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Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« on: June 07, 2009, 11:28:43 PM »
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In Lament of Innocence, he retconned the Vampire Killer so that it was always powered by ghost of Lei Fang, in place of the old assumption that it existed as an object of pure magic incarnate.

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 11:55:15 PM »
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And there's a need to hear from/about such things again... why, exactly?

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In Lament of Innocence, he retconned the Vampire Killer so that it was always powered by ghost of Lei Fang, in place of the old assumption that it existed as an object of pure magic incarnate
Actually originally, via CVIII, it was bestowed to the belmonts by the POLTERGIEST KING~
And it was never powered by 'lei fang', it was given form through Alchemy and achieved its power the moment it struck Sarah. If anything, it's powered by her~~

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Aria of Sorrow; Dracula War.  'nuff said.
It's coming. Hold your damn horses~

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In Portrait of Ruin, he added the stipulation that non-Belmonts who try to weild the VK have their lifeforce slowly drained as a safeguard.  The next major title he produced immediately sidestepped this guideline by simply introducing a character who got her broken Dracula-destroying powers from somewhere completely different.
What's your point? Hector and Alucard have both killed Dracula. You don't need Vampire Killer, just something similar or relevant to Dracula's power~

The belmont villagers are, with the exception of OoE's immediate story, irrelevant. They are not notable people.
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2009, 12:20:57 AM »
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Thus far VK/Dark power similar (in nature and in strength) too Dracula's own is it, really; your overt exaggeration of this minor extension is neither necessary nor warranted. To be perfectly honest, It just comes off childish whining.
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2009, 12:25:18 AM »
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don't forget the Hunter's whip although that was CotM and not IGA.

Cept that CotM was actually a good game.
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2009, 12:28:26 AM »
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CoTM was horrible and isn't even canon anyway. I'm not actually sure why you bothered to bring it up in the first place. S:
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2009, 12:45:40 AM »
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I liked all these things.

The whip being created through alchemy is a great idea. it's better than it just being magically created for no reason.

And I don't even know what "Lei Fang" is a reference to, so if you want to bitch about something, make sure it makes sense.

I can't understand people who absolutely hate all things IGA created. If you don't like any of his games, over the past 12 years, I think you should find yourself a new series of games to play
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2009, 12:46:52 AM »
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Sara was never mentioned? How about the Poltergeist King or the ghost lady who warns Simon?


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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2009, 12:57:14 AM »
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In Lament of Innocence, he retconned the Vampire Killer so that it was always powered by ghost of Lei Fang, in place of the old assumption that it existed as an object of pure magic incarnate.

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2009, 01:02:25 AM »
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Konami should get ILM to place her as a Force Ghost into all the games. Otherwise this plot device shall remain unvalidated!


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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2009, 01:07:31 AM »
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And I don't even know what "Lei Fang" is a reference to, so if you want to bitch about something, make sure it makes sense.


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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2009, 02:15:11 AM »
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CoTM was horrible and isn't even canon anyway. I'm not actually sure why you bothered to bring it up in the first place. S:

Actually according to the official time line that was released after that retcon with the Portrait of Ruin package Circle of the Moon was mentioned, meaning it could have possibly been re-instated a long with the 64 titles. Legends was the only one not mentioned. Even if it was a side story it was still mentioned in the official time line meaning it is just as important as the rest of the games in the official time line.
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2009, 02:21:03 AM »
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Grant and Sypha also killed Dracula.  :D  I saw it with my own eyes!

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2009, 02:59:45 AM »
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 That was published by Konami USA if I recall correctly, not IGA, and contradicted IGA's already established timeline. Konami USA has had bad luck with the timeline in the past and I'd have to say I'm more inclined to follow Iga's.

 Regardless of whether or not it was mentioned, COTM doesn't fit anywhere in the timeline anyway. The 1800's are already filled up with OoE and Dracula, and the kind of backstory necessary to validate COTM requires a much more open time period.

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he must have like it a lot too because he basically stole it's story and used it for HoD.
oh gee there are these two friends and they trained together
one of them is stronger and one of them is a little bit envious and this causes some problems. (I might add the roles aren't the same, either).

There's a similar backstory and someone actively trying to resurrect dracula. That's about it~

Not to mention Maxim and the scenario surrounding HoD were infinitely more interesting~
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2009, 03:07:03 AM »
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That was published by Konami USA if I recall correctly, not IGA, and contradicted IGA's already established timeline. Konami USA has had bad luck with the timeline in the past and I'd have to say I'm more inclined to follow Iga's.

 Regardless of whether or not it was mentioned, COTM doesn't fit anywhere in the timeline anyway. The 1800's are already filled up with OoE and Dracula, and the kind of backstory necessary to validate COTM requires a much more open time period.


It was published by Konami Digital Entertaiment and also comes with an artbook with a speech from IGA, Yamane as well as Ayami thanking the fans. IGA was also credited in the making of Portrait of Ruin and wanted to give the fans something special for the 20th anniversary of Castlevania.

 And since it was mentioned (because Im currently looking at it right now) its presence contradicts OoE.

Also it is the most updated timeline to go off of currently.

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2009, 03:18:16 AM »
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So in conclusion until IGA releases a new time line that includes OoE that story (OoE) will continue to contradict the time line since CoM was mentioned in the time slot first.
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