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The Headcanon Thread
« on: July 12, 2013, 11:28:18 AM »
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Inspired by the "What else do the Belmonts do" thread but on a larger scale. Share how you've tried to fill in the gaps of CV lore, from the inconsequential to the world-shaking.

Mine, to get the ball rolling:

  • The canon ending of Simon's Quest is the middle one, where Simon dies. It's a fittingly heroic end to the legend of Simon Belmont, and would explain why he's revered as the greatest of them all.
  • Juste is Richter's father. Richter had daddy issues (pre-DXC at least) over Juste being a prodigy even in his own badass family.
  • The Hunter Whip of COTM (assuming it's canon, and I'm still not clear on that) was the Church's attempt at replicating the Vampire Killer after the Belmonts' disappearance.
  • Following Quincey Morris' death in the 1897 event, the Harkers had a hand in raising John and may've become second parents to him. That's why he named his own son Jonathan, in much the same way the Harkers named their son Quincey.
  • Jonathan wanted to enlist and fight in the Pacific, both out of patriotism and as a way of defying destiny. Even during POR, a part of him believed he should be out there fighting alongside other boys his age.
  • Aria of Sorrow takes place on September 2 2035, when a real solar eclipse is set to occur and be visible in Japan.

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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2013, 12:05:22 PM »
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  • Alucard & Maria had sex, thus resulting in Eric
  • Mina's father probably died while using the last of his power to seal Castlevania
  • Akumajo Dracula the Arcade takes place sometime during the 1970s
  • Several theories persist as to what happens to the Belmonts between 1797 & 1999. Some say it was Richiter's tainting of the whip, thus it had to be "purified" before they can use it again. Wind specifically says "The Belmonts can't touch the whip until 1999." Nostradamus' prophecy says the "Great King of Terror" will descend from the sky, signifying Dracula will be at his strongest ever. Some think the Belmonts got stuck in a vortex & won't re-emerge until the 20th century. I believe Richiter gave the whip to ___ Morris because upon hearing the prophecy, he needed to ensure the main bloodline won't be cursed as they are prone to succumbing once in a while (Soleiyu), they needed to stay pure & endure rigorous training so when the time comes in 1999, the current Belmont would be the strongest the line has ever produced. Or maybe not. Still a mystery until Konami/IGA gives official explanation!
  • Leon probably met his next wife in a brothel
  • After Grant helped Trevor defeat Dracula & rebuild his hometown, he eventually fulfilled his lifelong dream of becoming a pirate
  • Olrox may be the reborn version of Joachim
  • For some reason Alucard became in debted to the Yakuza
  • Albus could be a descendant of the Kischine's
  • At one point Dracula defeated Galamoth & has dominion over his soul, which is why he wants revenge
  • Dracula & Alucard have blue skin in Dark Night Prelude, because they are cold-blooded, much like ancient paintings of the devil depict him having blue skin

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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2013, 12:32:35 PM »
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Interesting thread!  :)

I can only think of a few at the moment, but maybe I'll add some more later:

  • Elizabeth Bartley is definitely Dracula's niece. Not that there's anything that's claiming otherwise, but I can definitely see them retconning this.
  • Both male and female heirs can inherit and pass on the Belmont name and whip. I just imagine all the female ones were around inbetween the hotshots like Simon, Richter etc.
  • The original Castlevania for NES is the "offical" story of what happend in 1691. All the others are an alternate continuity with a different Simon. Likewise, Rondo is what really happend and DXX is outside the main contiuity. This is more or less supported by IGA, but sadly any offical timeline has yet to reflect this.

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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2013, 01:36:57 PM »
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Hmmm

