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Title: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Kingshango on May 25, 2011, 07:33:07 PM
Looks very much like Castlevania, coming to XBLA and PSN this summer. :)


BloodRayne: Betrayal - Debut Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNUxbVtni4g#ws)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on May 25, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
Never played any of the older Bloodraynes games. This one looks pretty sweet though! This is going to be a great summer for XBLA.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Munchy on May 25, 2011, 08:46:32 PM
Looks great. Why isn't Konami hooking up with these guys for an XBLA Castlevania? Contra 4 was one of the few good things to come out of the outsourcing bullshit, and of course they ignore them completely for no reason.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Oralox on May 25, 2011, 10:34:46 PM
Woah! is this a reboot or somethin? It looks badass!
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 25, 2011, 11:40:10 PM
Looks like a side story or something. Hope it's good, because then I could have something to fill the void of the 2D CVs we aren't getting. Also, if it's good, it might just continue on as it's own little series. Pretty interesting, considering the other Bloodrayne games are totally different than this.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on May 26, 2011, 03:15:37 AM
Never liked the Bloodrayne series, but from the looks of this THIS is a must have!!

The artwork looks top notch. Ditto on wishing Konami would make an oldschool 2D Cv just like this.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 26, 2011, 06:16:57 AM
W-wow!
This game already gets major points for the following:
-hand-drawn high-resolution comicbook-style artwork
-fluid animations (almost like Guilty Gear)
-zoom in and zoom out graphics, shadow effects (I saw those on Donkey Kong Country Returns in the sunset stage)
-interesting melee combat and enemies
-nice dark backgrounds (yet detailed, like the white stained-glass windows)
-blood & metal spark effects
-PLATFORMING (did you see the clocktower-esque gears section and the spiked corridors you have to air dash through?)
-Nice savepoint action (towards the end, if that is a savepoint)

Too bad I don't have an X360...
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Dominus on May 26, 2011, 09:21:01 AM
I love the different reactions between forums
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=179928&page=13 (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=179928&page=13)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 26, 2011, 09:46:02 AM
I agree with Larson n Natla. :P

Well, I suppose it's because I'm starting to see the potential of High-Resolution gaming with classic styles.  I will always love pixel artwork, but there's really something classy with the visuals of today's games.  I think it started with games like Odin Sphere, which stylized spritework beyond just little tiles, and added effects to the art.  Here are some more examples:

-Odin Sphere (already mentioned)
-Muramasa: The Demon Blade (done by the same Odin Sphere people, and it's visually delicious)
-A Boy And His Blob (looks almost like a living comic book, but it's a puzzle-platformer)
-Pokemon Black&White (why? The Pokemon are still using sprites, but now use them in marionette-style pieces that are carefully arranged, rotated, scaled, and twisted accordingly)

If anyone has other examples, feel free to share.  I think the 2D Fighting games like Guilty Gear and such do this as well since they use bigbigBIG sprites.

I want a new Castlevania done in this style (even though I'm fond of LoS as well as the 2D spritwork stuff), just because it's possible and I think would look awesome.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: thernz on May 26, 2011, 10:50:15 AM
This looks pretty heh. Heh.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on May 26, 2011, 02:40:27 PM
I'll second the recommendation for ODIN SPHERE. Absolutely gorgeous game!!

I heard a rumor several months ago that Muramasa: The Demon Blade will be coming to XBLA and PSN. Let's hope so :o
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: OdenAndEvil on May 26, 2011, 03:16:54 PM
"This is going to get bloody"
Foooor suuuuure. =) this game looks so much fun, thx for that trailer. ^^
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Sindra on May 26, 2011, 06:49:25 PM
Seems I need to check this forum more often before posting this in CV discussion, but it was topical.


In terms of downloadable games, this is what Konami should have been aiming for when they decided Castlevania needed in on that market. No cut & paste cheap cop-outs. Some honest-to-god effort. And damn does this look pretty, though I have never really cared for Bloodreign before....but I'll play this in a heartbeat.

You hear me, Konami? Kindly get your shit together. THIS is the kind of stuff we want for Castlevania.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Inccubus on May 26, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
looks neat. never was much of a fan of bloodrayne, but this actually looks interesting.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on May 26, 2011, 07:56:35 PM
Wow, this looks very cool. And I thought Bloodrayne was dead :o
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 26, 2011, 08:47:55 PM
Wow, this looks very cool. And I thought Bloodrayne was dead :o
(http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/see-what-you-did-there.jpg)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on May 26, 2011, 10:49:08 PM
XD

I actually realized what I did only after I posted and looked it over again XD XD
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: C Belmont on May 26, 2011, 11:37:05 PM
Quote
If anyone has other examples, feel free to share.

Batman: The Brave & the bold - the videogame (Wii)
Warioland: Shake it!
Dust: an elysian tale
Toki Arcade Remix
Rayman Origins

the last three haven't been finished yet but they sure look interesting.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: JR on May 26, 2011, 11:50:47 PM
Never liked the Bloodrayne series, but from the looks of this THIS is a must have!!


My thoughts exactly. Day one purchase for me. I thought "why??" when I first heard news of this, but actually seeing it, it's much, much different than I imagined.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: OdenAndEvil on May 27, 2011, 01:29:05 AM
There is a remake coming of Toki?
OMG, i loved that game on the Amiga. Hope it will be any good.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 27, 2011, 03:11:54 AM
Toki was one of my most favorite games for Amiga, Genesis(Mega Drive) and Arcade version!!! I can't wait to see a video from the remake!!! ;D
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Munchy on May 27, 2011, 02:54:19 PM

You hear me, Konami? Kindly get your shit together. THIS is the kind of stuff we want for Castlevania.

Konami: No. *snorts five lines of coke, prepares release of Castlevania: Card Battle for iphone*
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Kale on May 27, 2011, 07:03:44 PM
I'll second the recommendation for ODIN SPHERE. Absolutely gorgeous game!!

