Topic: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!(SPOILERS HERE, PLZ USE THE SPOILER TAG)

[DragonSlayr81]

I think if they remade the CV64/LoD games, totally fix the control/camera, give it a graphical overhaul(Maybe have Ayami Kojima or Hirooka Masaki redesign the characters, and totally abandon the anime-esque looks of the original, which I never cared for), that could possibly be the true 3D CV everybody would want.

[crisis]

At this rate you 360 owners won't see Resurrection till late July 


some random thoughts:

I'm still wondering where Dave Cox got the idea that "masks played a big role in earlier Castlevanias"

I think I would've preferred if MercurySteam kept Gabriel's surname hidden/unknown to us (including Cronqvist lineage). Let the player assume he's a Belmont.. let us assume he's the first Belmont. I don't like how Cox set in stone even before the game was released that he's a Belmont from the Cronqvist family. I don't like how they made a Belmont willingly become a vampire.

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I'm thinking upon Resurrection's conclusion, Gabriel/Dracula will relinquish the Combat CrossVampire Killer due to it's holy components.. b-but I have a hard time envisioning how his successor could also wield it if he's half-vampire.. unless the successor is somehow unrelated to Gabriel. I also doubt we will see Rinaldo until the sequel.

[Ahasverus]

I still bet the Belmonts won't come from him, just a boy from Wygol who remembers Gabriel and wants to take his surname in honor of the "hero of the heavens". Gabriel descendant will be Alucard. Unless Alucard had children before naming himself Alucard when being "Adrian belmont" but those children somehow wouldn't be vampires... I don't know, the whole Alucard Belmont stuff is lame, I'd take the village-boy route

[Maedhros]

It IS still in the minority though. the majority of the Metroid fanbase in fact, are now bitching about Other M, and how Prime was "sooo much better."

I think the original Prime was really something truly unique. It brought Metroid to 3D perfectly- as well as it's atmosphere. loneliness.

2 messed that up with the annoying dual world gameplay, and 3.. while fun to play,rather killed the atmosphere that made 1 and 2 so unique.

I still don't like it. That's it for the Off-topic.

[Vampire Killer]

I still bet the Belmonts won't come from him, just a boy from Wygol who remembers Gabriel and wants to take his surname in honor of the "hero of the heavens". Gabriel descendant will be Alucard. Unless Alucard had children before naming himself Alucard when being "Adrian belmont" but those children somehow wouldn't be vampires... I don't know, the whole Alucard Belmont stuff is lame, I'd take the village-boy route

Very possible. I feel it will be someone with links to his origin, as in his real parents, like a brother or something. Someone who has by blood the same amazing fighting abilities. Though village kid is more likely.

If Alucard makes an appearance I think it will be Gabe/Drac himself (meaning he's kinda representing Alucard in the LoS universe). Who knows, maybe Cox will make him the actual son of Gabe/Drac, and the reason Gabe/Drac has been in hiding for so many years is because his own son whooped his ass?

[Chernabogue]

Alucard Belmont? I missed that...

Well, I do hope the CV lore won't be completly butchered. LoS' story is cool, but I REALLY don't know how they can put Alucard in it. Make DaNasty, Belnades, Morris families or stuff like that appear, but let Gabe/Drac alone in his f****** dark chapel. He doesn't need children.

[Ahasverus]

and the reason Gabe/Drac has been in hiding for so many years is because his own son whooped his ass?

but let Gabe/Drac alone in his f****** dark chapel.

Remember Cox confirmed that Drac was not "hiding" at the epilogue, he was just resurrected. Kinda like the Ecclesia Dracula I think.
He's the Dracula we all know resurrecting and fighting hunters, it's just that we don't know anything about past battles yet (Only that Slogra was killed in the last one); he hasn't been hiding 100 years in a chapel of course, and that's not his real form (that part is confirmed by Cox) he's seen lots of better times.

[crisis]

Remember Cox confirmed that Drac was not "hiding" at the epilogue, he was just resurrected. Kinda like the Ecclesia Dracula I think.

I thought he said that he just hasn't fed in 100 years, didn't say anything about being resurrected..

[Ahasverus]

I thought he said that he just hasn't fed in 100 years, didn't say anything about being resurrected..

Read between lines I think? Most surely he wasn't in some kind of 100 years diet to keep his shape

[darkwzrd4]

Read between lines I think? Most surely he wasn't in some kind of 100 years diet to keep his shape

Obviously, we can't really know until the actual sequel comes out and explains things (assuming it does unlike the old cannon that is riddled with plot holes).

[Renonsgoods]

If I were doing this new series, here's the route I'd go as far as explaining future Belmonts.....and yes, Alucard himself.  