- The Succubus from LoI is Rinaldo's daughter
- Sonia exists. He's not a mainline Belmont but as Trevor's father dies she becomes the head of the family in her lifetime.
- Mathias IS NOT Dracula (Yeah IGA said he was but whatever) he's a pussy and his love for Elizabetha wouldn't have let him have another woman, the real Dracula kills Mathias and gets it's stone and all of this powers, however that's accidental as he was just a king trying to defend his kingdom from a socerer.
- Death doesn't serve Dracula but Chaos, he's going to cross path some day for him.
- Dracula is not a cartoon evil man, he has a simple mission, the discovery of a way to return people to life, he wants to do that to revive not only hs wife, but himself, and his son. That seems to be impossible, though.
- The monsters are the results of his experiments and his knowledge of magic.
- However he gets more disconected from himself and more of a chaos incarnation with each resurrection.
- Dracula STILL thinks he's the King of Wallachia/Romania, he thinks it's his kingdom's oblgiation to adore him just like in life.
- Alucard, called prince Adrian, was a sick child and actually died, Dracula revived him and his especial blood made him a damphire.
- Lisa, Dracula's ONLY love was a witch but a good one. She was the one who gave Dracula the idea of finding a "cure" so they could live together as simple humans.
- Death is the one that sells Lisa to provoke the coming events.
- Trevor Belmont is a pariah as the Belmont family is feared.
- Grant is the king of pirates and it was a coincidence that he was at the events of CVIII (Actually in Mirror of Fate he gets calle the king of Pirates so thank you Alvarez)
- Alucard is actually "killed" by hunter or a witch. That's why he doesn't appear until SOTN.
- Christopher is a cocky noble man who takes pride in his ancestry.
- Dracula is revived as a wrath in The Adventure, however he gains the ability to gain eternal youth by controlling Soleil (and drinking his blood) that's why subsequent Draculas look so damn young (I'm looking at you, Chronicles one).
- When Christopher kills Dracula the people of Wallachia exile the Belmonts to poverty, that's why Simon has such a poor outfit.
- Dracula has an especial fixation (attraction?) on Simon and wants him to join him reuniting the most powerful bloodlines in the world, Soleil is alive in Simon's time and finally gets killed by Dracula.
- In Simon's Quest Simon is a noble once again and he stops passing the whip by bloodline and instead he does it by tournament (as evidenced in HoD) avoiding corruption.
- The woman in Simon's dream was Sarah, the spirit of the whip.
- Juste cheats on the tuornament to win, that causes the corruption of the whip (and Maxim's madness) - I've always dislked Juste -
- Simon is really afraid by the time of HoD as Dracula is going to come after him again.
- Juste didn't have any descendance as punishment (not that he looked like he wanted......) or he decided not to.
- Maxim gets Married with Lydie. The resulting bloodline were the Schneiders.
- Richter is Juste's niece, he's similar to Christopher, a cocky man but with a good heart, still he inherits the whip (by tournament) in a state of corruption thanks to Juste.
- Marriages are arranged by the Belmonts/Church so they get positions of power.
- Richter's mother was a bitch.
- Richter didn't want to be a vampire killer, he wanted his own "freedom" it always seemded hard to him that the Belmonts were only destined to kill a man who is responsability of the army/church/god
- Wallachia is destroyed in RoB and the surviving Belmonts of the town are killed, Dracula is pissed that the townsfolk adore the Belmonts more than him.
- Dracula feels Richter's corruption and so he proceeds to break him.
- The girls rescued in RoB die at their return to (a non existant) wallachia, making Richter, Maria and whoever the girl was called the only surviving wallachians.


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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2013, 02:15:21 PM »
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A few from me.

- Mathias got the Crimson Stone during the Crusades, as the Church was looking for this powerful artifact. Leon was exiled/excommunicated for not being able to recover the item from Mathias, leading to the Belmon exil/fear.
- Sonia was Trevor's mother, but she was not a vampire killer.
- Lisa and Sypha met during their early years when they learnt magic. Sypha went to Dracula's castle to try to stop Dracula's revenge, but failed against the Cyclops (who turned her into stone).
- Hector and Julia had children, founding the Renard family. (Hector is Maria's ancestor.)
- Alucard exiled himself after killing Dracula with Trevor/Sypha/Grant, and only came back during SotN.
- Soleiyu could be Simon's grand-father.
- Galamoth tries to take the Crimson Stone from Dracula in order to control Chaos and Death.
- Albus is a Morris, and could be Quincy's grand-father. Albus' own father/grand-father got the VK from Richter after the events of SotN. That would explain why he is looking for the Belmonts during OoE. He also would have liked to use the VK against Dracula instead of Dominus, to spare Shanoa's life.
- Brauner was turned into a vampire by Elizabeth during WW1 after he lost his daugthers.
- Julius was trained by Jonathan, Charlotte, and Alucard. During the battle of 1999: Julius, Alucard, Mina's father, and Charlotte fought against Dracula. Jonathan died of old age/from the VK's curse. Dracula being too powerful, Mina's father seals the castle away with the help of Julius and the VK. However, Julius gets trapped into the castle and loses his memories.