I heard a rumor several months ago that Muramasa: The Demon Blade will be coming to XBLA and PSN. Let's hope so :o

OMG, you serious!? I didn't like teh sword mechanics in the game, but... man that's tempting.

As for br, the older games sucked... controls were HORRID. This looks pretty cool though. Not super awesome, but not half bad.... not at all.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Sumac on May 31, 2011, 02:06:58 PM
I couldn't say what the heck is going on the screen - it's quite a mess, but I hope as soon as there will be more gameplay videos, I could finally grasp an idea of what is going on in the game. As for graphics - it looks awesome and somehow it reminds me about Castlevania (must be setting).
(click to show/hide)

I've been waiting for BR3 (closer to the awesome first game in style, because second was crap), but I am not dissapointed. Especially since it's WayForward. They Contra 4 was brilliant, so I believe they will not dissapoint with this game.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: thernz on May 31, 2011, 02:15:53 PM
I think the mess problem is actually linked to how the graphics have a lot of priority and readability issues, but the gameplay looks intriguing enough barring that. The background designs are pretty boring and not integrated well but the level designs I remember seeing hold promise.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on June 02, 2011, 06:09:34 PM
Here's a small dev diary vid. If does a bit more to detail some of the gameplay elements. You can also spot a taste of some platforming (which will almost certainly be more heavily incorporated)


BloodRayne: Betrayal dev diary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGOQTa1Sk6Y#)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Renonsgoods on June 02, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Too bad we can't get an HD 2D Vania with this level of technical prowess.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on June 02, 2011, 08:55:13 PM
Seriously, Konami needs to hire these guys ASAP to produce the next 2D Cv.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Munchy on June 03, 2011, 06:56:46 PM
Seriously, Konami needs to hire these guys ASAP to produce the next 2D Cv.

I imagine the low sales of Contra 4 made them scared of WayForward or something. But these guys clearly put their hearts into what they do, and hopefully this game will be some kind of success and turn Konami's heads again. (That is, as much as one can turn his head when it is lodged firmly in his ass.)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: beingthehero on June 03, 2011, 07:58:09 PM
I remember playing the original BloodRayne at a friend's house. It was wholly mediocre action game.

But this, this looks pretty great! I like the Belmont-like dude who gets kicked about 5 seconds in. I guess this is also WayForward's jaunty wink at the series, and looks like one of the better Could-be-vanias.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on June 05, 2011, 12:34:15 AM
Here's a small dev diary vid. If does a bit more to detail some of the gameplay elements. You can also spot a taste of some platforming (which will almost certainly be more heavily incorporated)


BloodRayne: Betrayal dev diary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGOQTa1Sk6Y#)

Dare...to resist drugs and violence? Even though it's not really about the thread, and while the message is admirable, does anyone besides me think it's a kind of a weird shirt for a game developer to wear while talking about his game? Why not a Bloodrayne t-shirt? :D;;;
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gecko on June 05, 2011, 07:32:55 AM
I love the different reactions between forums
http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=179928&page=13 (http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=179928&page=13)

lol
One of them said it "looks like a poor man's Castlevania."  :rollseyes:

If only...
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on June 05, 2011, 01:01:29 PM
lol
One of them said it "looks like a poor man's Castlevania."  :rollseyes:

If only...

Looks more like a rich man Cv to me. Like Bill Gates kinda rich compared to a welfare mom with 7 kids.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 06, 2011, 07:05:38 PM
LOL yeah.

It's like you compare:
"Let's make highly-stylized hand-drawn 2D animations (on par with what seems to be Guilty Gear and/or Blazblue)with plenty of effects, in large, sprawling 2D HD environment in an fast-paced action game!"  (Bloodrayne Betrayal)
VS
"Let's take 15+ year old sprites (at the most) and entirely recycled sprites from the last few or so games, and put backgrounds from previous games and put 'em in a blender and see what comes out" (Harmony of Despair)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Sindra on June 09, 2011, 10:12:14 PM
http://www.originalsoundversion.com/e3-2011-wayforwards-bloodrayne-betrayal-scored-by-jake-kaufman/ (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/e3-2011-wayforwards-bloodrayne-betrayal-scored-by-jake-kaufman/)

Dudes, fucking Jake Kaufman AKA. VIRT does the music.

This game just skyrocketed to GOLD on my list.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Munchy on June 10, 2011, 04:35:46 AM
Dudes, fucking Jake Kaufman AKA. VIRT does the music.

Well, it looks like this game...

*takes off first pair of sunglasses*

Will be a Virtuous effort.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

If Konami doesn't watch this game and hire the shit out of WayForward for an HD Castlevania, they are dead to me. Kaufman and WayForward in general have the Konami style down to a goddamn T.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: bucky on June 10, 2011, 09:13:25 AM
http://www.originalsoundversion.com/e3-2011-wayforwards-bloodrayne-betrayal-scored-by-jake-kaufman/ (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/e3-2011-wayforwards-bloodrayne-betrayal-scored-by-jake-kaufman/)

Dudes, fucking Jake Kaufman AKA. VIRT does the music.

This game just skyrocketed to GOLD on my list.
Absolutely. Day one purchase. Virt rules. Wayforward rules. :D
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on June 10, 2011, 02:30:47 PM
I predict that Konami will unfortunately not be making an HD 2D Cv any time soon, as they don't want to steal any thunder from LoS as a series.

That is unless they do a side story either placed in between LoS and it's sequel, or a prequel that details how Zobek managed to get Gabriel to wear the devilmask in he first place.

If Konami does decide to do something, WayForward absolutely MUST be put in charge of it. I thank Iga for his devotion and years of service to the series, but he's shown that as far as Cv is concerned he's hit a creative wall (some would argue that this happened long ago).  It's time to make a way forward for someone new to make a 2D Castlevania, based on the LoS universe.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 10, 2011, 02:41:51 PM
It's time to make a way forward for someone new to make a 2D Castlevania, based on the LoS universe.

