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what is this chain?
« on: May 16, 2018, 09:23:14 AM »
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Hi there

we all know this pic


But  i've noticed that the whip has a chain warped around it.

I figured It was like they were saying.
"He is the last Belmont so lets give him both leather and chain"


 
But I just wanted to ask if anyone knows why? Was there anyhting ever said about.
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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2018, 09:54:51 AM »
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I think I remember seeing this before and scratching my head. To me it doesn't make any sense as to why it is both leather and chain. Would the weapon even work properly with a chain wrapped around the entirety of the leather? personally I'd think not very well. Although it might just be drawn like that for symbolic purposes. If possible you could always try and ask Ayami Kojima what she was thinking when she decided to draw it that way. As the artist she would know without a doubt.
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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2018, 10:15:20 AM »
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If possible you could always try and ask Ayami Kojima what she was thinking when she decided to draw it that way. As the artist she would know without a doubt.

That's a solid Idea, I wonder if she's on Facebook?  but what ever its a Great idea thanks.


I think I remember seeing this before and scratching my head. To me it doesn't make any sense as to why it is both leather and chain. Would the weapon even work properly with a chain wrapped around the entirety of the leather? personally I'd think not very well. Although it might just be drawn like that for symbolic purposes.

But i think it is just for symbolic purposes like you said.
 but the whole chain on the whip thing is just one of those idea that works better on paper, than in real life.
 
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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2018, 01:35:17 AM »
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Definitely drawn for symbolic purpose, keep in mind that it was stated in the Sorrow games that the whip's power was diminished or "sealed" after the 1999 Battle, that chain around it is symbolic to its nerfed state within the games.


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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2018, 05:02:44 AM »
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It's definitely symbolic, perhaps of the VK's rage re-awakening (like Julius does)... Or perhaps it's the other way, perhaps it symbolises the VK's true powers being dormant, just as Julius' memories were between 1999 - 2035.
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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2018, 10:53:27 PM »
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Maybe she was trying to give the fans the best of both worlds? Classicvania games have the whip upgrading into a morning star (or flail) and taking on the appearance of such. The 3D (LoS doesn't) games keep the whip as a whip and not the chain. Anywho, maybe she was meeting in the middle with the two styles of the Vampire Killer.

I'm sure she's not but who knows

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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2018, 01:58:25 AM »
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Whoever has the Santa Lilio Sangre artbook of Kojima, can you please look into the liner notes beneath/beside the photo?
Maybe there is an explanation there.

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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2018, 03:03:23 AM »
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clearly it's an emasculation metaphor

my high school english teacher said so and she was a pro at overanalyzing hidden meanings that aren't actually there


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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2018, 04:20:58 AM »
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emasculation

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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2018, 01:54:01 PM »
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Whoever has the Santa Lilio Sangre artbook of Kojima, can you please look into the liner notes beneath/beside the photo?
Maybe there is an explanation there.

There is a text beneath the picture. But says nothing of value to understanding the picture itself. It's written:

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...Which is the source of the artwork. There's nothing else.
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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2018, 02:16:14 PM »
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i think it's just a reference to the whip being leather in art and a chain in-game

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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2018, 06:09:50 PM »
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It was also chain in art as well. Rondo to be specific.
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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2018, 12:25:24 AM »
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@plottwist: Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: what is this chain?
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2018, 12:52:29 PM »
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I think its  symbolic like we all said, but  this has been VERY helpful.

Thanks very much all.
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