Topic: The Lords of Shadow series has come and gone, time to reflect on it.

[Flame]

Some people liked Dawn or Portrait and even judgement. I had fun playing Dawn and Portrait, I didn't playing LoS. It's how it is, nothing immature about it. I'm sick of the concepts they tried, sick of the storyline, sick of the ambient music. I don't want it to continue.

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Some people hated Dawn and portrait and did not enjoy them as much as their predecessors. portrait in particular infuriates me because of what a cheap soulless game it is, riding on Bloodline's name, and relying on people buying it because it's a sequel to a game it does NOT honor. And I really disliked the way Castlevania sounded on the DS. Dawn of Sorrow's soundtrack grinded on my ears way harder than it should have. I think in fact, Aria, despite inferior hardware, sounded better than Dawn. In dawn, you could have told me Michuru Yamane was not involved at all, and i would have believed you. I was also sick of metroidvania. I lied it. But IGA drew it out for far too long. I enjoyed LoI for not being a Metroidvania. It was a dungeon crawler beat em up, kind of game, and I was happy with that change of pace.

Then Curse of Darkness managed to mess that up, and Judgement well, to be fair would not have been nearly as bad if not for the art style and redesigns-

The Adventure Rebirth caught me by surprise, and I loved every second of it. Classicvania reborn? what miracle is this? then came Harmony of Despair, and proved that IGA was just out of ideas. I never asked for a multiplayer Castlevania. I never asked for all the music to lose all charm and become generic rock, or for the levels to be the frankenstein copypastes they were, or the fact that they tried to actually integrate plot into it unsuccessfully.

Then LoS happened. And it was so different from what we were getting that it was a breath of fresh air. I didn't care that the trailer lied about Dracula, I enjoyed the story as is. It was actually fairly standard for Castlevania. Belmont's wife is taken away, (this time killed and not kidnapped) And Belmont sets out for revenge against the evils of the land that caused it. The game was not all inside the castle! it was familiar classicvania areas! the castle itself was cool and big! Satan? What? Wait is that Jason Isaacs?  Awesome! Well fuck it, let's kick his ass anyway!

the plot twist at the credits was pretty shocking, if not very bizzare, for a Belmont to become Dracula- It's about on par and actually almost worse than Legends making Dracula the grandfather of Trevor, but I was curious as to where they would go with the story. It was pretty cliche, And pretty much identical to LoI, which itself ripped off the Coppola movie. Only it fused the mathias and leon characters together. moF had a strange out of order story, but it was interesting enough. Simon was great, he was Simon just like right out of the NES days. muscles, barbarian look, a BEARD! and even a leather whip! Which then upgrades to chain! Alucard? there's Alucard? Alright, lets' get to the chase on this- we all knew the plot twist and it was silly. Though Alucard's story was also pretty standard. '"I hate you vampire dad! Im gonna be your opposite!" And aside from his bare chest and pale blueish skin, he looked pretty similar to his SotN design superficially. the came Trevor, the pre-alucard. And while his gameplay was not too thought out beyond "he works like alucard just because", his story was the best of the three. I genuinely felt the feels when Dracula kills him and discovers his identity, trying desperately to revive him, and failing to do so, gives him a prince's burial within his castle- within what was his own throne room no less!

From there, i was just really intrigued by the new take on the mythos and franchise. LoS2 definitely did not live up to it's hype, but I enjoyed it for what it was. a different vision of castlevania than what we had been getting.

Now look at me, i went off on a wall of text.

my point being, I, and many other people, feel the opposite you do about the DS games and the LoS games.

there's absolutely nothing wrong with disliking them. That's your right to do so. But at least try to understand that some people just feel the exact opposite. And they didn;t quit when push came to shove and they didn't quite get what they were expecting, or wanted. With a fandom it's aaaall about patience.

You think waiting for LoS to blow over is bad, ask Dalkstalkers fans some time how long theyve been waiting for a new game at all!

It's good that you want, maybe you'll get it. It's over for me, though.

Actually, aside from DLC for LoS2 and maybe some side game, I'm ok with it ending. I'd like to see someone else give Castlevania a try. Who knows, It might be 10x better than LoS or anything that came before, and catch both our interests I'd still like to see a CV2 remake, or well, what MS originally wanted to do, a CV1 remake. In THREEEEE DEEEEE with the same production values that the LoS series had.

[Kale]

So... i beat it.... Want to hear my thoughts? Amazingly enough, there was things I did like in this game.

Right now, I'm doing the challenges, and finding the rest of the upgrade/etc. Those challenges are...... pretty annoying, I have to say. But maybe it's because I just started sucking really really really bad for some reason. I was doing great the night before, but when I played in the morning, I was getting hit left and right.

It's worth a run through, at a discounted price.