(http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/see-what-you-did-there.jpg)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on June 10, 2011, 03:26:09 PM
Please forgive my ignorance, but who's Jake Kaufman? I am king nub T_T
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: bucky on June 10, 2011, 04:06:37 PM
Please forgive my ignorance, but who's Jake Kaufman? I am king nub T_T
He's a video game composer. He's well liked in the community because he's... well, 'one of us'. A fan of VGM, chiptunes, retro games, the whole nine yards. He's known for remixes/ covers/ original music, etc. Very down to earth and badass musician. Probably the most famous games he's scored are Contra 4 and Shantae (both are also great games made by Wayforward). Basically, there is every indication this game will be cool and have a wicked soundtrack. :D

(ok, fine, I'll put my penis back in my pants).
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on June 10, 2011, 05:25:27 PM
*purrs at Bucky* Thanks :D
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Harrycombs on June 11, 2011, 08:12:54 AM
I can't believe I didn't notice this game until I saw a Kotaku article about it today. This looks fantastic. Its everything a modern CV game should be.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on June 20, 2011, 04:51:03 PM
it looks promising and i hope it does well. But more than anything this is just twisting the knife in the castlevania-less year thus far.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Maedhros on July 17, 2011, 10:30:44 PM
BloodRayne: Betrayal - Trailer 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfbVZjxczl8#ws)

If Konami made a new 2D Castlevania, this game gives a hint where the combat could be going. If they combined combos + OoE system, I think it could turn to be amazing.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on July 18, 2011, 02:34:35 AM
That was a short trailer ~_~ Better than nothing, though, thanks! :D
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gecko on July 18, 2011, 06:46:15 PM
BloodRayne: Betrayal - Trailer 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfbVZjxczl8#ws)

If Konami made a new 2D Castlevania, this game gives a hint where the combat could be going. If they combined combos + OoE system, I think it could turn to be amazing.

Badass. I'll probably end up getting this whenever it comes out. Animations of the enemies really does remind me of A Boy and His Blob on the Wii.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: shelverton. on September 02, 2011, 06:57:52 PM

IGN says 9.0 and talks a lot about Castlevania in this review. They even go as far as saying this:

"One word came to mind pretty much every second I played it -- "Castlevania" -- because BloodRayne: Betrayal reeks of an old-school entry in the series. In fact, with developer WayForward's relationship with Konami already established with its Contra offering, something deep within me says that BloodRayne: Betrayal was most certainly meant to be a Castlevania game, one that never got approved."

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/119/1192226p1.html (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/119/1192226p1.html)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Maedhros on September 02, 2011, 07:05:33 PM
Fuck you Konami, Fuck you for giving Silent Mothefucking Hill for them instead of Castlevania. Goddamit!
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: shelverton. on September 02, 2011, 07:17:31 PM
I somehow feel that Bloodrayne Betrayal is proof that WayForward won't ever make a Castlevania game. They poured their 2D vampire heart into this one instead. Maybe because Konami just wouldn't let them have a go at the real stuff.

But who knows? They've established a relation with Konami, so it could happen someday. But I kinda don't think so anymore, not after seeing Bloodrayne. Unless Bloodrayne is a "hey konami! Look at our Castlevaniaesque game! Do you want one too?" kind of thing.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on September 02, 2011, 07:34:33 PM
Aw goddammnit!!!!
I'm not mad 'cuz it looks like an awesome game.  I'm mad 'cuz this looks like what most of the fanbase seems to be craving for. :(
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: uzo on September 02, 2011, 07:53:39 PM
Aw goddammnit!!!!
I'm not mad 'cuz it looks like an awesome game.  I'm mad 'cuz this looks like what most of the fanbase seems to be craving for. :(

I have to agree wholeheartedly here. They delivered what we wanted for years, with an unrelated franchise. Why the HELL didn't they give them the Castlevania license?! AUGH!! So pissed right now!!

I'm going to love this game, and yet probably hate every minute of it knowing this could have been one of the greatest Castlevania games ever.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: shelverton. on September 02, 2011, 08:34:11 PM

It's hilarious that - of all embarrasing, semi-dead, good-for-nothing franchises - it's effin BLOODRAYNE (!!!  :o !!!) that rises from its grave and delivers a game that is more Castlevania than Konamis' own Lords of Shadow. It's just.... I can't even... I mean; LULZ!

Except I'm angry too. But I'll play the heck out of this one fo'sho.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Ahasverus on September 02, 2011, 10:59:10 PM
lol IGN praises BR for being a Castlevania copycat, and htey said LoS was bad because it had "some similarities" with God of War..
Oh, the irony.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: thernz on September 03, 2011, 01:07:34 AM
I'm not really sure at all on how Bloodrayne Betrayal resembles an older Castlevania considering it's a brawler, but it looks nice, I guess.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Munchy on September 03, 2011, 05:06:07 AM
lol IGN praises BR for being a Castlevania copycat, and htey said LoS was bad because it had "some similarities" with God of War..
Oh, the irony.

With the QTEs, kinda, but the whip combat itself kinda reminds me of a bizarre hybrid of... Ninja Gaiden and Rygar? LoS and GoW look like they do different things with combat.

I'm not really sure at all on how Bloodrayne Betrayal resembles an older Castlevania considering it's a brawler, but it looks nice, I guess.

For me, the environmental hazards. And the music. It looks a little more comic-book-y, though. The combat kinda reminds me of Astroy Boy on the GBA, which fucking rocks.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on September 03, 2011, 09:15:10 AM
Maybe this bloodrayne game is just practice to them, and if they do well Konami will give them a real Castlevania game to do :D
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Ialdabaoth on September 03, 2011, 09:58:14 AM
lol IGN praises BR for being a Castlevania copycat, and htey said LoS was bad because it had "some similarities" with God of War..
Oh, the irony.

You know the age old saying... You can't spell "Ignorance" without IGN.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Neobelmont on September 04, 2011, 12:19:15 PM
You know the age old saying... You can't spell "Ignorance" without IGN.

