Topic: Would you buy a Castlevania "box set"?

[paletteswapmonster]

um, yeah just yeah, This is exactly the response I expected. Are you gonna give me a valid response or just keep stating that the game sucks just for the mere fact that other people say it does? The games feels like CV3 with all the outside environments, character interaction and buddy system. That's what I meant by that line that you seem to find funny for some reason. I will no longer respond to blatant fanboyism. If you think LOI is better explain, give me an intelligent well thought out opinion not yelling at me that I'm wrong and your right. That's no way to argue your point if you want to convince anybody of anything.

Did you even bother to read my post correctly?

[Saroor]

In Reply To #39

lolwut.
Nahhhhh.
Uhhhhh....wrong. I can clearly tell that s/he isn't open-minded enough due to the reasoning.

CoD is better than Judgment, I truly believe it to be. And, quite honestly, you're full of it man. You can't tell they are not open minded from what was posted.

[paletteswapmonster]

In Reply To #39

CoD is better than Judgment, I truly believe it to be. And, quite honestly, you're full of it man. You can't tell they are not open minded from what was posted.

Ok, you think it's better. That's fine. I just think that it's ludicrous to say that the quality of CoD is better than Judgment's.

[The Last Belmont]

Did you even bother to read my post correctly?

Let's analyze it shall we?

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. What makes CoD good and so much better than LoI? CoD was crap.

Fanboyism, you like LOI better that's your opinion and your entitled to it. Please intelligently respond to my posts with valid evidence/points to back up what your'e saying.

Nothing could cover up for its crap enemies, UBER COPY/PASTE OLOLOL,

so that's never been done before? The nes castlevanias did that and so did sonic, lots of games do this, this doesn't make the game bad if developers like certain sprites so much they include them in other games. It's a very common practice.

and very slow movement

 I didn't see any of this very slow movement you speak of unless you mean certain innocent devils then I agree. But this hardly makes the game "crap" as you put it.

At least LoI makes up for having better level design and much, much, much better combat.

Much better combat? that's all up for opinion personally I hated how every enemy took 50 hits with the best whip in the game. And the level design in LOI I find unthought out and very repetitive at times with many rooms being identical to others. The overall graphical presentation is more thought out and polished but more polished graphics don't make a better game in and of itself.

Leon also doesn't run at the speed of a turtle with weights.[

Neither does hector they both run at pretty near the same speed actually. I don't know if your game is messed up or something but I never had any speed issues unless that's a problem with the xbox version which I've never played.

One more thing that wasn't mentioned that I feel really hurt LOI was no Dracula fight. The fight in COD is one of the hardest ever if you don't grind like crazy and very fluid,creative and innovative.

[paletteswapmonster]

Fanboyism, you like LOI better that's your opinion and your entitled to it. Please intelligently respond to my posts with valid evidence/points to back up what your'e saying.

Nice job just picking that out even though I put much more than that. You even responded to all of it afterwards!

so that's never been done before? The nes castlevanias did that and so did sonic, lots of games do this, this doesn't make the game bad if developers like certain sprites so much they include them in other games. It's a very common practice.

Um...what? I said "crap enemies and UBER COPY/PASTE OLOLOL". The enemies are less of a threat as they are in LoI, and the level design consists of nothing but bland repetitive corridors.

I didn't see any of this very slow movement you speak of unless you mean certain innocent devils then I agree. But this hardly makes the game "crap" as you put it.

Everyone complains about Hector and Trevor's speed. They're very slow.

Much better combat? that's all up for opinion personally I hated how every enemy took 50 hits with the best whip in the game. And the level design in LOI I find unthought out and very repetitive at times with many rooms being identical to others. The overall graphical presentation is more thought out and polished but more polished graphics don't make a better game in and of itself.

50 hits? That's a huge exaggeration. But then again, you probably didn't even bother to take advantage of multiple combos and such, but even so, it shouldn't be a problem. The game's system of upgrades and such is also nice, since it's much better than leveling up. It's also very hypocritical to be complaining about LoI's level design while CoD's is much, much worse(You actually have a use for the jump in LoI, for starters).

Neither does hector they both run at pretty near the same speed actually. I don't know if your game is messed up or something but I never had any speed issues unless that's a problem with the xbox version which I've never played.

Hector is slow. Then again, it's probably just an illusion made by the huge bland corridors.

One more thing that wasn't mentioned that I feel really hurt LOI was no Dracula fight. The fight in COD is one of the hardest ever if you don't grind like crazy and very fluid,creative and innovative.

This is a very silly complaint. Mathias turned into a vampire and disappeared while Death was left to fight you.

[The Last Belmont]

Nice job just picking that out even though I put much more than that. You even responded to all of it afterwards!

that was how your post came off, you picked out a few minor things after stating the game was complete shit. If you like LOI more I don't really care, but don't just go stating minor crap and calling the whole game shit.

50 hits? That's a huge exaggeration.

no it's not and i know all about the combos I've beat the game at level 99 and have put a lot of my own time and effort into beating it. some of the enemies take way too long to kill, it gets repetetive and boring.

Um...what? I said "crap enemies and UBER COPY/PASTE OLOLOL". The enemies are less of a threat as they are in LoI, and the level design consists of nothing but bland repetitive corridors.

that's up for debate the same can be argued with LOI, COD had a ton more locations than just 6 and a much fuller, more upbeat soundtrack that you can listen to outside of the game.

This is a very silly complaint. Mathias turned into a vampire and disappeared while Death was left to fight you.

exactly I don't like that aspect of the plot, mathias was a coward. And it's not silly to want to fight the lord of darkness when he's part of the main story of the game.

But I'm done arguing, I honestly don't care what games you like the best. Please don't go throwing your opinion around though like it's the only opinion that matters.

