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LOS question
« on: September 10, 2013, 02:34:06 AM »
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I'm trying to remember, was it ever explained why Gabriel killed the blonde girl? That just seemed completely random and silly to me. "Oh, thanks for helping me kill this Golem I STAB YOU IN THE FACE NOW."

I've just been thinking about this, and it's bugging me.
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2013, 03:52:33 AM »
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Wasn't it because
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2013, 03:54:07 AM »
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Wasn't it because
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The Devil mask.

Pay attention to Zobek's dialogue at the end. (as well as the cut scene imagery) He's been manipulating Gabriel the whole time with the Devil mask. He puts it on Gabe's face, and is able to control him.

He made him kill his wife, he made him kill Claudia.

It's the reason when Pan puts him through the puzzle, he sees himself stabbing Marie. That was the truth shining through.

The Dark gauntlet is inconsequential to Zobek's control over Gabriel. However, it is the reason he made him kill Claudia. So that Gabriel would fight the Black Knight Golem. he knew he would win, and he knew he would gain the Dark gauntlet from it. The Dark gauntlet being a dark magic artifact of Hell, which allows Zobek to manipulate it, using it to kill Gabriel with it's magic.
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2013, 12:31:36 PM »
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I don't understand, what is the Devil Mask? I don't remember it being mentioned in the game. Is it missable?
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2013, 03:59:04 AM »
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I don't understand, what is the Devil Mask? I don't remember it being mentioned in the game. Is it missable?

Devil mask is the broken-ish looking God Mask, Zobek plants it on Gabriel when he sleeps, note why Zobek makes a big deal why get is restless and such

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2013, 07:00:07 AM »
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Alright, this is purely speculation - but I have kept asking Cox time and time again, with no answer. So I am beginning to think I stumbled on to a plot device secret. If you paid attention to the old time line very carefully and understand Dracula as a character, you will see the huge twist.


Now, the whole reason why Claudia was killed was because Gabriel needed the Dark Gauntlet. How this was done was due to the Devil Mask this unholy artifact was used to manipulate Gabriel, but what is so important about it? Well, if you understand the relationship of Dracula and Death in the old time line, you will make some odd conclusions.

1. "I fought hordes of Demon's and become strong" - Zobek
1a. "I capture evil souls so that he may devour them." - Claudia.
1b. "The Gauntlet is the key, there will be a time when you will be in great need of it." - Pan

Now, these two applications, think very carefully with what you see Gabriel do with the gauntlet through out the game and especially at the end of the Resurrection DLC when the Forgotten One; and if you guessed right now that Dark Gauntlet wields the Power of Dominance; the ability to absorb and rule over ALL monsters.

Now as for the Devil Mask? Well, lets take a minute here... The whole story was about uniting the three powers, which we all assumed was the God Mask.  But we find out, the true power of the Mask was to see through God's Eyes. So we need to kick that out of the equation.  The actuality of the story was to unite the power of the Lords of Shadow

- The Dark Gauntlet: Death (The power of Dominance)
- The Cyclone Boots (Still trying to figure out this explanation to this.)
- The Seraph Shoulders (I assume used to make Gabriel a partial Angel during the battle with Satan)

Now as for the Devils Mask - you will need to understand these particular quotes from Zobek/Death very carefully.

"Reap the whirlwinds Scions of Death, for here comes the Prince of Darkness."

This quote was one of prophecy, Zobek knew that  Gabriel was going to slaughter The Forgotten One; this inheriting the title: Prince of Darkness.

But now we have this interesting journal entry from the journal, and you will need to read this very carefully if you understand Dracula.

"Look at him, so dark, so beautiful, he has come for his revenge and he shall have it. A killing machine without remorse, without pity. What happen to you, Gabriel? Love has blinded you but you have changed, my friend. Your quest is almost over, the dream is in sight. Now you must face death and you must defeat it. The mask is a powerful device and he who wields it can do anything! Bring back the dead, rule the world, destroy the universe, challenge God himself. You are the one, Gabriel. You are the one!"

1. Bring back the Dead
2. Rule the World
3. Destroy the Universe
5. Challenge God Himself

...This doesn't sound like the God Mask, now does it?

At the beginning of the first DLC (Reverie) you see Gabriel holding the mask. At the "secret" ending prologue, you see that Gabriel/Dracula has worn the Devil Mask for so long, it has become apart of him.

But this is all pure speculation.

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2013, 01:55:41 PM »
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Devil mask is the broken-ish looking God Mask, Zobek plants it on Gabriel when he sleeps, note why Zobek makes a big deal why get is restless and such

I guess I missed both the God and Devil masks. I skipped some of Patrick Stewart's narration, was it in that?
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2013, 02:25:56 PM »
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I guess I missed both the God and Devil masks. I skipped some of Patrick Stewart's narration, was it in that?
How could you miss the God mask? It was the point of the entire game

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At the beginning of the first DLC (Reverie) you see Gabriel holding the mask. At the "secret" ending prologue, you see that Gabriel/Dracula has worn the Devil Mask for so long, it has become apart of him.
I don't remember this.

Edit: Oh I think you mean when the lighting strikes? I think that was Gabriel's young face, not the devil's mask, but that's just me.
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2013, 02:32:52 PM »
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I'm not kidding, this is the first I'm hearing of either the God or Devil masks. I remember Gabriel wearing a mask in a couple of scenes but I don't remember this ever having an explanation.

On a side note, a mask, really? Is this Castlevania or Splatterhouse?
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2013, 03:45:18 PM »
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God mask on left, Devil mask on the right.

The Dark Gauntlet: Death (The power of Dominance)
- The Cyclone Boots (Still trying to figure out this explanation to this.)
- The Seraph Shoulders (I assume used to make Gabriel a partial Angel during the battle with Satan)
Keep in mind, and this might be important, that the Dark gauntlet is said toi be a demonic artifact forged in hell. I mean, how the fuck did an Aghartan get a hold of such a thing?

Also, I thought it was obvious that the gauntlet was the power of dominance? Don't you get the ability to absorb orbs once you get it?
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2013, 04:23:18 PM »
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See, I would have just thought those masks were just part of the artwork, like the gargoyle in the back of SoTN's file select screen. I'll find the cutscenes on YouTube and filter through, them but I don't remember "God Mask" or "Devil Mask" being mentioned at all in the game.

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2013, 05:49:35 PM »
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Because the Devil Mask is never actually mentioned in game. It's never referred to by name. Zobek just shows up with it in the final scenes after the Dracolich, puts it on, and becomes the final Lord of Shadow. From there, we see flashbacks that show Gabriel killing Claudia and Marie while wearing the mask. usually with Zobek behind him.
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2013, 06:01:31 PM »
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Um...if it's never actually mentioned in the game, how do we know what it's called or what it does?
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2013, 10:01:43 PM »
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Um...if it's never actually mentioned in the game, how do we know what it's called or what it does?
We don't. That's the point. The God mask IS the plt device of the whole game and it's mentioned since the first titan fight and becomes the last goal. I'm surprised how you NEVER saw it, as you now, it appears each time a lord is killed and stuff.

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2013, 10:50:21 PM »
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Well, the boss fights- especially the titans- were really tedious, so I probably left the room to get a soda or something. The one that throws the rocks took me like an hour to finish, so I needed a break.

So the mask had something to do with Gabriel defeating the Lords of Shadow and eventually
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