Did you really just go there man   :rollseyes:  , meanwhile on the other side of the field it seems all good in the hood, but it seems that it might get lowballed just because it is too hard I read the gameinformer review a month ago and they gave it a seven I guess I was doing other things at the time so I forgot ,yet anyways reviewers wecome back to 2D you have to earn it a tile at a time  8)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: darkmanx_429 on September 04, 2011, 07:16:22 PM
Wow, from the looks of this game it looks great considering it's a BloodRayne title. I'll have to try this one out...
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 06, 2011, 02:11:43 AM
I have to agree wholeheartedly here. They delivered what we wanted for years, with an unrelated franchise. Why the HELL didn't they give them the Castlevania license?! AUGH!! So pissed right now!!

I'm going to love this game, and yet probably hate every minute of it knowing this could have been one of the greatest Castlevania games ever.

Pretty much THIS!!

I'm itching to play this game, but in the back of my mind I can't shake the "dammitsomuch!!! This should've been Castlevania" feeling. 

Oh well, let us all be thankful that at least someone cared enough to step up to the plate and make exactly what some of us hardcore fans have been asking for.  It may not "technically" be a Cv, but we can all pretend that the game takes place in the oldschool Cv universe, just with a different group of evil dudes (it's not like Dracula is the only bad guy in the world). She's like a female Alucard, only less whiney and mopey.

WayForward really deserves our praise and support just for the effort alone. The fact that the reviews have been overwhelmingly positive shows that those efforts are worth laying down some cash for. Seriously, if you claim to love Cv at all, send Konami a message and GO BUY THIS!! (and then spread the word in the various formus you post in).

It's very possible we'll never see WayForward make an actual Cv, but supporting this game couldn't do anything but make it more likely.


With the QTEs, kinda, but the whip combat itself kinda reminds me of a bizarre hybrid of... Ninja Gaiden and Rygar? LoS and GoW look like they do different things with combat.

My thoughts exactly. From the moment I played it, it came off much more like NG than anything else.  there is some GoW in there, but not much (whip like weapon doesn't count)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: whitedragon_nall on September 07, 2011, 06:08:40 AM
So did anybody pick this up yet? Just curious as to what your opinions are on it. I'm probably gonna download it when I get off work.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on September 07, 2011, 08:28:18 AM
I can't for a while...I have no pstripple at grad school ;_; I'll have to wait till November to enjoy it. T_T
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: crisis on September 07, 2011, 08:50:10 AM
I'll download it once I get outta "work," unyuu~
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Kingshango on September 07, 2011, 10:04:04 AM
Playing the demo on my 360 right now, my thoughts so far:

Controls are nice but it make take some time to get use to.

Visuals are nice complete with some great animation through the background sometimes overlap.

Combat is decent (think The Dishwasher/Shank) and the dash is very useful for dodging enemy projectiles, which they will use often. And the handgun is useful for taking out multiple distant enemies, though it only aims at one direction and you need ammo for it.

Music is nice from what I've heard so far, sounds like something you would hear out of Curse of Darkness.

Overall it's a solid game and it's pretty much the closest thing to a new 2D Castlevania game (that's not a port or a mish mash of re used sprites) that we're gonna get untill Konami wakes up.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 07, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
Grabbed it this morning, and so far am loving it. Really feels like Cv1, only much faster and obviously much much prettier.

Whoever mentioned the Dishwasher above is spot on, feels a lot like that. The controls take a bit getting used to, but aren't difficult. The only Cv fans I could see NOT liking this would be those who hated LoS for it's fast combat. Reason being, this game requires some serious reflexes and timing (particularly when dodging bullets). Button mashing will get you killed, you need to play the game how it was designed. Take the extra minute to read the 'How to Play' section in the options, doing so will make your life easier.

This game was absolutely designed to be played on a big screen TV! If you've got the setup, the game is simply magnificent to behold.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Oralox on September 07, 2011, 04:09:25 PM
I approve of what everyone said about the game. I have it too and im enjoying it very much.
It's wayforward's answer for there being no new castlevania this year.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Sindra on September 07, 2011, 07:15:12 PM
The only Cv fans I could see NOT liking this would be those who hated LoS for it's fast combat. Reason being, this game requires some serious reflexes and timing (particularly when dodging bullets).

I actually wouldn't mind a more fast-paced Castlevania game. It would add a new element to gameplay that we haven't seen before, so I say bring it on. The only reason I would say is a good reason not to make a CV game more fast-paced is that it would require larger maps to traverse in order to lengthen gameplay. (unless more/harder enemies were used to increase the time it took defeating them)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: whitedragon_nall on September 07, 2011, 08:39:40 PM
The platforming in this SCREAMS Castlevania. I find the combat to be really fun too, but the platforming is SOOOO good. It's a damn pretty game as well. On level 6 and IMO, the game is worth the $15 price tag...or $12 for PS+ members.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Profbeanburrito on September 07, 2011, 08:48:03 PM
I just played the demo and I'm really impressed. I could see how this could really work for a Castlevania game, but I think with some minor changes. Maybe not have the arcade style "can't leave the screen until all enemies are defeated" thing, and maybe add some more platforming with things like whip swinging, but that's just my opinion. Really awesome game though. Might have to get it when I have some extra cash
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Munchy on September 07, 2011, 10:16:01 PM
From what I've seen, the game looks like a nice hybrid between Castlevania, the GBA Astro Boy, and perhaps a pinch of Mega Man X. Not a bad combination at all; I'll try it out when I finish my homework reading.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 07, 2011, 11:12:33 PM
lol, it does remind me of Astro Boy now that you mention it. Played though AB a few weeks ago in fact, awesome game. Treasure are truly one of the oldschool treasures of gaming.

Back to BR, just want to warn you guys, I'm on level 12 or 13, and the platforming becomes ridiculously unforgiving at times with practically no leeway. Some sections I had to repeat at about 20 or more times. While annoying, Cv1 had the same issue, learn the game or die, so it doesn't actually bother me.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 08, 2011, 02:39:00 AM
Well, just beat it. Simply an astounding game!! I'd give it a 9.5 out of 10.  Once you learn and yet comfortable with all the moves, the game becomes absolutely badass! Game was all kinds of difficult in platforming too...

