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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2015, 10:06:21 PM »
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Yeah, I am definitely probably getting the special edition of the movie when it comes out.

I really hope that now that George Lucas is out we'll never have to put up with another damn "Special" edition ever again.

The movie is as perfect as it needs to be and shouldn't be changed just because people have the ability to. This isn't a videogame and so it doesn't need patches or DLC.

They should just focus on making the next one as good as they can.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2015, 06:11:16 PM »
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Welp. Saw the film. My sister took me to see it as a birthday prez. In other words I didn't need to pay XD

I like the movie to say the least. It is definitely more watchable then the prequels, and I liked the humorous moments as well. I'm definitely on board for the next film whenever it'll be made.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2015, 06:51:58 PM »
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was one of the planets Starkiller Base blew up Coruscant? It kinda looked like it was but not 100% sure. If so then that's kinda a big deal since Coruscant was pretty much the "capital" planet of the Star Wars galaxy. General Hux did say they would eliminate the remaining of the Republic, so it would make sense for them to destroy Naboo, etc. since that was what those planets stood for in the prequels


Apparently during Rey's flashback scene of past events of the SW saga, you can hear Obi Wan as voiced by Ewan McGregor saying "Rey, these are your first steps..." among other voices such as Luke screaming from ESB. perhaps it was Obi that told her to use Jedi Mind Trick in that 1 scene with James Bondthat Storm Trooper

They named the system that was destroyed and it isn't Coruscant. They moved the capitol of the Republic after the fall of the Empire and my understanding is that they Periodically move the capitol to a different planet every few years as a sort of term of service thing.
So the capitol of the New Republic and it's fleet were destroyed, but it may not take too long to recover from that.

As for the voices in the Force Vision Rey had, you hear Darth Vader's breath, Yoda, Luke, and they edited a line spoken by Alec Guiness so that you Hear the original Obi-wan actor say "Rey". On top of that they Had both Ewan McGregor and James Arnold Taylor (the voice of Obi-wan in several projects) record the line "Rey, these are your first steps", which were overlapped with eachother.




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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2016, 06:31:03 PM »
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So, does it bug anyone else that the First Order is so shriekingly, mustache twirlingly evil?

The Empire was kind of Order Personified, existing to bring everything to order and regulation, but you never really see them be EVIL with the exception of Tarkin, Vader, and the Emperor. Captain/Admiral Piett, General Maxmillian Veers, Captain Jerojod, Captain Needa, etc.; all the soldiers we see are just guys who engage in "9 to 5 villainy" in that they are just soldiers doing their jobs and trying to make the galaxy a peaceful place in their own ways. They do their jobs, and at the end of their tours of duty they go home to whatever home life awaits them. Well, unless those Rebel Scum blow them up before they get there.

And then the First Order has General Hux, who couldn't be a more smug leather and satin clad uber Nazi if he tried. He manages to make Grand Moff Tarkin, probably one of the most sadistic and evil characters in the whole film saga, look like a moderate guy with good intentions. Also, I have to question Hux on his choice of attire: leather and satin will make people ask questions.

As opposed to the Empire, the First Order can easily be understood to be a sneering, gestapo-patrolled oppressive extremist state, like if the Nazis became infected by Islamic State ideology and methods. The movie does a good job of communicating that the First Order isn't just an Imperial Remnant -- it's a remnant that has been made more extreme by the collapse of the Empire, as if they decided that the Empire fell because it was too nice to people. And Hux is their bloody poster boy.

But they've gone so extreme as to be almost comical from a narrative perspective. It's like they are AWARE of their evilness and take pride in it, and meet in isolated locations in the dead of night to have clandestine seminars on how they can be MORE EVIL. They're like Power Rangers Villains bragging about how they're more evil than their comrades, or Robbie Rotten in Lazy Town singing and dancing about how it's "Good to be Bad".
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2016, 11:42:02 PM »
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So, does it bug anyone else that the First Order is so shriekingly, mustache twirlingly evil?

Not really. If anything it is a reflection of the times we're in. The original Star Wars came out in 1977; during the cold war era, and the movie reflected the time in which it was made. The Deathstar itself--a cold war deterrent. Powerfull enough to destroy an entire planet but not used outright unless absolutely necessary. Now we have the First Order that reflects the age of our times--the age of terrorism and religious extremists. And there weapon? A device that destroys no-matter what it does. It suck up an entire sun, thus killing the solar system in which it rests. Then it fires out that very power onto other systems impacting multiple worlds in one fell swoop.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2016, 02:29:01 AM »
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So I finally got around to watching the movie, and...
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It is precisely because it never cared, that people do care.  It's something which it's lacking, because that which it has, it has lackluster of.
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« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2016, 04:29:33 AM »
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His emo bearing and temper tantrums are perfectly in line with the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he'll always be
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no matter how hard he tries. He acts immature, brash, and makes bad calls more fitting of an inexperienced field commander because he is exactly all those things.

However, his nose makes me wish he'd just keep the mask on.
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« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2016, 04:50:07 AM »
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2016, 01:24:17 AM »
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I think that's the entire point actually. He's still threatening regardless of anything else.
Hell, it even makes him more dangerous than if he wasn't like that emotionally.

Plus, I think it plays off the dynamic of the Empire being more about the rule of order and , ironically, the First Order being much more radical and chaotic.

Also, YAY!
Going to go into the theater in less than 8 hours for my second big screen viewing.
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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2016, 10:58:18 AM »
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I think that was actually brilliantly done as if J.J.  was acknowledging the prequels in the new trilogy. I know some minor references were made in the movie.

It was very Anakin-ish.

The only thing that bugs me as if epic as the ending of The Force Unleashed was.

Mark better get himself into fighting shape for the next movie.

There better be some kind of epic Luke fighting going on!

Say what you will about the prequels but one thing that they absolutely nailed was the fight chirography in the LightSaber department. In every movie none the less.

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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2016, 05:12:45 PM »
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might explain explain why she has such an innate grasp of mechanics and piloting?

At first, I scoffed. Then I was all "Hmmmmmmmm...."

And she DOES have VERY Padme bone structure, further suggesting a connection with Anakin and/or Amidala.
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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2016, 06:05:24 PM »
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Have you seen that fan theory that
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might explain explain why she has such an innate grasp of mechanics and piloting?

At first, I scoffed. Then I was all "Hmmmmmmmm...."

And she DOES have VERY Padme bone structure, further suggesting a connection with Anakin and/or Amidala.

How would that even work? I think that's reaching considering who her dad is. The same could be said of her dad obviously.

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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2016, 07:45:41 PM »
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How would that even work? I think that's reaching considering who her dad is. The same could be said of her dad obviously.

Except we have no evidence about who her dad is (not even a mild recollection), so you can't even say that.

Literally, all we know is that he was a guy on a ship shaped mildly like a cockroach and he hasn't ever returned from said roach voyage. That is the extent of our available data.

Here's a good (spoiler laden) summary of the theory.
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