Topic: What exactly does Dracula DO when he's dead?

[Super Waffle]

He probably spends his time thinking of depraved ways to seduce the love interest of whichever Belmont defeated him last and convert her into one of his vile underlings as twisted form of revenge.

And then he writes fanfics about it.

[darkwzrd4]

The way I always understood it, Dracula revives two ways: 1) after 100 years, his body regenerate and his power builds allowing him to resurrect on his own; 2) his minions/worshipers gather his physical remains and make a human sacrifices over them; 3) Dracula's soul is summoned and enters someone with with dark powers connected to him (example: Issac in CoD) and thus that person becomes his vessel.

Regarding the Sorrow games, Soma is that literal reincarnation of Dracula. The others such as Dimitri and Dario from DoS were merely born at the exact moment in which Dracula was destroyed in 1999, thus they received some of his power. The same goes for Graham from AoS. If anything they were meant to be his servants and perhaps his vessels if he needed them to be. But, Soma was literally Dracula reincarnated. He just chose not to embrace the darkness and become what he was in his previous life.

As for why Death attacks Soma in AoS and DoS, I don't know. Assuming that it's cannon, in the novel, it's pretty clear that Death knows that Soma is his master reincarnated. If I remember correctly, Death even asks Soma to return to the castle and be his master once again.

[Ratty]

Yeah the only ones I can recall with the sacrifice are x68/Chronicles, Rondo and the N64 games. Guess those must be the only ones with it. All early resurrections? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

He probably spends his time thinking of depraved ways to seduce the love interest of whichever Belmont defeated him last and convert her into one of his vile underlings as twisted form of revenge.

And then he writes fanfics about it.

Wait a second... Super Waffle spelled backwards is Elffaw Repus, SW is the reincarnation of Dracula!

[X]

The way I always understood it, Dracula revives two ways: 1) after 100 years, his body regenerate and his power builds allowing him to resurrect on his own; 2) his minions/worshipers gather his physical remains and make a human sacrifices over them; 3) Dracula's soul is summoned and enters someone with with dark powers connected to him (example: Issac in CoD) and thus that person becomes his vessel.

Regarding the Sorrow games, Soma is the literal reincarnation of Dracula. The others such as Dimitri and Dario from DoS were merely born at the exact moment in which Dracula was destroyed in 1999, thus they received some of his power. The same goes for Graham from AoS. If anything they were meant to be his servants and perhaps his vessels if he needed them to be. But, Soma was literally Dracula reincarnated. He just chose not to embrace the darkness and become what he was in his previous life.

As for why Death attacks Soma in AoS and DoS, I don't know. Assuming that it's cannon, in the novel, it's pretty clear that Death knows that Soma is his master reincarnated. If I remember correctly, Death even asks Soma to return to the castle and be his master once again.

I agree with this. Soma is Dracula reincarnated. Simple, and not complicated. How he became Soma must have had something to do with the sealing of Castlevania into the eclipse. Although Demetri and Dario have some of Dracula's abilities that's all they have. It's got nothing to do with Soma's soul as the soul itself cannot be displaced into more then one person. The soul just doesn't work that way. As for Graham, I have yet to see what kind of powers he has naturally. They only time you see him with any abilities is during the scene with him stabbing Yoko. So I doubt he was born with it but he acquired it just before the confrontation with Yoko. And Yoko said herself that Graham has absorbed some of the castle's power so It's obvious from that perspective that he didn't have any prior to coming to Castlevania. If anything he believed himself Dracula because of his being born at the same exact time Dracula perished. A egocentric, self-absorbed obsession if you will. Otherwise he'd be nothing without that belief.

[darkwzrd4]

Graham, Dimitri, and Dario were all born at the exact moment that Dracula was destroyed in 1999 and for some reason received some power. It is also possible that all the children born at that exact moment also received some power. We just don't know. We only know about these three.

When Yoko said that he absorbed the castle's power, she meant just that. He got to the throne room where he absorbed it. Simple as that. Anyone can absorb the castle's power if they get to the throne room assuming no one already has it. Or, at least that's how I understand it.

[KaZudra]

Graham, Dimitri, and Dario were all born at the exact moment that Dracula was destroyed in 1999 and for some reason received some power. It is also possible that all the children born at that exact moment also received some power. We just don't know. We only know about these three.