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Anyhoo, if anyone needs help, just let me know. The path is fairly strait forward, so you're not gonna get lost. As I said before, BloodRayne plays like a stage by stage Castlevania, but with the combat of AstroBoy and the Dishwasher, with possibly a little of the xbox Ninja Gaiden thrown in for good measure.

I'm hoping it sells well, and either Konami invites WF to make a 2D Cv, or WF just makes a sequel to this. Honestly, after playing through the entire game, I could go either way. I honestly don't care that it's not a Cv game anymore, and just love it for what it is. Would be really cool though, that since this game progressed more like Cv1,  that for the next one they went in more of a Cv3 direction, giving you multiple paths, and possibly a second character to play as...

*BIG SPOILER BELOW*

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Anyhoo, go get this! You're hardcore gamer status will be immediately revoked if you fail to do so.


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Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: KaZudra on September 08, 2011, 02:55:08 AM
DRACULA!!!!!!! right?
the final boss, right?
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: whitedragon_nall on September 08, 2011, 05:57:52 AM
How are your rankings, VK? I can't seem to get any higher than a C. I range from C to F on every level. Do I suck at the game that bad or is it this unforgiving for everyone?
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: C Belmont on September 08, 2011, 07:07:48 AM
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I'm hoping it sells well
Me too, because if it does sell well it could make a console 2D castlevania look more viable to Konami and give Operation Akumajo some extra ammunition. Although I'm probably still gonna skip it myself just because of the gore in the game & the immature pride which Wayforward seems to have for that particular aspect.

Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 08, 2011, 08:01:53 AM
How are your rankings, VK? I can't seem to get any higher than a C. I range from C to F on every level. Do I suck at the game that bad or is it this unforgiving for everyone?

I'm the same, C's to F's across the board (mostly F's :() Sadly, I "feel" like I'm kicking butt too. Guess not.

I think to get a better score, not dying while getting through a level as quickly as possible (and collecting some treasures along the way to boost score), is key. When it comes to scoring, the game is quite unforgiving.


Me too, because if it does sell well it could make a console 2D castlevania look more viable to Konami and give Operation Akumajo some extra ammunition. Although I'm probably still gonna skip it myself just because of the gore in the game & the immature pride which Wayforward seems to have for that particular aspect.

IDK, for what it's worth, the game really isn't that gory. The Dishwasher is much much worse (my wife can't even wath me play that game, lol). Not really a valid argument for not buying BloodRayne IMO, unless you just can't stomach the animated blood (like it makes you feel ill to look at). The gameplay itself, blood or no, is superb though. Feel like you'd be missing out.

If you can't stomach it, that sucks, but I kinda understand. As much as I enjoyed the Dishwasher, that game can be a bit too much in the gore department for me at times, so I don't play it as often.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Sindra on September 08, 2011, 06:27:56 PM
Christ, scoring on this is brutal. Does anyone know what the time/health bonuses have to be to achieve them? Seems like they're the only way to guarantee anything higher than a C. ;_;
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Oralox on September 08, 2011, 11:16:41 PM
So VK...

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Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 09, 2011, 07:54:01 AM
GASP, how did you know!? ;D
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: sad6666 on September 09, 2011, 10:04:21 AM
When I knew about this game, this was the first place I thought of for some opinions about it :D

I downloaded it, and I'm really enjoying it... so CVish. I got the chance to get the game rip soundtrack, I know it's not SOTN but it's ok. It also has all of the game tracks in NES version, that was a nice touch. Is it an unlockable or something?

Also, I may say it is a hard game, but I'm sure all of you guys are not really having that much trouble. I'm progressing nicely, without frustration so far (but dying many many times) and I think that's because of the CV experience through all these years.

Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 09, 2011, 02:32:49 PM
Major spoiler below....

















No, seriously......
























I warned you.....






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If you want to know where......






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Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on September 10, 2011, 04:43:17 AM
Wow, now THAT is interesting. :o :o :o
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: darkmanx_429 on September 10, 2011, 01:29:19 PM
Is there a pkg out for it yet?
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: whitedragon_nall on September 10, 2011, 05:05:00 PM
Well, I beat the game a few minutes ago. The platforming, which is easily my favorite part, becomes simply brutal later on. Some of them really teeter on the edge of impossibility. SOOO satisfying when you pass them though. This is one hell of a game and everyone who can buy it definitely should.

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Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 11, 2011, 09:04:40 AM
Well, I beat the game a few minutes ago. The platforming, which is easily my favorite part, becomes simply brutal later on. Some of them really teeter on the edge of impossibility. SOOO satisfying when you pass them though. This is one hell of a game and everyone who can buy it definitely should.

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Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: whitedragon_nall on September 11, 2011, 10:37:55 AM

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I've been collecting Red Skulls that I missed on my first playthrough and still can't improve my level scores. I think I need to utilize the explosives better and use that technique Rayne has where she can "feed poison" enemies and make them blow up.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 12, 2011, 01:48:07 AM
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I've been collecting Red Skulls that I missed on my first playthrough and still can't improve my level scores. I think I need to utilize the explosives better and use that technique Rayne has where she can "feed poison" enemies and make them blow up.

I've been able to get an A rating (between 75,000 - 99,999) on a few levels thus far, and B on a few more. So far getting B's doesn't seem that difficult, you just have to know the level.

Here's some more hints for getting better a score that have worked for me...

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I'm far from perfect at the game, but I'm getting better. So far my highest single stage score is around 95,000. Getting a "Dhampire" rating requires at least 100,000. So close yet so far.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: whitedragon_nall on September 12, 2011, 07:07:37 AM
Thanks for the tips!  :)

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Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 12, 2011, 03:10:37 PM
If you haven't done it already, here's how to get past that area...