And one for the fun, but I think someone else already made this theory already:
- Gabriel, in Modern Times, defeats Satan, and finds a way to get back in the past. He prevents his parents from abandonning him, so he wouldn't become Dracula. However, Mathias, who is related to Gabriel, becomes Dracula. (LoS being the prologue to the original timeline lol)

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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2013, 02:27:20 PM »
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Somina exists. What happened in the game happened. The backstory of CV3 could be extended a bit further back to encompass Legends (the whole thing with the church and the Pope). Basically, after Sonia defeats Dracula, his curse still infects the land (Dracula's Curse, teehee) - just as in Simon's Quest and (the created-by-IGA) Curse of Darkness. Basically, mostly of the 15th century was a sucky time for Europe.

Sonia and Alucard didn't have a love child (this is supported by the Japanese storyline, where there simply isn't enough time).

Sypha Belnades/Fernandez is Sonia's daughter.

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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2013, 04:21:10 PM »
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To me, the ending when Simon dies was always the best ending.

I can think of many twisted things...

Shaft's purposes with the abducted maidens was not only what we were told.

Carmilla and Laura used to do some experiments during night.

Brauner was an aristocrat pimp, and exploited his daughters in some brothel for aristocracy, but fate showed it ugliest face and they became vampires, some night when an old vampire visited the naughty place.

Is that too much?  :P
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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2013, 04:31:26 PM »
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Brauner was an aristocrat pimp, and exploited his daughters in some brothel for aristocracy, but fate showed it ugliest face and they became vampires, some night when an old vampire visited the naughty place.

i thought Stella & Loretta were actually Eric's daughters?

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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2013, 04:45:22 PM »
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Ooo! This looks interesting.

*AHEM!*

Mathias Cronqvist: Mathias is not Dracula. Instead Mathias disappears at the end of LoI and reappears much later on as King Matthias Corvinus of Hungary.

Leon Belmont: After LoI Leon marries another women whom he fell in love with and the two begin the infamous Belmont legacy.

Vlad Tepes III (Dracula): Vlad's father (Vlad II) is assassinated. His eldest son (Vlad III's brother) is buried alive and his youngest brother is given the Romania thrown by the Turks. Vlad goes through a tormented childhood of slavery and abuse; some even sexual. Once an adult Vlad seizes power forcibly from his younger brother and takes the thrown of Romania. Vlad then assaults King Mattias' armies which prompts a retaliatory strike from Matthias himself. Vlad III later  imprisoned by king Matthias for a duration of six years in which the two eventually become allies. During this time Vlad finds out about the Ebony and Crimson stones and steals them, thus reverting Mathias back to a powerless human. Vlad wins the battle against the Turkish forces but his bride Elizabetha kills herself due to false news of his demise. In a blinding rage Vlad renounces God, stabs the stone cross in his castle chapel which then bleeds outward, flooding the chapel. He drinks the blood and throws away his humanity. Vlad then becomes Dracula through his very will without the reliance of the Ebony and Crimson stones, although he wears the Crimson stone around his neck from that moment onward as a memento, but he calls it a blood stone.

CV L: Sonia Belmont is Vampire hunter and future Mother of Trevor Belmont. Sonia challenges the threat of Dracula and is successful in bringing him down. However the church and people find out about her supernatural powers and exile her. the only reason the church doesn't kill Sonia is because she is the direct descendant of Leon Belmont whom was a former noble employee of the church a year before the crusades broke out.

CV: Curse of Darkness: Does not happen.

Trevor Belmont: Defeats Dracula as his mother before him. Later on he Marries Sypha.

Sypha Belnades: A young Witch who was employed by the church in the hopes of subduing Dracula's forces as they were at the time unable to locate a Belmont. She Marries Trevor.

Grant Dynasty: Former prince of Romania, a Circus performer on land and Privateer at sea. He assists Trevor Belmont in his quest to overthrow Dracula and reinstate the Dynasty clan as the rulers of Romania. Grant and Sypha have no relationship beyond that of just being fellow comrades.

CV Adventure: Cannon title.

CV Belmont's Revenge: Cannon title.

