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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2015, 08:41:10 PM »
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FFVIII is my favorite in the series. Maybe one day they'll remake it, I hope!

Whatever.

For this remake, they should just remake the graphics... seriously, just remake the models, UI, enviroments, cgs/cutscenes...
Not before FFVI and FFV...

... seriously....

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“Considering that we have remakes of Final Fantasy up to IV and then we have VII — I’ve been working with Mr. [Yoshinori] Kitase since Final Fantasy V, and we’ve noticed that V and VI are missing. That bothers me,” Nomura said. “How come we skipped over those two?”

Source: http://venturebeat.com/2015/06/17/nomura-wants-more-final-fantasy-remakes-but-not-from-the-playstation-era/

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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2015, 10:08:48 PM »
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Wonder if they r going keep the cross-dressing part in the new build..?

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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2015, 10:19:37 PM »
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Wonder if they r going keep the cross-dressing part in the new build..?

They already confirmed it'll be in the game. :P
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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2015, 08:00:37 AM »
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FUCK YEAH LOOKS LIKE MUKKI'S AROUND TO STAY

Although if they're keeping that in (thank god)...Corneo's gonna just be vile. He was creepy enough in blocky renders, but lifelike CGI renders?

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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2015, 08:31:42 AM »
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That article just destroyed any possible hype boner I might have potential had.
"It's not a simple remake"
Then why the fuck call it that in the reveal teaser?

The problem here is that what people want IS a straight remake. All they had to do was spruce up the script, fix bugs, and add some bonus content and everyone would have been happy. And it should have happened 10 years ago.

I have a feeling this is going to end up like the weird remake of FF4 on DS only even weirder and more wrong-ish feeling.

The best remakes of any final fantasy games are the Anniversary games and the FF4 Collection on PSP. I want that treatment for FF3, FF5, and FF6. (No I don't count the iOS/Android versions of FF5 & FF6 because they look like ass.) So just apply that same philosophy to FF7 and it's all good. But no, they HAVE to "evolve" it. I hate that word in reference to remakes because that usually means a shift to another sub-genre. If they are taking this long to make this game then they can't just be rewriting the story and scenario. It simply doesn't take that long. Mark my words they are fucking with the game play. And in light of the recent entries in the series it's going to be more of the same garbage.

PS- Oh, and expect the entire game's palette to be black and teal. Apparently, having a bright varied palette is a sin against "serious" game design now. God forbid my FANTASY RPG with the word FANTASY in the title should look like anything other than real life.


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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2015, 12:11:58 PM »
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We've long since seen that Squeenix's head is so far up its own ass it could write its memoir and perform its colonoscopy at the same time.

These are the people who C&D'd Chrono Trigger Resurrection simply because they didn't think of it first (I refuse to accept any other reason) and allowed Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberusto be made.


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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2015, 04:17:37 PM »
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I happen to genuinely like FF7 and regard it as my favorite RPG. I wasn't even born when it came out. :P
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« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2015, 08:23:19 PM »
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ppl have been literally begging for an FF7 remake for years, over a decade
now that its happening, ppl are saying "noo theyre gonna ruin it." go figure

ive always thought the notion of a FF7 remake was a BAD idea, just for this reason. the fanbase is fickle & can never truly be pleased. they would ask for it to be 100% like the original with ALL ITS FLAWS, just update the graphics. and still complain because all they did was update the graphics & nothing else

on the flipside they fix the flaws & correct things & make necessary gameplay changes that will make it more accessable for this new generation, then the fanbase will cry fowl on how they changed it too much & it was "perfect as it is." see where im getting at? square enix literally cannot win

the odds are stacked against them. they finally gave into the fanbases demands & now theres literally no way they can live up to those demands, b/c once the game is released everyone is gonna rip it apart & condemn squarenix for even trying

what they SHOULDVE done, in my opinion, is instead of remaking/enhancing FF7, they shoulda said screw that & just make a FFVII-2. that way it'll be its own beast, built from the ground up & having the original as its backbone. they wont have to adhere to certain aspects of the original that they "HAD TO TRANSLATE 110% PERFECT FOR US" becuz sequels allow for them to try new things. none of the "THEY ADDED STUFF/THEY TOOK AWAY STUFF" complaints that FFVII ps4 is inevitably gonna be cursed with by the fans

FF7-2 couldve served as a sure fire end to the entire story. close out every arc & answer every remaining question that the Compilation has done. everything that has happened in Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, even the FF7 epilogue that takes place 500 years in the future, EVERYTHING from beginning to end. close genesis' story, reveal Sephiroth's final fate, etc. TRUE closure so they can close that book & finally move on.

so yeah. FF7 "remake" is a mistake & squarenix has a long uphill battle thats impossible to win. as for me personally? i loved the original till this day & im sure im gonna love this one, too. im easy to please, after all. game came out in 1997 and its still being talked about almost 20 years later. love it or hate it, nobody can deny its everlasting legacy on the gaming industry.

