Topic: Was SOTN trying to imply Alucard has an Oedipus complex?

[Super Waffle]

Because the whole idea of the traditional succubus is they disguise themselves as each man's ideal woman for semen-collecting purposes, and in Alucard's case the succubus just happened to appear as his mom.

just saying.

[Ahasverus]

This is on the level of Rape Dracula.

[darkwzrd4]

I was wondering the same thing. Cause sometimes he will say "in the name of my mother....". For example, right before the fight with Dracula begins, he says: "Dracula, in the name of my mother, I will defeat you again." Why would he say that? Plus, we also have the nightmare evidence.

I also remember it being implied that at one point Lisa and Dracula split up and she too Adrian (Alucard) will her. If that's the case, and they just lived together mother and son, it's very likely they grew very close. Especially if people were aware that Adrian was half-vampire. It's possible that they could have been shunned by the local people. This could have might have added to the implications that she may be a witch. Think about it: "single" woman with a son. no known father. the son is half-vampire. she uses something other than prayer on the sick. the people she is "trying" to help still die.

In that atmosphere where religion, superstition, and ignorance reign supreme, it's possible that those two would spend a lot of alone time together. Who knows? They might have been some incest. I at least think that it's vaguely being implied.

[Ahasverus]

It's IGA, he needed a name for a female demon, oh, Succubus, ok, make it redhead and with boobs. Profit. Don't give it much though. He was the scenario writer so ToGod Hagihara is not guilty of this.

[Super Waffle]

This is on the level of Rape Dracula.

Sounds interesting.  Tell me more.

[Ahasverus]

Sounds interesting.  Tell me more.

Where were you living these days lol http://www.usgamer.net/articles/yes-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-did-make-me-feel-uncomfortable-

[Super Waffle]

Oh, it's a Lords of Shadow thing.  I don't really pay attention to that.

And why do all of those screenshots show Gabriel casually walking around in... what looks like a modern urban environment?  Are they trying to turn Castlevania into Assassin's Creed all of the sudden?

wtf are you doing Cox

[Intersection]

And why do all of those screenshots show Gabriel casually walking around in... what looks like a modern urban environment?

Simply because Lords of Shadow 2 is set in a modern urban environment...

[Super Waffle]

oh sure because that's the most logical place to find a CASTLE in a Castlevania game.

[theplottwist]

Well here is what I think of the whole Succubus thing:

Alucard strikes me as the man who never loved anyone, but his mother.
There is a Succubus on the castle and she needs to defeat him (DEFEAT. No "semen collecting" is even implied, even if it's a Succubus function,  and even if "defeat" can mean "any means necessary", but bear with me). She was probably commanded by either Richter (controlled by Shaft) or Death to do it. Thus she needed to use the image from someone who Alucard loved, and who is that? Lisa. There was no other better to impersonate because Alucard is either sleeping for centuries or awaken feeling depressed. When you have to defeat a guy, your main weapon is using this guy's fantasies to seduce him, and said guy has zero sexual-related fantasies, it makes your work a tad harder, no? But Alucard is not at all without a secret of his own...

Succubus Lisa doesn't try to seduce Alucard using Lisa in the physical sense, but in the mental one. She is using Lisa only to aim at the real "fantasy". If he had an Oedipus Complex, Succubus being inside his head would know of this and construct a better scenario where proper seducing would work better. Instead, she uses the traumatizing scene of his mother being burned, and tries incentivating him into comitting murder upon the people.

The Succubus is indeed seducing him. By making him give in to his vampiric desires through the incentive of the only person who Alucard trusted fully to devotion. Who wouldn't like to have someone who incentives you to be what you are to it's fullest extent while loving you inconditionally?

She is seducing him with the forbidden fetish of his restrained vampirism, bloodlust and vengeance.

[Dracula9]

Well, Waffle, Drac could just go for the modern equivalent and take over Trump Tower.

As for the Succubus thing (ohp, Plot just posted, so he's probably going to say the same thing only better), I think that has more to do with Alucard's deep - almost symbolic - love for his mother, and the fact that he comes off as asexual, more than an implied Oedipus complex. I mean, the guy's got next to no emotion for anything except Lisa. A large amount of his dialogue is pretty aloof in tone until Lisa comes up in just about any context.

I guess, in a sense, the Succubus (God, I wish she had a fucking name) isn't so much tempting his dick, as she is tempting the other half of his dhampir nature.

Hang on a minute...a dhampir, who's more human than vampire, who sympathizes with and works to help humankind, who is the son of Dracula, makes every effort to control his bloodlust, and has a deep-seated and profound love/hate relationship with his origins...

Where have I heard this story before...?



Oh, right.

EDIT: Yep, Plot did. lol

[Asgardwolf]

oh sure because that's the most logical place to find a CASTLE in a Castlevania game.

It was (or supposed to be) during the 1999 Castle War and also in the future in AoS/DoS. why could`t be a ccastle in the present time?

[Super Waffle]

wait, I thought the LoS games were supposed to be an alternate universe?

[Dracula9]

It IS in a new timeline...isn't it?

I mean, maybe there was DCW speculation or something but Lords IS an AU.

[DoctaMario]

LOL this could ONLY have been a Super Waffle thread. xD Interesting topic though.