Topic: Thunderbrand's Spoiler thread---

[Thunderbrand]

I'll offer some more tidbits here...

The guide is huge, over 250 pages long, but it's still sort of barebones. For example, it tells you where you will come across the Scrolls (many dead knights have them), and apparently a lot of the backstory is told that way. The guide also does not mention what is said dialogue-wise, or what happens in each cutscene. So even though there are lots of spoilers I'm able to provide from the guide, we will still be in for lots of surprises and plot twists I'm sure.

Also there are lots of puzzles & brainteasers. Many areas are un-passable until a big puzzle is solved. You will also have to rappel, swing, climb countless times to get into or over certain areas. Plenty of platforming for sure.

The giant spiders are important. The first one appears as a sort of mid-boss, but later they start to appear more often. There are also a few times you have to use them to gain access to other areas. You can jump on their backs and force them to knock down doors, and in one instance shoot a long web, Spiderman-style, across a chasm which you must then cross, walking on the web.

[CastleDan]

Can you list the abilities you can get in the game?

[Thunderbrand]

Can you list the abilities you can get in the game?

Most abilities are learned once you find a certain object or drop item. The main ones according to the guide:

- The Light Gem Medallion allows you to transform Neutral Elemental Orbs into power for Light Magic. You insert magic gems into the slots on the medallion and when all 5 slots are filled (with blue gems) the Light Magic's container capacity is increased.
- The Shadow Gem Medallion does the same thing, only for Shadow Magic. (Red gems.)
- The Life Gem Medallion increases your stamina & life bar when gems are inserted into it's slots. (Green gems.)
- The Dark Gauntlet is found after deteating the Black Knight Golem. It gives you new abilities & attacks.
- Cyclone Boots are found after defeating Cornell. They allow you to run faster and charge enemies harder.
- Seraph Shoulders are found after defeating Carmilla. They allow you to double-jump.

There are also lots of attack & defense combos and abilities you can learn by combining each upgrade with Light or Shadow magic.

[thernz]

I wonder how the double jump will be integrated in later stages.

[Thunderbrand]

My guess, Lord of the dead usurp's Satan's throne after Gabriel beats him and becomes the new lord of evil.

Sounding a little Lament of Innocence there.

Could be. I re-read the guide trying to figure out who the 3rd Lord of Shadows may be. Each Lord drops a piece of the God Mask, so you must get the 3rd and final piece at the end of the game. So that would likely mean the 3rd Lord is either one of the Necromancers, or Satan. But the guide dosen't say! Truthfully, the guide is strange. The walkthrough is pretty thorough, but it's fairly vague about the story/plot/characters. No cutscenes or dialogue are described, nor is the ending, so there are still lots of questions & speculation.

As for the Lord of the Dead, you don't fight him (maybe we will in the DLC?) but he's behind the scenes so to speak. In the most recent trailer, we see him walking up to that statue of the cross, then float up to that throne area---maybe that scene is part of the ending cinematic and the Lord of the Dead becomes Death or Dracula?

From the guide, the Lord of the Dead's description: Lord of all the Dead, he is death personified and with his knowledge of the dark arts none may stand against him, living or dead. (Note: He appears in the characters section, not the Bestiary, so you may interact with him in the game but you do not fight him...same with Laura)

[LoveToResearch]

Hey Thunderbird? I wanted to thank you for taking your time to post them up (I mean spoilerific information). Although, I am curious about one thing: Extra(s). What will be available once you beat the game? I know you mentioned Solid Snake costume... But are there any more extras other than that one? Thanx.

[thernz]

I thought the TGS trailer confirmed it was the Necromancer as well as a scan somewhere. Odd that the guide would still omit it.

[Thunderbrand]

Hey Thunderbird? I wanted to thank you for taking your time to post them up (I mean spoilerific information). Although, I am curious about one thing: Extra(s). What will be available once you beat the game? I know you mentioned Solid Snake costume... But are there any more extras other than that one? Thanx.

Lol...my screenname (Thunderbrand) is a sword in SotN. Although it does look like Thunderbird now that you mention it  

As for extras, some of the artwork is unlocked as you go through the game and appears in the Extras menu. There is also a specific way to get 100% and 110% completion in the game...basically your percentage is based on what difficulty level you play at and how many hidden items and upgrades you find. You must find all of them to get the maximum percentage.

That's really it. They must be putting out quite a bit worth of downloadable content when that's available. Also there's a "prize" after the end credits when you beat the game. No clue what that might be.

[CastleDan]

So does satan have only one form?

Is he the guy thats flying around naked in the tgs tralier?

[Thunderbrand]

So does satan have only one form?

Is he the guy thats flying around naked in the tgs tralier?

Yes, only one form, and his battle has 2 stages. He appears basically human with long dark hair, yellow eyes and some cracks/scars on his face which sort of resemble the Devil Mask. He's shirtless and has this sort of half-robe thing that turns into a swirling/wispy/ethereal set of black angels wings. He wields a magic staff that changes color indicating whether he's using Light or Shadow magic, and he will use both just like Gabe. His attacks will inflict much less damage if both characters are using the same type of magic and vice versa, so strategy will play a part. Also, the guide shows the Lord of the Dead wearing the Devil Mask in it's completed, true form. The Devil Mask as we've seen it so far is cracked & jagged, but there's a pattern underneath it that's definately the same as the one the Lord of the Dead wears. So somewhere along the line the mask was taken from the Lord of the Dead and damaged.

The very end of the guide has a strange screenshot of an older-looking Satan walking down a rainy, crowded street in modern times! There's neon signs, cars & traffic lights in the background. That must be part of the "prize" after the end credits or some kind of joke, I dunno.

[corneliab]

Wow, that TGS trailer actually showed the final boss?

That's so stupid!

[Oralox]

The very end of the guide has a strange screenshot of an older-looking Satan walking down a rainy, crowded street in modern times! There's neon signs, cars & traffic lights in the background. That must be part of the "prize" after the end credits or some kind of joke, I dunno.

What the hell is going on??!!!

[Apolake]

I guess he won the "prize", why does it remind me of Highlander for some reason?

[Kingshango]

What the hell is going on??!!!

I smell a sequel in the works!

Castlevania 2: Modern Despair.

[DragonSlayr81]

LOL, looks like Cox pulled an IGA. Remember who IGA would show too much in his trailers for LoI and CoD? It's kinda sad.

Though, I do get major deja vu with the story of this game. Maybe because it was like one I wrote while in high school. The only difference was that it took place in a fantasy world. My friends and I wrote this story for a fake RPG, and were really inspired by the Final Fantasy series. In the story, events occur where the gate to Heaven is sealed, and people who die cannot pass over. The planet has two moons, Urea, the Heavenly Moon, and Deos, the Devil's Moon. The two moons would act, to the dead, as the gates to Heaven and Hell, but an ancient relic has closed the spiritual side of the gates, but opens the physical side. This is so because God(just called the Creator in my story) banished the demon lord Zeion from the spiritual plane so he cannot cross over(because he's immortal). Zeion and a handful of his demon followers were exiled on Deos(not allowed to even enter Hell itself). The hero, a black knight, typically suffers a bout of amnesia after falling from a cliff after he turned traitor against his evil leader, and the twist(even though it's been played out, particularly in FFX, which I thought was also deja vi-ish) is that once you resolve everything and re-open the gates to heaven and hell to the spirits, it becomes clear that he died from the fall off the cliff in the beginning, and departs to heaven, finally being able to rest in peace. That must've been in 1998 or 99.