Topic: Strongest Non-Belmont

[The Last Belmont]

In Reply To #29

Dracula was just resurrected when Hector fought him, so he was weak enough to be killed by him.

I could understand this logic if Dracula in the game wasn't so damn hard. He had 2 full forms and the second form is one of the hardest dracula forms out of any game with probably only COTM rivaling it in terms of sheer toughness. If dracula had only one form like OOE and then he died I could understand this being the case. But I think he displays way too much power to not be at his full power or close to it. The creature He turns into is a giant devil creature very similar to his final form in CVIII. I'll need to go back and scrutinize the fight and try to see if I can find some sort of an explanation  because that's been driving me nuts for awhile now. I'm sure Iga has one, or it's there and I'm just not seeing it. Because creating a sequel to his favorite game and then screwing up dracula's power ranking wouldn't be the smartest thing to do.

[Battler Ushiromiya]

In Reply To #28

Similarly, the Lecarde Sisters were under Brauner's Mind-Control. Still were villains.

[Mobius]

Dude, it's best not to factor game-play elements into any CV story or plot context. - Credit for Drac's toughness in CoD goes to the programmers.

[The Last Belmont]

Dude, it's best not to factor game-play elements into any CV story or plot context. - Credit for Drac's toughness in CoD goes to the programmers.

It's just weird how he transforms into his trademark demon creature thing in an incomplete phase.

[Mobius]

Actually, on that subject, I always felt that Dracula could accomplish that by drawing his opponent into the chaos realm with him. I mean, Circle of the Moon, CV 64/Legacy, and even HoD had the final fights taking place on bizarre planes of some parallel dimension. In Portrait, Drac basically drew upon Death's power for the first time to achieve his demon form on the physical plane.

It's just a thought.

[The Last Belmont]

Actually, on that subject, I always felt that Dracula could accomplish that by drawing his opponent into the chaos realm with him. I mean, Circle of the Moon, CV 64/Legacy, and even HoD had the final fights taking place on bizarre planes of some parallel dimension. In Portrait, Drac basically drew upon Death's power for the first time to achieve his demon form on the physical plane.

It's just a thought.

You're right I didn't think of that. Dracula may have moved the fight to a different realm because he couldn't truly manifest on the physical plane, not enough power or something. He might have been like half alive and half dead. I guess if dracula can truly manifest on the physical plane that represents his true power, (the 100 year cycle) when he goes to other realms that may represent his attempt to fight you with his true form in an incomplete weakened state not strong enough to manifest yet on earth. Makes sense, thanks for the rebuttal homes.

[Mobius]

You're welcome, carnal.

[darkwzrd4]

In Reply To #29

Dracula was just resurrected when Hector fought him, so he was weak enough to be killed by him.

Actually, his soul was using Issac's body as a vessel.  So, he wasn't truly resurrected, however the explaination is that Dracula wasn't at his full power.  After all, he does wonder if the transformation wasn't complete, which may explain why Dracula lacks his full power.

[paletteswapmonster]

Actually, his soul was using Issac's body as a vessel.  So, he wasn't truly resurrected

That's probably just another way for him to be revived.

[The Last Belmont]

That's probably just another way for him to be revived.

I agree. I think the factor was time. He hadn't been dead long enough to bring his true self into the physical realm. He had to fight Hector in a diff. realm that he was able to maintain the form in. As a result it was way weaker.

[Baigan]

In Reply To #31

And of course if Hector was weaker against Dracula that would make Dracula appear harder...

[The Last Belmont]

In Reply To #31

And of course if Hector was weaker against Dracula that would make Dracula appear harder...

True dat.

[uzo]

The 'alternate dimension battle' was also present in Rondo and DXC. Those were 100 year cycle games if I am not mistaken.

[The Last Belmont]

The 'alternate dimension battle' was also present in Rondo and DXC. Those were 100 year cycle games if I am not mistaken.

True, maybe in that game dracula just chooses to move locations. Unless Richters just taking some special "enhancements" during the fight. Or this might be why Shaft has such an easy time ressurrecting him and taking control of Richter, may have all been part of drac's plan to get rid of the belmont clan.

[paletteswapmonster]

After failing so much, Dracula probably tried that thinking it would make him strong enough to kill Richter.