Topic: Dave Cox leaves Konami

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

I'm a little indifferent to IGA on this note: He's made both good and bad decisions with CV. But dispite all that his games still felt like Castlevania. I cannot say the same thing about Cox as he lied to us about several key things we wanted to know concerning LoS1 before it was even released. Despite that I bought the game and gave it a try. And I very seldom do that with regards to shaken confidence in developers. But unlike Cox IGA was at least being honest with with what he wanted to share with us (putting aside the 1999 game).

Well put X, I completely agree with this guy here^^^

Now onto Cox Leaving Konami, could not be any happier, hopefully this means the Contra reboot gets canned since honestly I did not expect him and MS to do a good job anyway.

[BLOOD MONKEY]

Dave Cox @kiddracul  ·  1h

After seventeen years I have decided to leave Konami to explore new opportunities. Today is my final day with the company #endofanera

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[Kingshango]

So Hideo Kojima to be the head of every single Konami franchise from here on out? He's already got Metal Gear, Policenauts, Zone of Enders, Boktai and Snatcher under his belt and that's already alot. Now he's head of Silent Hill, he's already dipped into Castlevania already (though it would shock me at all if Konami approached him to fully develop a Castlevania game) and now Contra could be the next in line to be Kojimafied.

It's like Kojima Productions is consuming Konami from the inside out, I have never seen a company rely on a single man like this before, I almost feel bad for him.

On the otherhand a 2.5D Castlevania running on the Fox Engine would be pretty fucking sweet.

[The Puritan]

"Farewell then. We'll not meet again."

On the other hand, if Castlevania gets a good renaissance after this, I'll grudgingly look back on Cox as the torchbearer. The guy who kept things going after the end of the IGA years.

[Flame]

you guys harbor way too much ill will towards Cox.

weird as he was, he was at least a fan of the series and genuinely did want to make something good with LoS. And I stand by LoS1 being a very good game and CV game. what happened post LoS1 is really hardly his fault.

Consider his original pitch was Super Castlevania 4 3D remake.

And a few elements of that ARE in LoS1

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

you guys harbor way too much ill will towards Cox.

I beg to differ, the ill will on my end is well founded, the guy lies to darn much about important things concerning his titles.

That is obviously going to rub fans the wrong way.

[Belmontoya]

I couldn't care less what a developer says or doesn't say between the release of a game. Nothing Cox said ever effected my opinions on his games. It's either a good game or it's not, the rest doesn't matter to me.

LOS1 was great. Everything else LOS was not. So at this point, because his series was spiraling downward,  I'm glad to see him go.

I just hope that Konami gives us some sort of confirmation of a new Castlevania game in the near future. That's all I really care about.

[BLOOD MONKEY]

LOS1 was great. Everything else LOS was not. So at this point, because his series was spiraling downward,  I'm glad to see him go.

I completely agree.

[Shiroi Koumori]

you guys harbor way too much ill will towards Cox.

We all know he was a fan of the series and there's nothing wrong with that but I hated him for his lies. He should have stayed silent than spew out lies on top of lies and generate unfounded hype.

[theplottwist]

you guys harbor way too much ill will towards Cox.

And you're way too lenient with PR and Game Designing incompetence.

weird as he was, he was at least a fan of the series and genuinely did want to make something good with LoS. And I stand by LoS1 being a very good game and CV game. what happened post LoS1 is really hardly his fault. Consider his original pitch was Super Castlevania 4 3D remake.

He was a fan, but this doesn't make him competent to create a good CV game. Being a fan means crap, to be honest, and in his case it even aggravated his position.
"So you're a fan and made this shit? Imagine what would be of the game if you weren't a fan".

And also, I never read that it should be a Super Castlevania 4 remake anywhere. I did see the pitch trailer, and it was a supposed Simon killing a monster. Nothing new there. If he really wanted to make the game be awesome, he would. Instead he let Alvarez do whatever the hell he wanted.

I do agree that LoS1 was cool. But it wasn't a Castlevania. And I was not refusing it either: I was hyped like a christian on rapture day. The game was a humongous let down as a Castlevania, but an awesome game as something else.

My ill will against Cox is that he was weak on his guidance of the series, and conducted PR like a freaking imbecile.

[Claimh Solais]

Consider his original pitch was Super Castlevania 4 3D remake.

Actually, it was CV1. Though technically it's the same thing since they're both the same story anyway. CV4, though, was a heavy inspiration for them for LoS, they referred to it as the "bible" for LoS or something. I dunno.

I like LoS. One of my favorite hack-n-slash games. MoF was a fun game, too. LoS2 was a heavy ass disappointment.

[Nagumo]

So Hideo Kojima to be the head of every single Konami franchise from here on out? He's already got Metal Gear, Policenauts, Zone of Enders, Boktai and Snatcher under his belt and that's already alot. Now he's head of Silent Hill, he's already dipped into Castlevania already (though it would shock me at all if Konami approached him to fully develop a Castlevania game) and now Contra could be the next in line to be Kojimafied.

It's like Kojima Productions is consuming Konami from the inside out, I have never seen a company rely on a single man like this before, I almost feel bad for him.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm waiting when he executes a coup and gasses the entire board of directors or something. 

Anyway, KojimaVania is closer than it's ever been. I can't help but wonder what that would be like. Yoji Skinkawa might be a good character designer for a Castlevania game. I really like his style.

They could always ask back one of the people who worked on the series previously. Ueno and Hagihara are suits now, so they probably wouldn't want to return. CotM's producer is still around, I think. I'm not sure who else they could ask.   

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

And you're way too lenient with PR and Game Designing incompetence.
He was a fan, but this doesn't make him competent to create a good CV game. Being a fan means crap, to be honest, and in his case it even aggravated his position.
"So you're a fan and made this shit? Imagine what would be of the game if you weren't a fan".

Haha, basically.  The guy just wanted to rip up the canon and start it over.  A valiant attempt, too.  Unfortunately, Alvarez took that and ran it straight into a wall.

And also, I never read that it should be a Super Castlevania 4 remake anywhere. I did see the pitch trailer, and it was a supposed Simon killing a monster. Nothing new there. If he really wanted to make the game be awesome, he would. Instead he let Alvarez do whatever the hell he wanted.

Yeah, most of the decisions, from what I've read, were on Alvarez's direction, with Cox as some kind of supervisor or something.  That's kind of a hands-off approach.  Most of what people dislike about LoS can be attributed to Alvarez, including forcing the Hollywood Musical Score angle on Araujo instead of the poppin' kickass tunes of the older CV's.

I do agree that LoS1 was cool. But it wasn't a Castlevania. And I was not refusing it either: I was hyped like a christian on rapture day. The game was a humongous let down as a Castlevania, but an awesome game as something else.

That's pretty much its problem.  Great game.  Mediocre CV game.  The segments that were the most like CV were either downloadable content, or were just in 1/3 of the main mission (LoS1).

My ill will against Cox is that he was weak on his guidance of the series, and conducted PR like a freaking imbecile.

The PR really bit him in the ass. Most people have a bad taste in their mouth from the Q&A he had conducted.

[zangetsu468]

I like LoS. One of my favorite hack-n-slash games. MoF was a fun game, too. LoS2 was a heavy ass disappointment.

Really, LOS2 is worse than MOF? Holy crap, what did I buy... Think I might leave it in the plastic wrap.

[beingthehero]

The PR really bit him in the ass. Most people have a bad taste in their mouth from the Q&A he had conducted.

I think just about all his Q&A's and interviews were pretty bad. Also him being a smartass on twitter to the most innocuous of questions didn't help.