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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3060 on: June 19, 2010, 04:16:22 PM »
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Personally I don't see how this is even up for discussion. The games have nothing to do with each other, end of story. You're all overthinking it.

That may be the case, but for some of us it's hard to just snap a finger and pretend the original timeline dosen't exist just cuz Cox says to. Especially when they have recurring characters...it's difficult not to make connections somehow.
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3061 on: June 19, 2010, 04:21:31 PM »
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So a "reboot" I had the feeling Kojima-sama would re-intervene the timeline.
But for some reason our new Belmont reminds me of the "Prince", from the "Sands of Time" saga.
That aside, its nice to read more commentary here. Who knows what other directions this new chapter might tap into?

Thunderbrand does make a point though..
And -This is not Metal Gear Solid..

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3062 on: June 19, 2010, 04:23:50 PM »
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Or maybe you missed where I clearly said "forgive the canon connections here".

I know it's a reboot for fuck's sake. Chill out. As I've said time and again, they can make whatever timeline they want but when you have recurring characters, it's hard NOT to connect the story somehow.

I find it incredibly hard to connect stories that are made to not be connected. Its just that simple fact that they aren't and never will be because that's exactly how the authors intended it.

Personally I don't see how this is even up for discussion. The games have nothing to do with each other, end of story. You're all overthinking it.

Exactly.

That may be the case, but for some of us it's hard to just snap a finger and pretend the original timeline dosen't exist just cuz Cox says to. Especially when they have recurring characters...it's difficult not to make connections somehow.

Well he did. What are you going to do about it? There are two canons now, and you just have to accept that.
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3063 on: June 19, 2010, 04:25:30 PM »
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That may be the case, but for some of us it's hard to just snap a finger and pretend the original timeline dosen't exist just cuz Cox says to. Especially when they have recurring characters...it's difficult not to make connections somehow.

Well yes, but when you make connections and find that things doesn't make sense, it's because LoS isn't meant to make any sense within the IGA timeline. So I think you all know the answer to your questions. If Laura is older than Dracula in this game, then she just is.

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3064 on: June 19, 2010, 04:33:38 PM »
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Well yes, but when you make connections and find that things doesn't make sense, it's because LoS isn't meant to make any sense within the IGA timeline. So I think you all know the answer to your questions. If Laura is older than Dracula in this game, then she just is.

Yea I understand that...and that's the kind of stuff I hope they at least somewhat explain in the game. Brand new fans won't question this stuff at all, but knowing what we know about these characters and the other games they've been in, it's difficult (for me anyway) to just pretend they aren't the same, or to just ignore their previous appearances.
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3065 on: June 19, 2010, 04:36:43 PM »
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All this talk about recurring characters and I haven't seen if anyone mentioned Olrox. It'd be pretty awesome if he returned as a boss  8)
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3066 on: June 19, 2010, 04:52:09 PM »
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it's difficult (for me anyway) to just pretend they aren't the same, or to just ignore their previous appearances.


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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3067 on: June 19, 2010, 05:00:56 PM »
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Just watched the new trailer. and my heart skipped a beat.
My god.. if only my 360 didn't rrod on me I would put a reserve on "Lords".

I get this inkling feeling that Thunderbrand is right. This is not a novel CV venture, its a legacy!
=D huzzah!


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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3068 on: June 19, 2010, 05:07:57 PM »
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Da new 360 slim supposedly doesn't have da red red ring 'o death! Food for thought...

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3069 on: June 19, 2010, 06:32:20 PM »
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Doesn't have it by design because they just took out the red LED lights LOL! It can still break down though. It's the same shit. Still has a massive power brick, still eats your discs if you move the console.
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow sucks
DmC: Devil may Cry is the equivalent of trailer trash
"badly designed fat left on Lords of Shadow 2's bones."

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3070 on: June 19, 2010, 07:26:06 PM »
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That may be the case, but for some of us it's hard to just snap a finger and pretend the original timeline dosen't exist just cuz Cox says to. Especially when they have recurring characters...it's difficult not to make connections somehow.
That's what fanfictions are for. Hell, look at the timeline now, with IGA and all the other games. People choose and pick what they want in the series, making their up their own timelines to reflect what their ideal vision of Castlevania. You have people trying to fit in CotM, Legends, CV64 and LoD(even the Resurrection, which wasn't even released) into IGA's canon. Surely working LoS into it, as well, can't be much harder than THAT. Just write it as fanfiction! It's a no-brainer, really/

Just say, like, the Cornell in LoS is the great ancestor of Cornell in the LoD(which he was named after). Carmilla's age, like Dracula in the CV series, can be open to speculation. I mean, in CV series, Dracula was DIFFERENT than his real-life counterpart. He was OLDER, and by the time(in our world) where Dracula was ruler of Romania, he was an old vampire lord(in CV's world). Same for Carmilla, who, I don't recall ever having a specific age tacked on to her character in this series. It could be possible that she IS older than Dracula. I mean, in IGA's timeline, Dracula was never the first vampire. Walter was older than him. Also, regarding Laura, in the novel of "Carmilla", she was a teenage girl living in the 1800s, but in RoB, she was a woman living in the late 1700s. CV's depiction of her is not unlike that of Dracula, so Laura in CV isn't bound to the novel's specifics. In CV, like Carmilla, her age isn't given, and she could very well be some girl Carmilla abducted in the early 11th century, is turned by Carmilla and acts as her vampire slave/daughter. An interesting thing regarding Carmilla in LoS is that her face has a similar look to the model we seen in DXC.

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3071 on: June 19, 2010, 09:54:46 PM »
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Doesn't have it by design because they just took out the red LED lights LOL! It can still break down though. It's the same shit. Still has a massive power brick, still eats your discs if you move the console.

You seem to just rally hate microsoft or the 360. But you don't know if they made it better or not. Unless you do and there was some statement saying "This is the same thing."

I agree about the stupid design choice though, oh, this can't give you a rrod cuz we made it so it literally can't, it'll do something else. fucking retarded.

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3072 on: June 19, 2010, 11:30:39 PM »
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Are people still taking sides in some "console wars"? Wow, that is so 1992!  :D I mean, you can't be serious, right?
If you really love video games you get all the systems, regardless of what it says on the box. Period.

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3073 on: June 20, 2010, 01:13:15 AM »
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I love video games. My first console was a Nintendo. I loved Super Nintendo, The Genesis, Playstation, N64, PS2, Xbox. I adore my PS3, and Wii when I had one but in my opinion, the 360 is just an outdated, faulty piece of hardware. There's no excuse for the rrod bullshit. None. There is no excuse for the console scratching your games up. There is no excuse for having to pay an extra $100 for wifi on the older models when it should've been there from the beginning like the PS3 has. Better late than never, right? Only 5 or so years too late.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdOjzuJByXg I mean come on now..

It's just simply inferior.

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow sucks
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"badly designed fat left on Lords of Shadow 2's bones."

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #3074 on: June 20, 2010, 01:23:15 AM »
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You also forgot to mention that it came out FIRST. So yeah, no shit, its gonna be a little less in some areas. Also the Wii isn't even HD, so it having Wifi early is offset by the other hardware being completely gimped. Maybe part of that 250$ was 100$ for the wifi and 150$ for a Gamecube with a remote. The PS3 was late to the party, and about 700$. Surely for 700$ it better have some damn wifi. As technology gets cheaper, they bring the price down. Heh, well, along with losing money on console sales.

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