When Yoko said that he absorbed the castle's power, she meant just that. He got to the throne room where he absorbed it. Simple as that. Anyone can absorb the castle's power if they get to the throne room assuming no one already has it. Or, at least that's how I understand it.

It's funny, I found out that there was a avg of 4.3 people born on the same second (based on 370,000, the average born daily), meaning that there is up to 2 more Dark lord Candidates that we'll probably never see.

[X]

It's funny, I found out that there was a avg of 4.3 people born on the same second (based on 370,000, the average born daily), meaning that there is up to 2 more Dark lord Candidates that we'll probably never see.

That's probably for the best. DoS wasn't a very good story to begin with and I highly doubt that IGA could have told a better one if a game sequel to DoS was made. It should have all ended with AoS.

[Shiroi Koumori]

That's probably for the best. DoS wasn't a very good story to begin with and I highly doubt that IGA could have told a better one if a game sequel to DoS was made. It should have all ended with AoS.

DoS was driven by the gimmicks first and story last.
There won't be a game sequel for DoS since IGA's out of the picture.

[darkwzrd4]

DoS was driven by the gimmicks first and story last.
There won't be a game sequel for DoS since IGA's out of the picture.

Every Igavania is gimmicks first and story last. That's his MO. If there is a sequel to DoS, let's hope that someone other than IGA does it. And, I completely agree that it should have ended with AoS. DoS was just an excuse to reuse Soma in a game.

[Chernabogue]

Though, I feel like he has more of a similar situation to Satan in Dante's Inferno (the game), in that he's pretty much fully conscious and sentient, but has only a fraction of his full power at his disposal, and is physically sealed for the time between resurrections.

I was going to give this example. Thanks.

[Intersection]

Every Igavania is gimmicks first and story last. That's his MO. If there is a sequel to DoS, let's hope that someone other than IGA does it. And, I completely agree that it should have ended with AoS. DoS was just an excuse to reuse Soma in a game.

Hey, I'm pretty satisfied with DoS as it is. Granted, its plot and art design were absolutely awful, but the game nailed just about everything else -- and it's probably one of the best-remembered Igavanias after Symphony. Poor narrative isn't enough of a reason to wish it out of the picture.

I'm not sure what you mean by "gimmicks", either. I've heard this said on another topic, but I'm not exactly convinced. With the exception of DoS, and PoR if you stretch it, IGA's plots have always been perfectly decent.


On topic:

I'm not exactly sure why a dead Dracula should be doing anything in the first place. In my world, at least, death severely limits those kind of opportunities...
Of course, if you're particularly imaginative, you could certainly imagine Dracula's soul wandering in the underworld... But that's about all I can see.

[X]

Either that or he could be stuck in limbo. Not being able to move, talk, interact or just not being able to do anything period. Then when he's finally brought back to life he remembers his time in limbo and gets more pissed about it every single time he's killed and goes back there.

[Dracula9]

I'm not exactly sure why a dead Dracula should be doing anything in the first place. In my world, at least, death severely limits those kind of opportunities...

Exactly. Your world. Not his. Dracula isn't human, remember? He's infused with entropy and Chaos and has his own personal soul reaper at his beck and call. The rules that apply to us don't apply to him. My whole theory is that Dracula's mind (not his will, I do differentiate) can't just remain totally dormant for the timespan simply because of how powerful the guy is. That's why I made the reference to Satan in Dante's Inferno (on that note, no prob, Chernabogue. I was wondering if anyone else would think of it.). I just can't wrap my head around a creature that basically amounts of Chaos and despair embodied (ugh, DMC2 memories, go away), fueled by the darkness in the hearts of mankind (something that never truly disappears) would just...go to sleep.

[Belmontoya]

Hell being a vacation for him doesn't make sense because it eliminates his motivation for wanting to stay in the world of the living. And I think the hibernation idea works, but it's just boring.

I still like the idea of Hell being a torturous place for Dracula. I like the idea of him wanting to avoid being sent back there at all costs. I also like the idea of Dracula having to fight his way back to the world of the living. I think there's so much missed opportunity there for a game or games where you play as Dracula to fight your way back to the natural world.

This doesn't seem to be something that is very elaborated on in Castlevania. That's another reason why I think there is so much potential there.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a missed opportunity for CV games where you play as Dracula?

[Dracula9]

If you think about it, Aria was pretty much exactly that, Montoya, only a little more metaphorical given that you're an avatar of Dracula.