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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2016, 10:44:56 PM »
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Ah, but we also have the fact that she has a very strong connection to a very particular weapon. That isn't there trivially.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2016, 11:12:40 PM »
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The whole lightsaber scene with the flashback snippets is a bit of a thought provoker on that front.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2016, 12:44:36 AM »
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Why would she have such a reaction to the weapon when Luke didn't though?
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2016, 11:24:34 AM »
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Why would she have such a reaction to the weapon when Luke didn't though?

And that's the million dollar question, isn't it. J.J. Abrams doesn't really think about things, he just throws them together believing it'll be good and nobody will question his train of thought. This happened with Lost and he f@#ked it up--his own creation. It happened with Into Darkness. Same conclusion. And now it's happening again with Star Wars. We're asking questions about specific elements that leave us scratching our heads, and he believes that nobody will question him. He doesn't learn from his past errors and he will continue to make these errors till something gives. Many believe he's the next coming of Steven Spielberg and J.J. has not denied that in any way. But when it comes time for him to be presented with his own Schindler's list aka his own brand new, epic creation, he will fail.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2016, 02:47:21 PM »
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JJ Abrams is more the second coming of Aaron Sorkin than Spielberg. Both are fantastic when it comes to engaging dialog and attachment-worth characters, but flop when the plot calls for more than that. Abrams is a gifted camera man, and a good editor, but he ruins every project in which he is the major creative force.

Pretty much everything amazing about Force Awakens can be reliably credited to someone other than Abrams, and often instead to the writing team headed by Lawrence Kasdan.

Abrams can be awesome and amazing, but only when others are controlling things tightly enough that he can't call the shots. In short, he's awesome when he's the executor of someone else's work, but only when.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2016, 11:43:34 PM »
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Pretty much.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2016, 10:24:35 PM »
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Did you guys actually like it so much?
Seriously? I mean, it was fun to watch. Finn and Ray are cool characters. But the plot? Total ripoff of a "A new hope".
Also, the villians SUCKED. Kylo Ren looks like a pussy who was bullied in highschool so he joined the dark side. Seriously? Is that your idea of a scary bad guy? He's a wuss!

It's all like... Star Wars fanfiction. Nice fanfiction,.but fanfiction nevertheless.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2016, 10:38:16 PM »
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Did you guys actually like it so much?

I'm not one of those pathetic, obsessive fanboys if that's what you mean. The movie is passable--more-so then the prequel trilogy. I will watch episode VII more then the prequels.

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But the plot? Total ripoff of a "A new hope".

There was a lot of that in the film I noticed.

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Also, the villians SUCKED. Kylo Ren looks like a pussy who was bullied in highschool so he joined the dark side. Seriously? Is that your idea of a scary bad guy? He's a wuss!

No argument here. His character totally flopped the moment he took off the mask. And that was about half-way through the film. However he came on strong in the beginning when his unit attacked the Jakku settlement. That was the only time he showed any sort of badassery. And then it went downhill from that point onward.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2016, 08:37:31 AM »
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I'm not one of those pathetic, obsessive fanboys if that's what you mean. The movie is passable--more-so then the prequel trilogy. I will watch episode VII more then the prequels.

There was a lot of that in the film I noticed.

No argument here. His character totally flopped the moment he took off the mask. And that was about half-way through the film. However he came on strong in the beginning when his unit attacked the Jakku settlement. That was the only time he showed any sort of badassery. And then it went downhill from that point onward.

Which is narratively the entire point behind his character. He's idolizing this figure he's put on a pedestal and trying desperately to be like cool Darth Vader, but he has no experience and conflicted feelings that Vader didn't have and as a result he winds up being emotionally incompetent and a bit of a failure at being Sithy.

Personality-wise, he's literally the star wars version of a Hot Topic Emo. He thinks the Dark Side is cool and is trying to be Edgy Grimdark McSithLord like every high school Emo who ever demanded their friends start calling them "Raven Starmoon Dracul".

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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2016, 10:31:11 AM »
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2016, 10:54:50 AM »
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Use spoiler tags, man  :-[

The best spoiler tag is seeing the damn movie already.  ;)
And also probably avoiding any and all discussion of the film until the film is seen.

Rule number 1 of internet discussion of a new thing: ASSUME SPOILERS.

It's not fun, but it'll save your hide.

Edit: I did spoiler tag the post in hindsight, but my generosity ends there -- INTERNET SURFERS BEWARE.

If you're at all sensitive about spoilers in the 3 or so months after a new hotly discussed thing is released, do try to avoid any discussion not clearly marked as "spoiler free", because if it doesn't say that on the tin, then there's probably spoily sardines in there. After 3 months, spoilers will become essentially unavoidable and the last remaining option is to pretty much avoid the web altogether. In the case of Star Wars, this seems to be accelerating even faster than usual.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2016, 11:40:59 AM »
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Dude, I'll try being clear while not being an asswipe: When visiting the CASTLEVANIA Dungeon, I do not expect a Star Wars spoiler being commented on so openly and detailed-ly.

The VERY FIRST THING I read on your post was:

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That's an incredibly detailed spoiler, and while you expect people to avoid all discussion, the common courtesy of using spoiler tags is also expected from you. Most people here are using spoiler tags. While you can also tell me to simply not click the Star Wars thread because "there sure are spoilers in there", I have no such option when scrolling through the recent posts section.

Telling me to "go watch the movie" also solves nothing - what if I can't?

Anyway, people, saltiness over. Proceed with the discussion.
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2016, 10:21:58 AM »
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The video won't load for me.

But if it's Adam driver on snl then hell yeah.

Dude was way funnier than I expected!
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Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2016, 11:02:55 AM »
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The video won't load for me.

But if it's Adam driver on snl then hell yeah.

Dude was way funnier than I expected!

Yeah dude, I don't know what is up with youtube videos for me on the dungeon now. They don't load for me either.  That's why I have keep the original link in now as well.

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