CV Resurrection: Victor Belmont throws away his destiny, but is brought back in time to 1666 in order to fight Dracula. He's got no choice in the matter. Sonia Belmont is summoned by divine forces and resurrected from her grave to oppose Dracula once more.

Castlevania 1 NES: Cannon title.

Castlevania II Simon's Quest: Cannon title. Simon lives and Dracula's hand emerges from the grave.

Super Castlevania 4: Cannon title as the true sequel to Simon's Quest. It is Simon's last adventure and his most historic.

CV Harmony of Dissonance: Cannon title.

CV Rondo of Blood: Cannon title. Richter Belmont rescues everyone and puts an end to Dracula with Maria's assistance. Both Maria and Anett are unrelated by blood as Maria is really a descendant of the Belmont clan whom was adopted by the Renard family. Anett and Richter marry. Richter disappears one year later.

CV SotN: Four years after Richter's disappearance Maria on Anett's behalf and pleas, decides to search for him. Alucard is awakened as well and the two warriors eventually help each other to seal up Castlevania once more. Alucard faces Shaft and Dracula after helping to save Richter from Shaft's control spell.

CV CotM: Cannon title but from an alternate universe. Nathan Graves is a direct descendant of Richter. Nathan's mother is Richter's daughter. The Graves family are close friends with the Baldwin clan and after Nathan loses his parents while defeating Dracula, Morris Baldwin raises him up as one of his pupils. Hugh Baldwin is jealous of Nathan receiving the hunter whip though he does not know that it belongs to Nathan's family and is therefore his alone to wield.

CV 64/LoD: Cannon title but from an alternate universe.

CV OoE: Cannon title. After Shanoa defeats Dracula with the help of the Belmont blood's magical properties and through Dracula's own power, she searches for the main family line of the Belmonts whom are not in Wygol village. After locating them she eventually marries into the family.

Bram Stoker's Dracula: Quincy Morris whom is widowed at the time is staying with friends at Lucy's estate in hopes of courting the fair maiden. He has brought his 2 year-old son Jon Morris with him and leaves Jon to be with the Lecards,  close friends of the Morris family and distantly related by blood. During the pursuit of Dracula towards Romania, Quincy and the others learn of both Eric and Jon's abduction by Dracula's men. The two children are rescued and watch the final battle of Quincy and Dracula. Quincy is mortally wounded and dies. Jon is then taken in by the Lecards till he reaches maturity. He is then given his family's heirloom; the Vampirekiller whip.

CV Bloodlines: Cannon title.

CV PoR: Cannon title.

CV Area of Sorrow: Cannon title.

CV Dawn of Sorrow: Not necessary.
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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2013, 06:54:13 PM »
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i thought Stella & Loretta were actually Eric's daughters?
That would ruin my fanfiction idea, because Brauner fills aesthetically the role of an aristocratic pimp  :P

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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2013, 10:21:12 PM »
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So SO many great ideas. I love it.

  • Mina's father probably died while using the last of his power to seal Castlevania

-Either he didn't die till after 2017 (when Mina was born) or it was her grandpa who sealed the Demon Castle.

  • Both male and female heirs can inherit and pass on the Belmont name and whip. I just imagine all the female ones were around inbetween the hotshots like Simon, Richter etc.
  • The original Castlevania for NES is the "offical" story of what happend in 1691. All the others are an alternate continuity with a different Simon. Likewise, Rondo is what really happend and DXX is outside the main contiuity. This is more or less supported by IGA, but sadly any offical timeline has yet to reflect this.

-Given Sonia, Zoe, and Dolores, I never did see why they shouldn't. I like to think one of them stood up to the plate when the male whip bearer was killed or disabled.

-If for no other reason than if it weren't the real story, then having the Darkwing Bat, Akmodan II, Medusa, The Creature, and Death as the guardians of Drac's relics in SOTN wouldn't make sense.

- Death doesn't serve Dracula but Chaos, he's going to cross path some day for him.
- Death is the one that sells Lisa to provoke the coming events.
- Trevor Belmont is a pariah as the Belmont family is feared.
- The woman in Simon's dream was Sarah, the spirit of the whip.