"Gabe has a half brother back with his real Cronqvist family who finds out about him in his formative years.  This brother (who's name is Adrian) becomes furious when he learns that his father abandoned his own bastard child to some random monastery....and goes looking for Gabe.  Adrian finds the remnants of the Order and the monks that raised Gabriel.  They tell him of Gabriel's legacy...how he became a great holy warrior and "died" destroying the Lords of Shadow for the sake of all humanity.  Adrian, swollen with pride for his brother's accomplishments (and as an act of spite for his father) takes the name Belmont to honor his fallen hero of a brother.  He takes up arms in the name of serving the church, and helps to start rebuilding the Order of Light.  

Years later Adrian has married and has a son (or sons).  He meets a long lost high ranking member of the Order who tells him of the vampiric presence that still haunts the hills about the town of Wygol.  This mysterious figure also tells him that the castle overlooking this town is where is brother Gabriel fell during his final battle against the Lords of Shadow.  Adrian, naturally, volunteers to venture to this dark castle to try and root out all evil that still roams there........and to perhaps discover the resting place of his lost brother.

Adrian journeys to Wygol, and fights his way to the spire of the Dark Keep.  When he arrives, he meets the keep's dark lord.....who only reveals himself as "Dracul".  Dracul recognises Adrian's garb, and asks him his name.  When Adrian tells him his name is Belmont......Dracul becomes enraged.  Convinced that the Order sent this man (labeled with his old surname as an  insult) to assassinate him, he attacks Adrian.  After a brief fight, Drac is impressed with the warrior's fighting prowess...and the two begin to jaw for a bit.  Drac is just revealing his true identity to his guest (much to Adrian's horror and disbelief) when one of Drac's vampire lieutenants enters and tries to attack Adrian.  Drac intervenes.....hurling the Combat cross (previously hidden beneath a cloak near Drac's throne) at the greater vampire, impaling him and sending him through a window....where he crashes upon the mountain and tumbles down to the outskirts of Wygol.

Adrian...ignoring Drac's momentary charity....tries to seize the opportunity to attack his quarry one more time.  Drac's patience runs out, and quickly subdues him.  Adrian taunts Drac to finish him, but the vampire lord tells him that he has a far worse fate in mind.  Instead, Drac bites him (turning him).

In the aftermath, Adrian flees to the bowels of the Dark Keep.  After his "becoming", he remains hidden below.....unwilling to venture back out amongst man (where he knows his new nature is likely to cause him to kill innocents).....but unable to end himself (lest his God damn his soul).  He swears vengeance against his maker....eventually taking the moniker "Alucard" as a spiteful jest against his creator.

Meanwhile, the townsfolk of Wygol recover the Combat Cross, and assume that the brave Belmont warrior gave his life to destroy one of the Keep's vampire lords.  The Cross is eventually brought back to the Order......where it would await the hands of one of Adrian's young sons in times to come."

Yes, I changed Alucard from being Drac's son to being his brother, but I think it fits just as well.  In fact, it provides a much better motivation for Alucard's cause against his "maker" than him just rebeling against "dear old dad's dark nature".  Whether or not Drac learns that Adrian is his half brother or not is up for grabs.  It could make for plenty of intrigue between the two later on, but it's also not necessary. Doesn't matter.

Of course, maybe this route removes Alucard's powers as a dhampir (which isn't a big deal IMO)...or perhaps his blood relation to Drac causes him to take to the vampirism in a different way.  Either way is perfectly plausible.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Nice theory but If Alucard is not Dracula's son then in my book he just isn't Alucard at all.

[Renonsgoods]

Well at this point alot of people don't consider LoS to be a real Castlevania, so what harm could a little more creative re-imagining do at this point?  Besides, there isn't much room for Gabe to actually have a son of his own anymore.  It's highly unlikely that he will put himself in a position to be able to meet another woman to have an affair with now that he has become "a monster".

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Well at this point alot of people don't consider LoS to be a real Castlevania, so what harm could a little more creative re-imagining do?  Besides, there isn't much room for Gabe to actually have a son of his own anymore.  It's highly unlikely that he will put himself in a position to be able to meet another woman to have an affair with now that he has become "a monster".

We'll there is a HUGE gap between the current storyline and epilogue that shows him as a vampire in the current time so who is to say that he did not meet someone who he feel in love with and had a baby?

Fact is there is plenty of time and space for Gab to get busy so to speak lol.

[Renonsgoods]

Agreed.  As I prefaced, this was just one of my ideas for jump starting the Drac vs Belmont legacy.  I just reconfigured it a bit to include Alucard as well.