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Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« on: April 09, 2014, 12:22:53 PM »
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What would your reaction be if the next CV would be for Vita? If it's indeed true that the next CV is going for the Japanese market it could be a possibility since the Vita is the most popular over there.

The leaked correspondence with a MercurySteam employee (who had access to the design document) seems to strongly hint at it. Though it's a bit difficult to understand because of the mangled English. He also mentions the 3DS, iOS, and Android. Not sure if those supposed to be alternative options or if they got something planned for those as well.

http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,6228.0.html

I wouldn't mind I guess. Then I could check out the system's already quite extensive RPG library.

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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2014, 12:32:32 PM »
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I think you know how I would feel. So excited that I would dance in the streets!

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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2014, 01:19:21 PM »
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it would be an illogical decision for konami to release a cv for the vita, esp. if its exclusive. the vita, while technically impressive & superior to the 3DS, just doesnt have the userbase to churn a profit for konami. look how poorly mof did on the 3ds, now imagine how bad it wouldve done had it been a vita exclusive. bomb would be putting it lightly

more people own a 3DS than they do a Vita so why would konami release a exclusive cv for a system that isnt doing so well sales-wise. psp was successful and of course ppl will say "well they released DXC for it" but i wonder how hard IGA had to push to get that game made? think about it

a cv game on vita would be visually awesome, especially if it was sprite-based like the metroidvanias but with IGA gone, i doubt theres anyone on the team left that are pushing for more sprite-based games. sorry but its the truth. however if by some miracle konami makes a brand new game just for vita then of course i'll purchase a vita for it. but am not holding my breath o.o;;

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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2014, 01:43:03 PM »
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The vita has a good enough user base to warrant an exclusive CV game. If it didn't, then there would be no 3rd party games for it, which there are aplenty.

The vita seriously makes the 3ds feel like it's a decade behind. It's superior in virtually everything. And the gaming library is better, IMO. It's not hard to imagine why konami would want to make a game for it (they kinda sorta did for psp).

Besides, it would likely be available for the PS3/4/vita, and maybe even feature cross controller like superfrog (which turns the ps3/4-vita basically into a wii u on steriods).

I'm telling you guys, once you have one of these things, you realize how freakin sweet they are. Not just as a portable, but as an accessory to your ps3/4 .

Just go buy one! Then you'll realize how badly you want a CV for the vita.



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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 04:52:37 PM »
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One of the main reasons I would buy a PS Vita is Ys Memories of Celceta, but if a CV game is released in that platform, I will think strongly in acquire one :).
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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2014, 05:00:32 PM »
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While the Vita is awesome, it would be a stupid idea release a CV for it, financially speaking. Unless the budget is really low and it's priced right, the game could, at best, get sales to pay for the development of the game.

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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2014, 05:04:33 PM »
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While the Vita is awesome, it would be a stupid idea release a CV for it, financially speaking. Unless the budget is really low and it's priced right, the game could, at best, get sales to pay for the development of the game.

Well, you can always port the game to the consoles (like RE "Revelaitions" :P, LoS MoF, or Arkham Origins Blackgate)...
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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2014, 05:59:38 PM »
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To me it sounds like they're targeting all the platforms listed ("In the worksheet put 3DS, Vita, iOS, Android, want to seize all platforms.")

The thing with Vita is, the install base is small, but at least in Japan, it's made up of people who ravenously buy niche games, leading to niche titles with relatively small budgets being able to make a profit there, which is why stuff like Toukiden, Demon's Gaze, Mind=Zero, and the like are able to release exclusively on the Vita.

What doesn't quite make sense is to only target the Vita if they want the game to be a big hit in Japan. I'd think all the platforms he listed would be smart to target if they were going for Japan, although a PS3 port as well might be smart too given that a lot of Japanese games are going PS3/Vita lately like Dragon's Crown, Deception IV, FFX/X2, Natural Doctrine, Ragnarok Odyssey ACE, etc. But the iOS and Android being there would lead me to think that maybe it's not intended to even be the type of game someone would play on a home console--it may be very pick up and play or casualish. Assuming that leaked info is correct as far as what platforms they're going after, the main thing I'd worry about is whether the game would be any good if it's being tailored to work on iOS and Android which limits potential control complexity.

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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2014, 08:50:31 PM »
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this guy makes a lot of good points

The PlayStation Vita "Will Die A Slow, Painful Death."

Yeah he makes a lot of good points if you're a person who spends a lot of time at home, lives alone, and doesn't have to share a TV with other people.

The idea that the vita is useless because you can play the same games on a console is ridiculous because it's missing the whole point. The point is you can play it anywhere, any time, without a television. That's the whole point of a portable gaming systems to begin with! Yes, of course you can play those games on a console as well! Sony promotes that idea with cross-buy and cross-save features between the vita and ps3 versions of games.

He's also not mentioning how different of an experience playing games on the vita can be. With a touch screen and backside touch sensor. 90% of the entire surface area of the device is a control. It is a very unique and different experience than what you get on a console.

That guy in the video was not making points, he was missing them.

The reason the 3ds is selling way more than the vita is simple. It's the kids man. Parents buy those things for their kids so their kids won't bug them to use their cell phones. I've seen it first hand many, many times. Yes, I know adults buy them too, and even I bought one (and sold it). But still, everyone knows that kids make up the majority of the 3ds market.

The vita is an expensive device to buy for a kid who is going to eat cheet-o's and then get their hands all over it.

If you're someone who loves quality video games but is finding it increasingly difficult in your life to find the opportunity to play them, the vita is the device for you.

If you would rather have a Castlevania game on less comfortable, less powerful system, then I don't understand you and would suspect that you already own a 3ds and don't want to pay the price for a vita. But there can be no question that CV on the vita would be a more enjoyable experience because the vita has much better feel and is a superior piece of technology by leaps and bounds. I don't really think that's disputable.

And by the way, those blue tooth controls for android and ios only work with a very limited selection of games (mostly gameloft games). So if you like playing cheap knock-offs of your favorite games, cramming a controller in your pocket, and struggling to position your phone... then by all means, take that route. But I can tell you from first hand experience that it doesn't hold a candle to the vita, nor does the 3ds.










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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2014, 10:30:06 PM »
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this guy makes a lot of good points

The PlayStation Vita "Will Die A Slow, Painful Death."

CFW will save it, it made PSP the second best handheld ever, it gave it a GBA emulator, the best handheld ever!

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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2014, 11:21:40 PM »
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I might acquire a vita, but it would still depend on the Castlevania that will be released. I don't want to be burned by another MoF.

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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2014, 08:29:09 AM »
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I sold my vita and don't care to get another one, so if a CV game comes only on the vita I'll probably won't be playing it.

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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2014, 10:04:39 AM »
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I actually didn't mind the Vita. I was pleasantly surprised by it. The only reason I bought one was to play Ys IV. however I've only played that game once as I was sooooo let down by it. I felt it was a betrayal of the original Ys IV: Mask of the Sun. If CV does come to the Vita I'll have to see what kind of CV game it's going to be first, Like Shiroi Koumori had stated.
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Re: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2014, 02:31:26 AM »
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My reaction if/when it happens: It's about goddamn time Konami! Finally, something other than DXC, SOTN, and Chronicles to keep me busy on my Vita!
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