-I love how Judgment teased something very much like that. Then along came LOS.
-He did it as Zead for all we know.
-Ditto, but for all that I like to think he wandered Europe hunting monsters and doing good all the same.
-*steals this because he never thought of it and it's too awesome to pass up*

- Mathias got the Crimson Stone during the Crusades, as the Church was looking for this powerful artifact. Leon was exiled/excommunicated for not being able to recover the item from Mathias, leading to the Belmon exil/fear.
- Sonia was Trevor's mother, but she was not a vampire killer.
- Lisa and Sypha met during their early years when they learnt magic. Sypha went to Dracula's castle to try to stop Dracula's revenge, but failed against the Cyclops (who turned her into stone).
- Hector and Julia had children, founding the Renard family. (Hector is Maria's ancestor.)
- Albus is a Morris, and could be Quincy's grand-father. Albus' own father/grand-father got the VK from Richter after the events of SotN. That would explain why he is looking for the Belmonts during OoE. He also would have liked to use the VK against Dracula instead of Dominus, to spare Shanoa's life.
- Brauner was turned into a vampire by Elizabeth during WW1 after he lost his daugthers.

-Interesting. So Mathias in fact found what the Church was looking for but kept it to himself. That's a good one.
-This is a good way to re-canonize Sonia if they absolutely have to.
-...I would use this if I were in charge of a CV3 novel/movie. I really would.
-That would explain the animal affinity, but aren't the Renards of Belmont blood? Maybe their lines intermingled at some point.
-I remember when a lot of people were thinking Albus would be a Morris. It still kills me that it wasn't the case.
-This makes way more sense to me than "using the darkness in his soul to become a vampire."

Sonia and Alucard didn't have a love child (this is supported by the Japanese storyline, where there simply isn't enough time).

-Agreed. It was never even implied that Alucard was the father; that was just people extrapolating. The very idea of Trevor being his kid was always silly and extremely unlikely.

To me, the ending when Simon dies was always the best ending.

Shaft's purposes with the abducted maidens was not only what we were told.

Carmilla and Laura used to do some experiments during night.

Brauner was an aristocrat pimp, and exploited his daughters in some brothel for aristocracy, but fate showed it ugliest face and they became vampires, some night when an old vampire visited the naughty place.

Is that too much?  :P

-*high fives*
-TVTropes has a theory that Annette, Maria, Tera, and Iris were going to be one big sacrifice to revive Lisa. Maybe that's it?
-Goes without saying.
-...what Crisis said.  ;D


Leon Belmont: After LoI Leon marries another women whom he fell in love with and the two begin the infamous Belmont legacy.

Bram Stoker's Dracula: Quincy Morris whom is widowed at the time is staying with friends at Lucy's estate in hopes of courting the fair maiden. He has brought his 2 year-old son Jon Morris with him and leaves Jon to be with the Lecards,  close friends of the Morris family and distantly related by blood. During the pursuit of Dracula towards Romania, Quincy and the others learn of both Eric and Jon's abduction by Dracula's men. The two children are rescued and watch the final battle of Quincy and Dracula. Quincy is mortally wounded and dies. Jon is then taken in by the Lecards till he reaches maturity. He is then given his family's heirloom; the Vampirekiller whip.

-If there's one Belmont we needed more of pre-LOS, it was Leon. He was too important to leave hanging at just one game.
-All these years and I never once thought the Lecardes would be the ones to raise John post-1897. It would lend a brotherly vibe to his friendship with Eric for sure. And if we regard Judgement (or at least the info presented in it) as canon, it would explain Eric's bitterness; maybe his own dad favored John over him.

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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2013, 05:06:00 AM »
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I love this thread. Reading all your ideas make me say, "oh yeah... that must have happened"

Anyway, for my contribution...
Nocturne of Recollection: I believe Alucard and Lyudmil had some sort of relationship greater than a master and a servant. Alucard and Maria would not have children (due to Allie being so afraid of passing his bloodline), but there is a possibility of adoption.

Ricordanza: Suggests that DoS actually happened. Also is supported by the partial solar eclipse on January 16, 2037.

Julius: With the intense training required for the 1999 battle, perhaps he really has no heir.

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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2013, 05:45:43 AM »
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This is a bomb thread I gota come up with something.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2013, 05:50:09 AM »
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This is a bomb thread I gota come up with something.

Better hurry, tickets are almost sold out!  ;)
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Re: The Headcanon Thread
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2013, 05:58:10 AM »
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This thread gets an A in my book. I might add something tomorrow but I have to go to bed.

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