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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2017, 01:31:49 PM »
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John Morris. His name is one toothpick move away from being mine, and he is related to Quincy Morris from Bram Stoker's Dracula.

He can swing from any ceiling with the vampire killer. :D Kind of a rough fellow, who has perhaps not lived as a man should ^_^
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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2017, 10:04:03 PM »
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Shaft. The metal voice in SotN, his standing pose, how he managed to survive RoB events as ghost/spirit form and all. So badass.
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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2017, 11:11:21 PM »
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I have too many favorites. But I'll speak of one: Death.

Death is written in such a way that makes his villany so charismatic. I love how matter-of-factly he is and how he doesn't leave room for dubiousness. And of course, the fact he's willing to go to very far lengths to see Dracula revived. If Death were a real person, he'd be Castlevania's #1 fanboy.

It's a shame we don't get to see more of Dracula's interaction with Death. I wonder what their conversations are like.

True. Death is an amazing character.
Drac and Death's interaction would be good fanfiction fodder.

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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2017, 11:31:09 PM »
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True. Death is an amazing character.
Drac and Death's interaction would be good fanfiction fodder.

Death got all points off when he stripped off Alucard's stuff. Graham is by far the best non-Dracula CV villain.

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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2017, 11:39:32 PM »
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Death got all points off when he stripped off Alucard's stuff. Graham is by far the best non-Dracula CV villain.

Nah, I always just treat that scene as "non-explanatory needed gameplay" stuff that has nothing to do with Death as a character.

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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2017, 11:49:29 PM »
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Nah, I always just treat that scene as "non-explanatory needed gameplay" stuff that has nothing to do with Death as a character.

But this felt like teasing me with stripping away the game changer. It would be better if Alucard didn't have it to start with like it was left in the castle when Alucard rebelled against his father. Then him regaining the items would be much fluent story.

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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2017, 11:56:50 PM »
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Nah, I always just treat that scene as "non-explanatory needed gameplay" stuff that has nothing to do with Death as a character.

Agreed, it was to give the player a taste of how the game was later on (old or new to CV), because if Alucard had fists and nothing else people would've gone "What the hell is this game?".

Too bad Death got owned and didn't strip the Crissaegrim or Heaven's sword off of Alucard. :P
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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2017, 03:26:20 AM »
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Agreed, it was to give the player a taste of how the game was later on (old or new to CV), because if Alucard had fists and nothing else people would've gone "What the hell is this game?".

I'd say they should have given some kind of shortsword to start with. Jonathan had now-worthless VK to start with, Juste and Nathan has same weapon all along and Soma had the knife when he started. It would be like Soma had Clamih Solais or some kind of 'Katana gifted by Mina' to start with and now he has bare hand. That's just teasing in my opinion. Something like finishing Ghost and Goblins first run and now you have to do that all over again.

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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2017, 04:23:47 AM »
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I'd say they should have given some kind of shortsword to start with. Jonathan had now-worthless VK to start with, Juste and Nathan has same weapon all along and Soma had the knife when he started. It would be like Soma had Clamih Solais or some kind of 'Katana gifted by Mina' to start with and now he has bare hand. That's just teasing in my opinion. Something like finishing Ghost and Goblins first run and now you have to do that all over again.

Sotn was the first of its kind, and no fans (new or old alike) new what it was going to play like. If they introduced a game that seemed as if it played like crap, then nobody would want to play it.

Also, those are terrible comparisons, Juste and Nathan only had one primary attack/ weapon throughout their entire playthrough. Alucard sword =/= Claimh by a long shot. Jonathan had a whole array of weapons like Alucard, in POR the dormant VK is still useful for the first hour or so, particularly on the hardest setting where staying away from foes is best.

Sotn also arguably has more input based attacks than the other Igavanias, the start of the game does allow the player to discover this.

There's something else to the whole death sequence. You have to go through both castles to find the Alucard items (the first castle won't give you all of those) as well as battling Death. Did no one else on their first playthrough - without the holy goggles - think it was weird that Alucard never faced Death? I did.
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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2017, 05:17:08 AM »
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Sotn was the first of its kind, and no fans (new or old alike) new what it was going to play like. If they introduced a game that seemed as if it played like crap, then nobody would want to play it.

Also, those are terrible comparisons, Juste and Nathan only had one primary attack/ weapon throughout their entire playthrough. Alucard sword =/= Claimh by a long shot. Jonathan had a whole array of weapons like Alucard, in POR the dormant VK is still useful for the first hour or so, particularly on the hardest setting where staying away from foes is best.

