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The sexism of Shovel Knight
« on: August 26, 2014, 01:19:56 PM »
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I've been in a debate for a couple weeks over whether or not Shield Knight's design in Shovel Knight is sexist. An agent provocateur has alleged that Shield Knight's exposed face is sexist. Because...you can't hide a pretty face. On the other hand at least three other Knights in the game (Polar Knight, Gaz, and that forgettable shonen type guy) have exposed faces as well. I think saying that Shield Knight's design being sexist is utterly goofy, but men of mystery say that it's a valid criticism. What do you all think?

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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2014, 01:29:49 PM »
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I...this...okay, that's just being silly. I mean seriously, what the hell? That's just plain nitpicking right there. The artstyle just doesn't lend to that argument. Either that guy's trolling or he's plain nucking futs.
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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2014, 01:42:55 PM »
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who said that? a feminazi?
i´m sick of all those idiots, they must have too much free time.
they should do something better and more productive with their free time.

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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2014, 01:54:57 PM »
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I can't really say because they (used to) post here, and I wasn't interested in calling them out or anything. I just really wanted to know if I was missing something with the design.

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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2014, 02:06:49 PM »
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Grasping at straws with that one.
I'd sooner entertain the feminazi rhetoric about Zero Suit Samus.
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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2014, 02:11:36 PM »
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And here I though the argument would spin around the "Knight saves princess" trope, because it feels sexist how she couldn't save herself despite being a knight and still needing a male knight to do it.

But no, they always aim for the ridiculous arguments.

Of note: I find nothing in Shovel Knight even slightly sexist. The argument I proposed would be their strongest hand in arguing about this supposed sexism.
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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2014, 02:16:04 PM »
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I can't really say because they (used to) post here, and I wasn't interested in calling them out or anything. I just really wanted to know if I was missing something with the design.

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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2014, 02:19:17 PM »
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And here I though the argument would spin around the "Knight saves princess" trope, because it feels sexist how she couldn't save herself despite being a knight and still needing a male knight to do it.

But no, they always aim for the ridiculous arguments.

Of note: I find nothing in Shovel Knight even slightly sexist. The argument I proposed would be their strongest hand in arguing about this supposed sexism.

There in is the problem.
There is nothing inherently sexist about anyone saving anyone else that is in trouble.
They would both be stupid arguments that do nothing more than help to create the inequality that is being fought.
I used to think of my self as a feminist, but the word itself is a polarizing term that is inherently divisive.
I'm an equalist, and poking around at fictional characters in a video game when there are for more important aspects of our society that need to be corrected (equal pay for women, racial profiling) is just ignorant and insulting.
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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2014, 02:30:49 PM »
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I'm at a loss for words about this. I can't even make a proper comparison or sarcastic metaphor about it.
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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2014, 03:54:46 PM »
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This makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever. Did this person (if we can call 'em that) do their own research about the history of medieval warfare? The closed helmet design and the open-faced helmet design have both existed since antiquity. There's absolutely nothing sexist about that. Different helmets for different tasks or just your preference. It sounds like this "Boob" is just looking to start another flame war because he's bored.
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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2014, 04:12:26 PM »
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I can't really say because they (used to) post here
it was me, dio

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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2014, 04:24:57 AM »
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Another round of talk on sexism? Goodness people, stop it. This is getting old.

As for the helmet design, I think it is much easier to see with an open-faced helmet than a closed one.

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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2014, 01:00:27 PM »
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Now that we are openly talking about sexism, I think that the forum image header is sexist, because it presents more men than women characters..j/k   :P





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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2014, 07:10:50 PM »
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Now that we are openly talking about sexism, I think that the forum image header is sexist, because it presents more men than women characters..j/k   :P





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Re: The sexism of Shovel Knight
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2014, 10:29:16 PM »
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should I write a fanfic about it?

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