[paletteswapmonster]

no it's not and i know all about the combos I've beat the game at level 99 and have put a lot of my own time and effort into beating it. some of the enemies take way too long to kill, it gets repetetive and boring.

Uh...level 99? You realize that you don't even level up in that game, don't you? Have you even played the game? If you have, then it was probably only two areas at most. Enemies also don't take that long to kill. You must be very slow at the game(if you've even played it, that is). Even so, you don't have to fight all enemies.

that's up for debate the same can be argued with LOI, COD had a ton more locations than just 6 and a much fuller, more upbeat soundtrack that you can listen to outside of the game.

More locations aren't worth it when they're exactly the same as every other area in the game. All it does is make the game much more tedious. Also, ubeat music ≠ better music.

exactly I don't like that aspect of the plot, mathias was a coward. And it's not silly to want to fight the lord of darkness when he's part of the main story of the game.

It should be excusable when you know why you can't fight him.

[The Last Belmont]

Uh...level 99? You realize that you don't even level up in that game, don't you? Have you even played the game? If you have, then it was probably only two areas at most.

don't insult me I've played ever castlevania game to the ground, the innocent devils do level up and that is what I was talking about, I've gotten everyone of them to level 99. If you didn't know that fact then it is you who appears to not have played the game. And I would never form an opinion about any game let alone a castlevania game if I haven't finished it. (unless it is poorly programed and unplayable)

Enemies also don't take that long to kill. You must be very slow at the game(if you've even played it, that is). Even so, you don't have to fight all enemies.

And what are you talking about? Have you played LOI? Some of the enemies take a crapload of time to kill even with the best whip, especially that 3 phase boss fight. Don't call me a Liar I don't appreciate  nor do I tolerate it.

[Long John Silver]

In Reply To #54

exactly I don't like that aspect of the plot, mathias was a coward. And it's not silly to want to fight the lord of darkness when he's part of the main story of the game.

this would just shit on cv3, which estabilished it was the first time ever that a belmont fought against dracula. legends tried to undermine that and look what it got for that blatant cv3 ignorance. if iga were to do that now, imagine the shitstorm in the cv communities.

iga: buy my games prs
rabid legends fanboy #12892312: "wtf, iga you fat fuck, first you ban legends from your perfect timeline because it disregards everything cv3 estabilished and now you do the same?"
iga: me no speak engrish

don't insult me I've played ever castlevania game to the ground, the innocent devils do level up and that is what I was talking about, I've gotten everyone of them to level 99

i think he was talking about loi. it has no levels.

[justin312]

I thought Judgment and Curse of Darkness were both poorly executed.  The low budgets of the game are obvious when you are playing them.  That said, I don't think Lament of Innocence was that much better than CoD.  I think the biggest negative of CoD is that it did not fix the flaws of LoI and improve upon them. 

But I think everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Its totally fine for someone to think CoD was better than LoI, or vice versa.  There is no right or wrong answers to the question "what is your favorite and least favorite Castlevanias?"  I don't understand why some people take offense and start arguing because someone else posts an opinion they don't agree with.  In my opinion, the N64 games were better than LoI, CoD and Judgment.  You can agree or disagree, but its my opinion, you don't need to start a debate over it.

[paletteswapmonster]

don't insult me I've played ever castlevania game to the ground, the innocent devils do level up and that is what I was talking about, I've gotten everyone of them to level 99. If you didn't know that fact then it is you who appears to not have played the game. And I would never form an opinion about any game let alone a castlevania game if I haven't finished it. (unless it is poorly programed and unplayable)

What? You weren't even talking about leveling up the Innocent Devils. You said that it took you a crapload of time to kill the enemies in LoI even at level 99, even though LoI has no level-up system.

And what are you talking about? Have you played LOI? Some of the enemies take a crapload of time to kill even with the best whip, especially that 3 phase boss fight. Don't call me a Liar I don't appreciate  nor do I tolerate it.

Sure it takes a ton of time. In every Castlevania. It takes at least 50 hits...to kill a zombie.

[The Last Belmont]

But I think everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[paletteswapmonster]

completely agree here, it's the unintelligent fanboyish responses that get me.

Then I suggest leaving this place.

You sure like to jump to conclusions.

I also love how you call my opinions invalid simply because I disagree with you. They're perfectly valid. It's ok if you like CoD, but you've been giving terrible reasons.

[Kale]

But I think everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[The Last Belmont]

What? You weren't even talking about leveling up the Innocent Devils. You said that it took you a crapload of time to kill the enemies in LoI even at level 99, even though LoI has no level-up system.

I was thinking faster than I was typing, I meant I know all the combos in LOI and have beat COD at level 99. Just pointing out that I have played both games through. Then I continue talking about LOI.

Then I suggest leaving this place.

You sure like to jump to conclusions.

I also love how you call my opinions invalid simply because I disagree with you. They're perfectly valid. It's ok if you like CoD, but you've been giving terrible reasons.

You want me to leave, why, because it's hard for you to participate in valid discussions? It's gonna be rough for you to stay on any type of message board bro. The people on the starwars message board would have picked apart what you said alot more than I did. People are different. You posted nit picky things about COD and called the whole game shit. When I tried to get you to elaborate more you kept giving me the same old telling me the game was a complete pile of shit basically because you say it is. I actually go to forums to take part in relevant discussions not to arrogantly pass of my opinion as the correct one. I don't really care what games you like and don't but arrogance is a most unwise course to take when forming a rebuttal. I don't dislike you or anything hell it's just one dicussion, I just think toning down the arrogance would be a wise course of action.

Anyway let's get back to topic I respect your opinion even though i disagree with it. We should get back to talking about the box set.