Topic: Does HoD suck?

[Mystic Myotis]

I think that HoD could really use a remake.  It has a lot of flaws, but it's so cool from a conceptual standpoint, and the story is actually pretty good despite being the typical "the girl has been abducted go save girl" fare.

[Crying Freeman]

I think that HoD could really use a remake.  It has a lot of flaws, but it's so cool from a conceptual standpoint, and the story is actually pretty good despite being the typical "the girl has been abducted go save girl" fare.

I can see that being really good. PoR gave you the whip and weapon pick ups so it can be done. Either that or make more tips for the whip to find through the game and build the game more around the whip feeling like what the games built around, ie strategy by using certain tips in certain places for better results.

[Zuljaras]

HoD is amazing (at least for me). The only thing that it is lacking is the New Game+ mode. This is the best thing in every Castlevania game that has it

[zangetsu468]

HoD does what Konami don't

That's right... I went there 

[Crying Freeman]

Playing through HOD and LOI atm, and I hate the fact I started this topic cus I actually am digging the game now... Guess too long since I played it (like 5 years ago) and when I was younger I wasn't as good at the metroidvanias, like I never equiped new gear, I just sorta run and gunned with the weapons I had.

The dashing system is TONS better than SOTN, and it makes going through environments really fun and satisfying.

The whip is actually fun to use with the occasional upgrades.

Next to Castlevania 4, HOD is my second favorite in terms of atmosphere. It's creepy, cinematic, and invokes the feeling of being in an inescapable, danger everywhere, one slip up you're screwed environment with tons of history behind it, something I think CV4 did the best. Game seems to have been inspired by our SNES buddy.

The music, while I thought was a bit weird being like chiptunes, is extremely awesome, especially while playing. The castle entrance, sort of "doomed" song(can't name it off the top of my head) and clocktower themes are fantastic.

So far the stories good, and I like the characters. It's nothing amazing, but they're likable and the stories interesting. I also love Juste's need to decorate that room, makes me laugh, good lighthearted humor.

Only thing negative so far are the controls and some sprites. The control isn't as good as other metroidvanias and the sprites look a bit underwhelming, though I suppose it makes them pop out more against the fantastic looking environments.

Yeah, I went back on my word... Fuck it, I think it's a great game lol.

[zangetsu468]

Playing through HOD and LOI atm, and I hate the fact I started this topic cus I actually am digging the game now... Guess too long since I played it (like 5 years ago) and when I was younger I wasn't as good at the metroidvanias, like I never equiped new gear, I just sorta run and gunned with the weapons I had.

A decent way of making these games harder for any who dare to dabble.

The dashing system is TONS better than SOTN, and it makes going through environments really fun and satisfying.

Agree, I found Sotn's dash pretty slow and useless, still better than not having it. Forward dashing was the best prior to AoS getting Black Panther.

Next to Castlevania 4, HOD is my second favorite in terms of atmosphere. It's creepy, cinematic, and invokes the feeling of being in an inescapable, danger everywhere, one slip up you're screwed environment with tons of history behind it, something I think CV4 did the best. Game seems to have been inspired by our SNES buddy.

It's got that 'campy' Dracula horror film feel without being a "horror" game.

The music, while I thought was a bit weird being like chiptunes, is extremely awesome, especially while playing. The castle entrance, sort of "doomed" song(can't name it off the top of my head) and clocktower themes are fantastic.

Marble Gallery's Offense and Defense is my favourite. Like Jorge's Arrangement too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zsV113dfnI

Only thing negative so far are the controls and some sprites. The control isn't as good as other metroidvanias and the sprites look a bit underwhelming, though I suppose it makes them pop out more against the fantastic looking environments.

The blue outline makes Juste look like a smurf, but seriously on the first GBA it was so hard to see while playing Cotm (one criticism that seems to escape it) that when you picked this up you knew exactly why. It also looks much different on a handheld.

Yeah, I went back on my word... Fuck it, I think it's a great game lol.

Simply because a game isn't executed as well as others or doesn't have the production, sure doesn't prevent us from liking what we like. Out of Cotm/ HoD I know Cotm is technically a better game in a lot of aspects but I'd prefer HoD in a heartbeat (aka savepoint). Same dea with LOI/ COD. Imo LOI is the better game but I'd much rather play COD. (I must have a thing for chairs and decorating rooms)

I was actually quite blown away at the time of HoD that konami had tried to emulate Sotn and done a pretty decent job on GBA of all consoles at its time of release.

[Crying Freeman]

I was actually quite blown away at the time of HoD that konami had tried to emulate Sotn and done a pretty decent job on GBA of all consoles at its time of release.

I know exactly what u mean. It's like with movies; A film like Casino Royale is definitely better than a film like Moonraker, but CR is a film you have to be invested in and it means something while Moonraker is purely fun entertainment.

[Nagumo]

Yeah, I went back on my word... Fuck it, I think it's a great game lol.

And all is right with the world again.

[zangetsu468]

And all is right with the world again.

It must be, I started playing Maxim mode last night

[zangetsu468]

This discussion has inspired me.

I have decided to embark on a 'hardgame' playthrough of HoD.
I'm not picking up any Life/ MP/ Heart-Max up's and I'm abstaining from equipping ANY gear: tunic, mail, whip tips, boots, etc.

[Crying Freeman]

This discussion has inspired me.

I have decided to embark on a 'hardgame' playthrough of HoD.
I'm not picking up any Life/ MP/ Heart-Max up's and I'm abstaining from equipping ANY gear: tunic, mail, whip tips, boots, etc.

Good luck, man. I know I'd tare my hair out if I attempted that in any metroidvania XD

[zangetsu468]

Thanks Freeman. Beat the bat end boss last night and have died a few times trying to get out of dead ends. 64 hp and 37 hearts isn't exactly a lot

[Crying Freeman]

Thanks Freeman. Beat the bat end boss last night and have died a few times trying to get out of dead ends. 64 hp and 37 hearts isn't exactly a lot

Any time, man. And no, that aint quite enough 

[JayDominus]

Yeah, yeah it sucks. It's like Symphony of the Night with serial numbers filed off and minus the quality.

[zangetsu468]

The thing I don't like is that there are a lot of dead ends and it's quite linear in essence while playing as Juste.