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Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« on: April 10, 2014, 02:13:32 PM »
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So yeah, it's pretty infamous how CV fans reacted to seeing Obata's take on Castlevania's characters. Other than Cornell and Aeon, nobody liked any of the designs at all. Since then, however, they've grown on me. I've actually started to straight-up like them (except Maria. Nobody can like that). Upon reflection, I'm surprised Alucard's and Shanoa's designs weren't lumped with Cornell's and Aeon's as 'not too shabby, really.'

Anybody else feel the same?

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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 02:34:36 PM »
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they still suck

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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2014, 02:36:26 PM »
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They suck more

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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2014, 02:51:45 PM »
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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 02:54:19 PM »
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They suck more

How so? You mean in relation to what we've seen with the Lords series?

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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2014, 02:57:44 PM »
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Aeon needs to lose the lipstick and makeup if he's even remotely going to be publicly acceptable  :P

I don't mind Shanoa's look. She's one of the very, very few (perhaps the only one) that seems normal out of the batch.

Both Simon and Trevor look far too alike. No variations on their designs. And to rub salt on the wound they look like pimps who lost their way after leaving their male stripper club.

Grant... ugh. What's nice to say about his design...if that's even remotely possible. He looks like a mummy and that's not Grant. Take that god-awful corps back to Egypt and bury it but good. I'd rather see Grant sporting a fancy set of swash-buckling privateer threads.

I won't go into detail about the others since there's lot's to cover, however generally I dislike the outfits as I feel they don't suit the characters. Of course the story is another matter entirely that I also dislike. The Grant-Sypha-Trevor love triangle bulls**t was not in CV III so what the hell was the writer thinking  :P :P :P
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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 03:13:35 PM »
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It's a mixed bag. Most characters suffer from over-design. Maybe it's also because you can't help to compare them to their superior designs from their previous appearances. Also, Obata's style doesn't match with IGA's take on the series at all. They might as well have been different characters entirely. I wouldn't mind another shameless animu CV with original designs by Obata or somebody else, though.   

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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2014, 04:40:08 PM »
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Trevor Beltmont IMO, was fine. I mean, he was just as ridiculous as Simon with all those belts, but he was alright. I liked the eyepatch. Was a natural evolution of the scar.

Carmilla gets a pass because boobs

I'm also in that very small minority that liked Shanoa's nun design.
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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2014, 04:47:31 PM »
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How so? You mean in relation to what we've seen with the Lords series?
Not only because of the Lords series, it's that it stands as the hardest try the series ever had. I mean, let's make a review of styles.

Barbarian


Detailed Anime


Preciosist gothic.


Bland Anime


Gothic/detailed anime


Gothic western


Fuck Iwata's Anime


See, every other style (barring Dawn/Por's because it's super terrible too) while varied it evokes the same sense of power and darkness, that is completely absent from Obata's design. It absolutely robed the dignity of every character. He just created the charactes from scratch disregarding any symbology or even relation to the world, and to be honest they come off more like sadomasochistic fantasies.

As you can see by seeing them side by side, it sucks more because it sticks out more than any other.

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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2014, 04:54:08 PM »
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No Offense, but Death Note was Garbage. and I don't want Castlevania, a Series that has a higher degree of Art, resembles this crap.

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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2014, 05:29:25 PM »
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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2014, 05:39:18 PM »
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So yeah, it's pretty infamous how CV fans reacted to seeing Obata's take on Castlevania's characters. Other than Cornell and Aeon, nobody liked any of the designs at all. Since then, however, they've grown on me. I've actually started to straight-up like them (except Maria. Nobody can like that). Upon reflection, I'm surprised Alucard's and Shanoa's designs weren't lumped with Cornell's and Aeon's as 'not too shabby, really.'

Anybody else feel the same?

Cornell rocked and I love Sypha much better than her pachi-slot version which made her a magical girl.
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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2014, 06:33:29 PM »
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No Offense, but Death Note was Garbage. and I don't want Castlevania, a Series that has a higher degree of Art, resembles this crap.
The anime, itself, was kinda pretentious. The style, for the anime, worked. For Castlevania, it doesn't.

I still think the major reason they hired Obata was to get that Death Note cred. It was one of the "popular" anime of the time, in Japan and with weeaboos alike. Hell, if they were going for that, they could've also hired the artist for Bleach or Naruto(while they were at it). LOL! ;D

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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2014, 06:53:47 PM »
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The anime, itself, was kinda pretentious. The style, for the anime, worked. For Castlevania, it doesn't.

I still think the major reason they hired Obata was to get that Death Note cred. It was one of the "popular" anime of the time, in Japan and with weeaboos alike. Hell, if they were going for that, they could've also hired the artist for Bleach or Naruto(while they were at it). LOL! ;D

Kubo could have probably come up with something way better than Obata.

Not that I think it would be better than Kojima or the MS boys, but it would have been better than Obata.

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Re: Current thoughts on Obata's character designs?
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2014, 07:14:17 PM »
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Obata is a pretty good artist but his take on Castlevania is still the low point of his career, that's not changing.


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