[Viskod]

I'd love another Lords of Shadow, I really like Gabriels Dracula, but I don't really like the series jump to modern day, so I am torn. I want another Lords of Shadow game with Gabriel as Dracula, not being mopy about being Dracula and not set in modern day. But yeah, I ain't gonna get that. The Alucard DLC will just have to suffice. I suppose.

Lords of Shadow was a great series overall, and a great way to bring new fans to the franchise and that's always a good thing. I just wish the second game hadn't had the troubles it had. It really pisses me off when I find out that a good thing, could have been a great thing, if not for the meddling of an egomaniac or two.

I just hope the next Castlevania game is good, and if the next major console game is going to be on the PS4/XB1 then I hope we get a handheld game in the meantime to tide us over while that one is in development for the next two to three years.

[uzo]

Might as well just remake CV4 and or SotN. At this rate we're never going to see anything close to that quality again.

[crisis]

not unless its fanmade.. we'll have to start a kickstarter or something (and it might not even turn out as expected lol. great, maybe, but excellence? that takes years n years lol & is still a crapshoot)

[riverman]

Just happy it's the last MS vania. 

[Ahasverus]

I just had an epiphany.

Satan in the Lords of Shadow series serves the same role as Dracula in the old one. He's the guy that throws some few one liners and get his ass kicked 5 minutes after his appearance at the end of the game.

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Next Castlevania series to be Satan's origin story confirmed.

[Kale]

Boss battle, WTFs of LOS2....

Spoilers...

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There is a boss fight in the game, and I found it to be pretty awesome. One of the things I actually liked. However it was followed by a WTF moment.

You fight Victor Belmont, your decensdent. He behaves pretty much like you in the first game with your knives and such. It was just cool. But immediately after that, he drops a stone, and becomes a Giant and invincible. WTF?!

Someone tell me what the fuck that is all about. Please. Because... seriously, if anything was just plainly retarded, that seems to be the winner.

[e105beta]

I just had an epiphany.

Satan in the Lords of Shadow series serves the same role as Dracula in the old one. He's the guy that throws some few one liners and get his ass kicked 5 minutes after his appearance at the end of the game.

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Next Castlevania series to be Satan's origin story confirmed.

That...could actually make for an interesting game if done right.

Not a Castlevania game, obviously, but interesting nonetheless.

[Dremn]

Might as well just remake CV4 and or SotN. At this rate we're never going to see anything close to that quality again.

I don't think we'll ever see the old canon again to be perfectly honest.

It's either more LoS or something new.

[Trevorcard]

Boss battle, WTFs of LOS2....

Spoilers...

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There is a boss fight in the game, and I found it to be pretty awesome. One of the things I actually liked. However it was followed by a WTF moment.

You fight Victor Belmont, your decensdent. He behaves pretty much like you in the first game with your knives and such. It was just cool. But immediately after that, he drops a stone, and becomes a Giant and invincible. WTF?!

Looks kinda of similar in use to pillars that Cornell used in Lords of Shadow 1 in order to power himself. Could be wrong though.

Someone tell me what the fuck that is all about. Please. Because... seriously, if anything was just plainly retarded, that seems to be the winner.

[darkwzrd4]

I just finished the game and I didn't like it. The enemies fought in the city were generic and never really changed, the stealth sections were horrible, the ending sucked, and like in the other lords of shadow games the enemies took to long to kill.

I did however like the fact that you had three weapons each with its own skill set and special abilities.   Not to mention that the Victor fight was pretty cool. I mean the game actually gave us a Belmont vs. Dracula fight but we fought it while in control of Dracula this time.

Now I just hope that if the franchise keeps going that we either go back to the old cannon and finish it up (unlikely) or Konami hands to reins over to someone else like From Software or some other game developer and let them reboot it again. I really would like to see what someone else would do with it. See what they're vision of Castlevania is. I just don't want to see another metriodvania or another God of War clone. We need something different. Something fresh, but still somewhat faithful to the source material. You know, something beyond simple name drops (which is pretty much was Mercurysteam did).

[crisis]

some people dont wanna see another 3Dvania, metroidvania OR classicvania


so where does that leave us

[Dremn]

some people dont wanna see another 3Dvania, metroidvania OR classicvania


so where does that leave us

canceledvania and 4DVania

[theplottwist]

Boss battle, WTFs of LOS2....

Spoilers...

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There is a boss fight in the game, and I found it to be pretty awesome. One of the things I actually liked. However it was followed by a WTF moment.

You fight Victor Belmont, your decensdent. He behaves pretty much like you in the first game with your knives and such. It was just cool. But immediately after that, he drops a stone, and becomes a Giant and invincible. WTF?!

Someone tell me what the fuck that is all about. Please. Because... seriously, if anything was just plainly retarded, that seems to be the winner.

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^ My exact reaction when I got to this part. The stones are much like Cornell's indeed, since even the gimmick is the same.
I will never understand why the heck does he get giant like that.