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Good luck, you'll need it.

I've been able to get S rank on a few stages (1 & 3), and A on a few more. Some of the fights are like puzzles.

My only complaint about the game is how fekin long it takes to stand up. Seriously, wth!? And nailing the instant stand up is neigh impossible. They really needed to offer a little leyway in the time alloted to press the jump button (like within the first full second), or have made it so that you could continuously press the jump button to make youself standup faster. I think that would be preferable.

A move wherein you can perform an instant counter-attack as you stand up would have been nice, as the enemies have a REALLY annoying tendency to perfectly time their attacks to hit you the moment your invincibility frames end while getting up. Like if you hit X at just the right moment, you would do some powerful auto-counter to which ever enemy was attacking you.

I suppose that, like the rest f the game, the knockdown is so annoying as a means to teach you to not get hit, but give us a break. There's only so many tricks an old dog can learn.

The only other issue I've had is that I feel some of the frames should allow for cancelation into either a dash or a gunshot.

Other than that though, the game is excellent. I heard that Destructiod.com gave it a 2/10. Fekin BS, that is!  Guy has a history of low-balling games that he lacks the skill to play well. Douche move if you ask me.

I'd rate it a 9/10. Would have given it a 10/10 if it weren't for the timing being so extremely exacting in a few areas where it needs a little leyway. But just a little. Too much and it would ruin the feel of the game. As much as I loved the Dishwasher, it felt too loose at times. BloodRayne feels solid, like it has weight to it, if you know what I mean.

Anyhoo, I feel bad because I know I need to get back to my artwork, but I can't stop playing this. Like a damn drug it is!!































One last secret.....

Everyone who has this game should do this, as it makes the games music A LOT better. If you look through the Concept Art, you'll see a code. Press all the buttons displayed (Lstick & Rstick, LB  & RB, LT & RT, Back & Start) simultaniously on the map screen to switch the game music to 8-bit. No joke, music sounds incredibly Cv-ish this way!
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Neobelmont on September 12, 2011, 10:07:05 PM
Have not bought this yet but yeah might consider getting it all because of this thanks VK






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Other than that though, the game is excellent. I heard that Destructiod.com gave it a 2/10. Fekin BS, that is!  Guy has a history of low-balling games that he lacks the skill to play well. Douche move if you ask me.


If it is Jim Sterling do not be surprised he does this with every game even if it is good.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: KaZudra on September 12, 2011, 11:01:11 PM
http://virt.bandcamp.com/album/bloodrayne-betrayal-official-soundtrack (http://virt.bandcamp.com/album/bloodrayne-betrayal-official-soundtrack)

you Can Download the Soundtrack here.

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Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 13, 2011, 08:04:12 AM
Have not bought this yet but yeah might consider getting it all because of this thanks VK

Glad I could help. Game REALLY deserves a purchase. The NES version of the music sounds like it's right out of CvII.


http://virt.bandcamp.com/album/bloodrayne-betrayal-official-soundtrack (http://virt.bandcamp.com/album/bloodrayne-betrayal-official-soundtrack)

you Can Download the Soundtrack here.

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Thanks  8) . Now I don't have to DL it by other means ;)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Chernabogue on September 13, 2011, 11:22:36 AM
Just found the link elsewhere. I didn't know it was JAKE "VIRT" KAUFMAN who did the music for this. Holy crap.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Sindra on September 13, 2011, 07:51:07 PM
Just found the link elsewhere. I didn't know it was JAKE "VIRT" KAUFMAN who did the music for this. Holy crap.

Me neither! I just figured that out! And now I feel like such a 'tard!  :-X
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on September 14, 2011, 11:11:51 AM
Holy crap, there's an ACTUAL OFFICIAL 8bit version of the soundtrack? THese guys really do love Castlevania. DAMN U KONAMI!!!! Y DIDNT U GIVE CV TO THEM?!?!?!
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on September 14, 2011, 01:17:13 PM
Wow, listening to the NES versions of the songs... hell yeah, get this guy do compose for the next CV. Wayforward + Kaufman + 2D CV = AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Sindra on September 15, 2011, 01:10:39 PM
So I guess there are some so-called "Castlevania fans" on Youtube denouncing the music to this game as an uninspired attempt at Castlevania music.

I wish these asshats would stop calling themselves Castlevania fans. They give the rest of us bad names, because the music for this game is pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on September 15, 2011, 03:44:11 PM
*kicks them* It's castlevania-y cause Wayforward should have done the next Castlevania game >:[ >:[ >:[
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 15, 2011, 04:27:34 PM
Yeah, anyone saying that the music isn't Cv'ish, especially the 8-bit tracks, is a moron (or just simply lacks any creative thinking abilites...which probably means they're a moron). Ever since I unlocked the 8-bit tunes, I use them exclusively.

If I had to say which Cv, musically, they reminded me most of, I'd have to say Belmont's Revenge. What say you guys?

Anyhoo, how are you guys doing as far as getting high scores go? So far I've been able to get S-Rank on chapters 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, & 9. The rest I have either an A or a B, except for chapter 12, which I'm still a lowely C. Honestly, I have my doubts that I'll ever be able to complete 12 with anything higher than a B.

Currently, I'm ranked either a 9 or a 10 in the overall rankings on XBL (apostleXIII is my XBL name), so I certainly don't suck at the game, and can honestly say, hopefully w/o sounding too arrogant, that I'm pretty darn good at it.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on September 15, 2011, 06:35:54 PM
Wait, who's bad mouthing these songs on YouTube? Are the comments for the playthrough videos or the OST vids, because I've seen some OST vids and everybody commenting are have nothing but good things to say.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: whitedragon_nall on September 16, 2011, 09:12:43 AM
Anyhoo, how are you guys doing as far as getting high scores go? So far I've been able to get S-Rank on chapters 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, & 9. The rest I have either an A or a B, except for chapter 12, which I'm still a lowely C. Honestly, I have my doubts that I'll ever be able to complete 12 with anything higher than a B.

