rather see Microsoft just humbly bow out of these console wars & make a neat handheld or something. A portable 360 would've been sweet.


Part of me still wishes SEGA kept going strong & the triforce of companies (Sony, Sega, Nintendo) would be in competition once more. That, or Sony & Nintendo join forces like old friends burying the hatchet (they were partners once upon a time) and battle Microsoft

[Kingshango]

It's good they are doing this. The more competition, the better. See, Microsoft, Sony, whoever the hell thinks they are "in charge", WE tell you what we want and WE tell you when the future starts. Now that THAT is out of the way, commence the fighting for our adoration!

That's the best part of all of this, if we hadn't opened our mouths and said "NO TO DRM!" they would have continued on with the used game DRM and such as planned.

 And all those so called "journalist's" on twitter and youtube that said our voices wouldn't be heard and to just take it from behind just got told something fierce. *coughTotalbiscutcough*

[Abnormal Freak]

http://www.warpzoned.com/2013/06/congressmen-propose-we-are-watching-you-act-an-anti-kinect-bill/
lolwut.

Can't tell if satire or a legitimate proposed bill.

It's a little funny that the same folks who support the "Six Strikes" and NSA crap are trying to forbid a device from invading on someone's privacy. I suppose the gubment wants to be the only ones spying?


And if MS really are changing the way the Xbone works, good on them. This is why competition is good because if there were only one option left, they'd basically be able to do whatever they want and they'd make money anyway because they're the "only" option available. I hate MS's involvement in the console market, but if Sony didn't have any direct competitor, they'd undoubtedly in the future make anti-consumer decisions.

[DragonSlayr81]

And if MS really are changing the way the Xbone works, good on them. This is why competition is good because if there were only one option left, they'd basically be able to do whatever they want and they'd make money anyway because they're the "only" option available. I hate MS's involvement in the console market, but if Sony didn't have any direct competitor, they'd undoubtedly in the future make anti-consumer decisions.

A company's place is best suited vying for our dollars via healthy competion(because not only does it keep them on their toes, we get better products because of it), and not by telling US what WE need and how we should allocate OUR lives around their grand agenda and submit as sheep being lead to the slaughter.

I wonder how all those MS sympathizers are doing now? I was reading some of the threads on NeoGAF and there are a few angry because of this. My god, I know opinions can't by wrong, but I'm glad people who think like THAT aren't in any highly influential position of power, and even more glad they are in the minority. If history has taught us, nobody's asking to be lead around by a cold, iron hand of tyranny more than those with the "Let's just not rock the boat and let's best leave well enough alone!". No, sir, we won't. If there's bullshit out there and people are afraid to call it for what it is, you can sure as hell WE won't keep silent!

[Kale]

Well, if you go by this...

http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/xbox-one/news/1100500.20130522.Microsoft-backpedals-on-Xbox-One-used-game-always-online-statements/

Then signs point to microsoft not knowing what the heck it's actually doing and whether or not it's back peddling anywhere. 

My favorite part is the multiple people stepping forward to say, "anything we told you before is just speculation.  Don't trust any of it."

what the cluster fuck is that all about?

[Inccubus]

THAT, right there sounds like they're all fumbling all over themselves working on damage control. They're full of shit. They planned on all of these things and when we found out and the shit hit the fan they weren't ready for it. People didn't end up getting fired over 'speculation'.

[X]

As if they were ever good at damage control *COUGH*WindowsVista*COUGH*

[Flame]

imo, for sega to come back, Microsoft has to leave. the xbox was the spiritual successor to the dreamcast.

realistically though, given the sad story behind how the ceo saved the company from bankruptcy and died shortly... I doubt they'd want to come back

[Renonsgoods]

Keep in mind, that they are STILL pushing the Kinect, and so far, the price is still half a grand.

unless they lower the price and/or adjust the Kinect deal, they are still more or less in the same boat.

I'd be willing to bet that we'll see MS drop a Kinect-less X1 package for $100 less before the end of the first year.  The Kinect was largely needless innovation...I can't believe it survived the 360 to live again on the X1.  I always under the impression that Kinect-tech was a dud sales-wise.  Guess some genius in marketing felt otherwise.

As far as the X1's pricing being a "deal-breaker", let's not forget...the PS3 debuted at the hefty price of $599, yet I highly doubt it stopped anyone in here from picking it up.

Regardless, I don't see any of these PR woes slowing down MS' momentum in the console market.  Pre-orders were already topping that of the PS4 BEFORE MS did its about-face with the X1's connection and rental/used games policies.  Like it or not fellas, it's going to be another tight race....and for anyone who truly claims to be a hard line supporter of the consumerism movement, that's a good thing.  Having one company take the mantle and obliterate all other comers would just end badly for those of us in the gaming hobby, eventually.   

Guess I still don't get the whole console fanboyism deal these days. I get people not liking one company over another, but it baffles me that so many nerd-rage over needing one company to get kicked out of the console race altogether.  At any rate, it won't happen.  Even a slow return on a single console generation doesn't mean that any of these three companies would be going anywhere.  How long has it been since Nintendo held the console crown??? (and they're STILL making consoles).  Might as well get comfy, Xbox is here to stay; and for all those who would never own an MS console to begin with....what does it matter to you?  You still have Nintendo and Sony to donate your "loyalties" to.  As long as there is a choice, we all win...don't we? 

[Inccubus]

As far as the X1's pricing being a "deal-breaker", let's not forget...the PS3 debuted at the hefty price of $599, yet I highly doubt it stopped anyone in here from picking it up.

It sure as hell stopped me.