Sotn also arguably has more input based attacks than the other Igavanias, the start of the game does allow the player to discover this.

There's something else to the whole death sequence. You have to go through both castles to find the Alucard items (the first castle won't give you all of those) as well as battling Death. Did no one else on their first playthrough - without the holy goggles - think it was weird that Alucard never faced Death? I did.

Sure thing. Sure thing. Then, PoR was the first game to have VK actually lose power systematically. It would make a better sense for Alucard Sword to "lose power", which doesn't even make sense in the first place then get stripped. Let's get Juste/Nathan out of the way and say about Soma. Clamih Solais IS Soma's unofficial signature weapon (Much like Crissaegrim), but for comparison, let's say that Soma has all sorts of powerful goods given from Mina, enchanted with holy powers (Forget tactical souls for second). They both are really powerful and it's give from someone who they really care about. After beating the Creaking Skull, Death himself comes and takes everything away. Now you have NOTHING and you have to rely on a mere sword and no armour. That's just plain outrageous. Good thing AoS doesn't do that, otherwise HoD would be a better Metroidvania for me (You can't strip away VK from a Belmont)

Much of weapon-changable Metroidvania is heavily input-based game. Try going through Castle Corridor until opening Hammer's shop in AoS with bare fist.

Even if Death didn't strip away Alucard's stuff, recurring fan will know about Death and he will certainly appear somewhere and even the manual says about Death himself.

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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2017, 01:51:01 PM »
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Sure thing. Sure thing. Then, PoR was the first game to have VK actually lose power systematically. It would make a better sense for Alucard Sword to "lose power", which doesn't even make sense in the first place then get stripped. Let's get Juste/Nathan out of the way and say about Soma. Clamih Solais IS Soma's unofficial signature weapon (Much like Crissaegrim), but for comparison, let's say that Soma has all sorts of powerful goods given from Mina, enchanted with holy powers (Forget tactical souls for second). They both are really powerful and it's give from someone who they really care about. After beating the Creaking Skull, Death himself comes and takes everything away. Now you have NOTHING and you have to rely on a mere sword and no armour. That's just plain outrageous. Good thing AoS doesn't do that, otherwise HoD would be a better Metroidvania for me (You can't strip away VK from a Belmont)

Much of weapon-changable Metroidvania is heavily input-based game. Try going through Castle Corridor until opening Hammer's shop in AoS with bare fist.

Even if Death didn't strip away Alucard's stuff, recurring fan will know about Death and he will certainly appear somewhere and even the manual says about Death himself.

I downvoted your post because it made no f'ing sense.
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Re: Your Favourine Non-Belmont Character?
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2017, 01:57:56 PM »
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Try going through Castle Corridor until opening Hammer's shop in AoS with bare fist.

Used to do that all the time. I love naked runs of the MV titles. Really changes how you think about gameplay and combat.

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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2017, 02:37:16 PM »
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For protagonists: Hector.

Never mind that Curse of Darkness, Harmony of Dissonance and Aria of Sorrow (via the Castlevania Double Pack) were simultaneously my first ever Castlevanias. Hector actually gets a really good character arc (for an Iga game at any rate) about not letting selfish desires ruin you, letting go of past hurts, and moving on with your life. He's voiced by the superb Crispin Freeman during Freeman's golden period of voice acting, and Hector has a really cool general look. As the straight man to Isaac's crazy man, Hector is a great foil against his villain, and he got to have probably the greatest dialog interactions with Death in the series. Also his meeting with Saint Germaine is as silly and chuckle-worthy today as it was in 2005.

The only other Castlevania protags I hold with the same fondness are Soma and Shanoa, for the same Character Arc reasons. None of them are static protagonists. They all change, evolve, and grow over the course of their journeys, and emerge much different and improved people.

For villains? Walter. THAT. SEXY. ASS. VOICE.

Also he's probably the ultimate portrayal of a classic Fairy Tale villain in the series. But mostly that deep smexy baritone.
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For villains? Walter. THAT. SEXY. ASS. VOICE.

Also he's probably the ultimate portrayal of a classic Fairy Tale villain in the series. But mostly that deep smexy baritone.

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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2017, 03:37:41 PM »
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Gotta give it to Nathan, unique combat abilities and the fact that he wasn't a part of some prestigious bloodline was enough for me. Of course, Circle of the moon is my favorite, so I'm clearly biased.
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