Currently, I'm ranked either a 9 or a 10 in the overall rankings on XBL (apostleXIII is my XBL name), so I certainly don't suck at the game, and can honestly say, hopefully w/o sounding too arrogant, that I'm pretty darn good at it.

You need to send some of your skill my way. :-\ My biggest issue right now is I jump into almost every battle with a hack 'n slash, button mash mind set, but to get the time bonus on a battle, you have to be a bit more tactical in your approach. I haven't been playing a whole lot this past week, so I am a bit out of practice. Perhaps I'll make a wholehearted attempt at it this weekend.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 19, 2011, 12:23:02 AM
Well, I was ranked 8th for a bit, and then went back down to 9th. In the end, I'll probably end up in the teens, as the kids with few people with autistic skill at this game edge higher and higher in the brackets. Although maybe not. There seems to be a cap on each level, not technically, just that only so much can be scored. Already it looks like that for some chapters, the cap is pretty close to the top.

Anyhoo, I've since achieved S-Rank for chapter 4 as well as 13 (OMG!), which I was amazed I actually accomplished. Considering how difficult the platforming is in that stage, they seem to have given some leeway in allowing you to die a few times (like 2 or 3 max I think), but still get your health bonus. Also got an A on 15. Feck hard this game is, sometimes cheaply so, but it's great.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on September 19, 2011, 09:29:53 AM
I bought the soundtrack.  It's that good.
Paid $5. :3
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 19, 2011, 10:22:48 PM
Agreed  8)


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Currently I'm ranked S on most chapters, and A on a remaining few (only four I think). Still not sure I'll be able to do it.

While going for an S-Rank, I've found that I can only play the game for so long, before I have to put the controller down. Once I get continually frustrated, I lose my ability to play well. Usually, I do best when I first start playing. Been attempting S-Rank only a few chapters at a time.

Sheesh, if I'm this good, I'd love to see vids of people who are at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on September 21, 2011, 01:25:24 PM
Vampire Killer, you are pro. 8)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Wallachia on September 21, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
HOLY SANGUINE SHIT!!

That track Sanguine Nightmare (NES) is utterly fantastic.. better than the old CV tunes. I want to redo it as a metal version even..
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Gunlord on September 21, 2011, 09:04:45 PM
Yeah, I'm listening to it right now. Jake Kaufman REALLY knows what he's doing...o_o
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 21, 2011, 10:27:35 PM
Vampire Killer, you are pro. 8)

Thank you.  :D

I've been trying to get S-Rank on chapter 15. I cam e to realize today that the only way to do it is to play almost perfectly. You can die a few times and still get full bonus, but the only way to get at least 100,000 points, is to get not only the time but also the health bonus for every battle. Painful. I'm starting to wonder if I basically paid for a $15 torture simulator.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: BingleGod on September 24, 2011, 06:07:20 PM
Quote from: Wallachia
Sanguine Nightmare (NES) is utterly fantastic.. better than the old CV tunes.

lol
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Super Waffle on September 28, 2011, 05:12:54 AM
This game froze my Xbox and made my controller lock in vibrator mode the first time I made it to the first coffin at the end of the first level.

I'd been playing for about 10 minutes.

Quality game.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: crisis on September 28, 2011, 06:06:40 AM
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This game froze my Xbox and made my controller lock in vibrator mode

lol
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 28, 2011, 07:37:07 AM
...and made my controller lock in vibrator mode the first time I made it to the first coffin at the end of the first level.

Did you take proper advantage of the situation?

Also, it crashed once on me too, can't remember what level though.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Sumac on September 28, 2011, 10:24:39 AM
Played the demo.
Game looks astonishing, just like true HD Castlevania should've look. Music is good too.
Gameplay need some time to get used to. Big jump is hard to figure out.
The only complaint is that controls are a bit unresponsive.

I'll buy it as soon as I have possibility to do it.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on September 29, 2011, 04:55:48 PM
Played the demo.
Game looks astonishing, just like true HD Castlevania should've look. Music is good too.
Gameplay need some time to get used to. Big jump is hard to figure out.
The only complaint is that controls are a bit unresponsive.

I'll buy it as soon as I have possibility to do it.

I know what you mean. The animations do not cancel at all, which makes it difficult because action games tend to allow that.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: crisis on October 02, 2011, 10:11:52 AM
So after finally beating this game last night (late, I know), I can truly say that I agree with with all the positive things said, and that this game is more of a "love letter" to Castlevania than Lords of Shadow will ever be

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WayForward MUST make the next 2D CV
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: darkmanx_429 on October 02, 2011, 10:37:57 AM
PKG of it is out...yes this game could have been a top quality sequel to SOTN if they would of threw in Castlevania elements!
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Jago on October 09, 2011, 11:23:46 AM
Wow, didn't know the latest Bloodrayne went with a 2D style. Will def have to check this out now.
Title: What are your thoughts about bloodrayne betrayel on the psn?
Post by: Dracul on October 27, 2011, 05:08:50 PM
I was weary about the game the graphics looked interesting, its rather castlevania like and quite hard if you don't realize that in order to feed you have to hold down the button LMAO. <-- i fail hahahahahahhha

I was dissapointed no good cutscreens or voice acting, but its kinda fun.  Glad they do something with her.  I"m like totally obsessed with bloodrayne maybe moreso then castlevania god.... I have a bloodrayne statue nearly all the comics, an action figure, all the games on mulitiple systems, glad she doesn't exist she'd have too much power over me HAHAHAH.

MODS, I didn't want to be guilty of thread necrophillia so I started a new topic.
Title: Re: What are your thoughts about bloodrayne betrayel on the psn?
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on October 27, 2011, 05:24:55 PM
Th-that's thread NECROMANCY.
Which only applies to topics that are more than a few months old.  The Bloodrayne Betrayal topic was last responded to on October 9th, so it's still a fresh topic, only it feel back one page.