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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2015, 08:25:24 PM »
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At the risk of the lynch mob, I do agree FFVII is to Final Fantasy what SOTN is to Castlevania, a radical change of the series roots in hopes to reinvigorate the series. And by sales numbers and critical acclaim, they accomplished this. I just feel both are heavily overhyped, though I do feel SOTN is the stronger game. For the fans sake, I hope it is what everyone wants. I'm interested to see how it shapes up, but I've let my nostalgia boner blind me too many times and end up being heavily disappointed. I personally feel when companies remake games, they should look to the Earthworm Jim remake. It was a straight hd remake. Fans don't want the same game with a different gameplay style when they demand remakes. I want a Resident Evil 2 remake so bad it makes my balls chafe. But I know Capcom would most likely take the RE4 presentation route. They only are hdifying the REmake and Zero the way they are because they were already made, same as RE4. It's so sad to see companies say "we hear you fans!" And totally botch it. Now, this is all speculation and merely my opinion because no gameplay was revealed. Again, I hope everyone gets what they truly want, but Squares track record tells me otherwise. If they DO a straight remake, I will eagerly buy it. But I think they feel the turn based style is outdated and won't do it. But hey, publishers know what fans want right? It's not like Konami said no one wanted the metroidvania style or Bloodstained proved them wrong or anything. :)

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« Reply #54 on: June 18, 2015, 08:56:42 PM »
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ppl have been literally begging for an FF7 remake for years, over a decade
now that its happening, ppl are saying "noo theyre gonna ruin it." go figure

ive always thought the notion of a FF7 remake was a BAD idea, just for this reason. the fanbase is fickle & can never truly be pleased. they would ask for it to be 100% like the original with ALL ITS FLAWS, just update the graphics. and still complain because all they did was update the graphics & nothing else

on the flipside they fix the flaws & correct things & make necessary gameplay changes that will make it more accessable for this new generation, then the fanbase will cry fowl on how they changed it too much & it was "perfect as it is." see where im getting at? square enix literally cannot win

the odds are stacked against them. they finally gave into the fanbases demands & now theres literally no way they can live up to those demands, b/c once the game is released everyone is gonna rip it apart & condemn squarenix for even trying

what they SHOULDVE done, in my opinion, is instead of remaking/enhancing FF7, they shoulda said screw that & just make a FFVII-2. that way it'll be its own beast, built from the ground up & having the original as its backbone. they wont have to adhere to certain aspects of the original that they "HAD TO TRANSLATE 110% PERFECT FOR US" becuz sequels allow for them to try new things. none of the "THEY ADDED STUFF/THEY TOOK AWAY STUFF" complaints that FFVII ps4 is inevitably gonna be cursed with by the fans

FF7-2 couldve served as a sure fire end to the entire story. close out every arc & answer every remaining question that the Compilation has done. everything that has happened in Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, even the FF7 epilogue that takes place 500 years in the future, EVERYTHING from beginning to end. close genesis' story, reveal Sephiroth's final fate, etc. TRUE closure so they can close that book & finally move on.

so yeah. FF7 "remake" is a mistake & squarenix has a long uphill battle thats impossible to win. as for me personally? i loved the original till this day & im sure im gonna love this one, too. im easy to please, after all. game came out in 1997 and its still being talked about almost 20 years later. love it or hate it, nobody can deny its everlasting legacy on the gaming industry.

This is pretty much the reason why i went. "Oh God. Really?" also this.

https://youtu.be/4KoqO_1xxnE

He actually brings some fair points that I can understand and agree to a point. Regardless... Square Enix can't afford to botch this game up at all. They will never recover if they do.

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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2015, 11:54:18 PM »
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Like I said, even if the remake sucks, there is still the original with nothing wrong with it.
The most that they'll do with it is add more plots involving the rest of the FF7 saga, probably a bonus Genesis fight, a few Zack flashbacks, and a few things like that.
As long as everything that is present in the original is there, I have no real issues, no cut content.
The Battle system will however change, no avoiding it, I just hope it's more in-line of FFX,X-2, than FFXIII,XII-2. Controlling all characters is important.
The Materia system might see a revamp heavily borrowing from Crisis Core, Which will probably good.


But the boiling point in making this remake work of not is the most important aspect. Story and Characters, screw this up and everything falls apart, so let's not go advent children and fuck up Cloud, okay?

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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2015, 02:41:35 AM »
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probably a bonus Genesis fight

Please no. I'll take emo Cloud over that any day.

The less Genesis the better. They should just completely retcon him and Dirge of Cerberus while they're at it.
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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2015, 03:03:08 AM »
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As a previous poster said FFVII to Squenix is like CV SOTN to Konami.
If Konami ever decided to do a complete remake of SOTN, everyone would be all over it jumping with joy. 
I can't believe there are people whinging about this like it's a bad thing.

Squenix need to reinvigorate their franchise and look ahead of FFXV, what better way than to do FFVII the way it was supposed to be done? FFVII is one of the greatest games of all time, let the original have its charm and be untouched, but it deserves this.
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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2015, 04:57:57 PM »
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You assume square is going to do it the way "it was supposed to be done", but the entire reason that the game became popular was the way it was actually done. I really don't think most people want the game to be completely overhauled. I sure don't. I want updated graphics, bug fixes, revised script that cleans up any plot holes, and a competent translation. I don't need the game play to be changed at all except to prevent some of the game breaking materia combos.
That said, I have no faith that this will be the case.

And someone mentioned how the fans would go wild if SotN got a remake... sure as long as they wouldn't decide to change it into a run and gun platformer or 3D action game.

This isn't such a complicated thing to accomplish. What makes a good remake? Look at SCV4 and CV Chronicles. Those are good remakes. Maverick Hunter X that's a good remake. Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals? That is a BAD remake, and that is what I'm afraid is going to happen.
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Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2015, 06:15:09 PM »
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SCVIV is a remake?  :o

Another thing to consider is that there's content in the original that'd be considered too risque nowadays...like the gay bodybuilder who's all over you and is implied to have taken advantage of you while you were unconscious, or the girls in the skimpy little bee suits that would send the feminist forces into a frenzy.


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