**merges topics**
Title: Re: What are your thoughts about bloodrayne betrayel on the psn?
Post by: Dracul on October 28, 2011, 11:40:34 AM
Th-that's thread NECROMANCY.

So having sex with dead threads is allowed then? LMAO j/k

*thx for the merge forgot it was just a bit back*
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: K.G. Morder on February 06, 2012, 06:28:41 PM
Just bought this and played it. I love this so damn much. Brings a smile to my face. It's actually much easier than I expected, by looking at the trailer, I expected a much more difficult time, but half the time, the stages themselves kill me rather than the fights.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on February 09, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
Just wanted to chime in and say that I'm currently ranked 5th overall on the leaderboards.

I "might" be able to get to even 3rd or 4th, but there is no way in hell I can get higher than that. Some of the top scores for some levels seem literally impossible, like I think they cheated kind of impossible. I say this because for some stages, I know that even if I did every fight perfect, and got full bonus for both time and health, I'd still be around 20,000 point less than the top score.

Maybe I'm just missing something, but at this point, I doubt it. Not sure if it's a hack, or some kind of point exploit that someone has discovered.

Either way, I'll still try to improve on some of my scores, but as it is, I doubt that I'll be able to get much higher.

Even so, 5th is pretty fekin' good! I'm happy with it, and even if I eventually get knocked back down again, I know for certain that all my scores are legit. 8)
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: keeperxiii on February 10, 2012, 04:16:22 AM
I know what you mean. The animations do not cancel at all, which makes it difficult because action games tend to allow that.

Eesssh. I hate that crap in 2D action games, but the game looks great. Too bad it isn't available for PC.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on February 12, 2012, 02:11:44 AM
Well, finally made it to 4th, with an overall score of 1,619,433. XBL name is apostleXIII if you wanna check it out.

Possible I could make it to 3rd, as the player above me is only about 3,500 points ahead of me.  I doubt 2nd though, and 1st is literally impossible (guy must've cheated as I see no way to get that high of a score, but I could be wrong). I mean, the first place contender has 58,384 points than me, and for most stages I'm pretty close to the maximum score as it is. Wish I could see a replay of how it was done.

Game makes me feel like a sadist while playing, as I'm now punishing myself attempting to get every little thing on each stage absolutely perfect.

Cheapness makes it somewhat a matter of luck, but for some reason I keep coming back.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: KaZudra on February 14, 2012, 11:03:38 PM
BTW finally played it...
Music is amazing, but as a 2-d beat em up it's alright... Dishwasher is easily superior.
as for what castlevania should be, this is far from it.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: JR on February 14, 2012, 11:09:23 PM
I agree. I thought this game looked amazing, but when I sat down and played it, I just couldn't get into it. I only played the first 3 or 4 stages and just couldn't be bothered with the rest.

I dunno, I'll probably try it again one of these days, because I hate the thought of spending 15 bucks on a game that won't get played.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on February 15, 2012, 01:05:26 PM
Well, unlike you guys, I've played the heck out'a this game. As difficult and frustrating it can be, I just can't seem to stop trying for a better score.

And speaking of score, with a grand total of 1,640,388 points, I am now in....  :o3rd PLACE!:o

To which I can only say hell-fek'in-YES!!!  Took some serious harcore gaming skills, but I made it to third. And what's best, I got there by boosting my scores on some of the most difficult stages in the game.

Only problem is that I'm only just slightly ahead of the guy I overtook. I plan on going back and trying to improve my scores on a few previous stages, but only to make a larger wedge between myself and the guy I stole third from  ;D.  The guy in 2nd is beating me by 37,429. No way I'm gonna be able to add that many to my overall score, so 3rd it is. Honestly, after playing the heck out of this game, I still cannot understand how the guys in 1st and 2nd got that high of a score. In many of the stages there is just not that many point available, for them to have the score they have. Especially the guy in 1st.

I guess what I'm lamely trying to say is, that unless I can see a vid or read a faq displaying how they got scores that high, I believe they either somehow cheated, or found some kind of point exploit on certain stages, that the devs never intended. And if so, that means that as far a pure overall skill at the game goes, I'm actually 1st 8)

I know it sound like I'm choking on sour grapes, but believe me, some of the 1st and 2nd place scores they've gotten are just damn impossible to get, unless there is literally some hidden trove to bonus treasures in those stages which only they have found.  Possible, but not bloody likely.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on February 16, 2012, 01:29:17 PM
Just updating my progress:

Well, I smashed through chapter 11 again, this time scoring 114,980, almost 14,000 points higher that my previous score. Still though, even with the added points, I'm still 24,349 points behind the guy in second. My score on stage 12 is only about 101,000. I'm pretty sure I can probably add at least 6 or 7 thousand to that. Even so, I'm gonna have to find some other stages I can do just slightly better on, to pad my score.

Getting 2nd might be possible. Might.
Title: Re: Bloodrayne Betrayal
Post by: Vampire Killer on February 22, 2012, 03:15:21 PM
Okay, another update :o


I feel so stupid for not figuring this out beforehand. When I complained earlier about some of the scores that the top 3 players had gotten on some stages, I figured that they were either cheating or using some sort of exploit. Well, I was half right.

On certain stages, there is an enemy which is baiscally a pulsating meat sack thing which continuously spits out these annoying flies. Killing the flies normally doesn't grant any points, BUT, if you grab a fly in your hands as it's attacking you, then explode it, you get 100 points. That's it, only 100. But the sack will continuously spit out flies indefinitely, so if you're patient enough, you can get a really high score doing this.

I'm gonna try it, and do it at least enough times to get 1st in stage 2 (the first stage this is possible on). Figured it's gonna take close to 1000X, so it will probably take my about an hour.

Sad that I care that much about a damn score.  All three players above me have inflated scores on stages which allow for this exploit, which confirms my theory though, that according to how the devs meant the game to be played, I might actually be in 1st. :)

Not sure how the devs missed this one. I suppose they just never figured anyone would be lame enough to do it. Not me though, I am that lame, dammit! (but only because someone else did it first)