Topic: Thunderbrand's Spoiler thread---

[Heuss]

I like Dracula confronted Satan. The Belmonts only work difficult to Dracula in your mission against Satan.  

Bored being Had more of the Same, Dracula falling apart Defeated...    

[Thunderbrand]

Well if that's really how the game ends then I admit I didn't see that coming. Not sure if I like it or not. It's an interesting story but basically Gabe becomes Matthias and later becomes Dracula. Plus with the references to Rinaldo, it basically turns LoS into a prequel to LoI.

[ZenTzen]

Well after that twist ending i still think this is a reboot, new timeline and all that, now i just wanna know how they'll explain how that happened, because i'm not seeing how Gabe becomes Mathias, seeing as LoS happens in 1022 and LoI in 1094, maybe in the planned DLC they'll introduce other Belmonts or in the next game if its successful enough

[Thunderbrand]

This proves in a lot of ways that you cannot NOT have LoS tie in to the other storyline somehow. Call it a reboot all you want but if that's how LoS ends then it's a direct tie in to LoI, and thus part of the main canon.

[Foffy]

Well after that twist ending i still think this is a reboot, new timeline and all that, now i just wanna know how they'll explain how that happened, because i'm not seeing how Gabe becomes Mathias, seeing as LoS happens in 1022 and LoI in 1094, maybe in the planned DLC they'll introduce other Belmonts or in the next game if its successful enough

The year is actually 1047, the website had an error of the date.

The thing is while they may call it a reboot, it may just be one of those games made in a way that you don't need previous history on the franchise to get it. Resident Evil 4 was sorta like that, in a sense, and it took Resident Evil 5 to really nudge it into the whole arc outside of Random Game: Featuring Resident Evil Characters.

The only thing that really sets it apart from being a game before LoI is the final bit of the ending, which jumps hundreds of years into the future. But Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep also did that with its final ending, and the game is obviously set before everything else in that series prior to that bit.

[DragonSlayr81]

I still don't think it's a direct tie in. Rinaldo exists in LoS's universe, as he does in LoI/IGA's universe. No one said they had to be the same guy, but dimensional counterparts. Other than a few references to other CV games, I didn't see anything LITERALLY referencing the events of IGA's canon. And some claim the end takes place in 1999. After watching the stream, I don't recall the date even popping up on screen. It just took place in "modern era". There was no references to the Demon Castle Wars, or references to any other of the Dracula/Belmont struggles from LoI-PoR. For all we know, in LoS, Gabriel "disappears" from history, and hides away from centuries until Zobek tracks him down in the modern age.

I really DO think people are reading too much into this.

As for Gabriel being Dracula, I think it has as much standing as the whole Mathias is Dracula thing. I wonder who the "Vladd III" people are going to react to it, because seemingly, since CVI, they've been clamoring that CV's Dracula is the historical "Vlad Tepes", and this one shuns that theory as well. Actually, as I stated in the other thread, I actually like Mathias as Dracula more, because he didn't get strung along like Gabriel did. Mathias had a clear objective, and used people to achieve it. His means of becoming Dracula was very sisister and evil, the puppet master who used Walter, Leon and Sara to achieve his goal. Gabriel was being strung along by Zobek, who was being strung along by Satan. Way to be the puppet, Gabriel!

[Nagumo]

Wait a minute, Gabriel says he name is Dracul not Dracula. Does that change anything?   

[Foffy]

Wait a minute, Gabriel says he name is Dracul not Dracula. Does that change anything?   

Doesn't he say it in Latin or something? I think it still means Dracula.

[ZenTzen]

Doesn't he say it in Latin or something? I think it still means Dracula.

well dracul by itself means dragon, while dracula means son of dracul or son of the devil in romanian

[Harrycombs]

Historically, Dracul was the father of Dracula.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracul

[DragonSlayr81]

LOL, wouldn't that be funny if Mathais was Gabriel's son? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[ChibiMaddiChan]

I just hope Satan isn't going to be the main staple bad guy now. I love this as an origin story for how we get Dracula, but I don't want role reversals. I want Belmonts kicking Dracula's undead ass. 

[Dremn]

I like someone's comment on this game earlier, how this feels more like an Elseworld's tale like DC Comics does for it's franchises. It's the same thing for Castlevania. Twisted and yet familiar, Belmont(even though he's not really a Belmont making it even more twisted, a Cronqvist trying to be a Belmont) and Dracula in one entity. It's like 90's Comic Book writing all over again. Very surreal shit.

I would have been more appreciative of this game's ending if the entire game actually felt/seemed like a Castlevania game. It had no identity whatsoever, it was really all over the place.

[Foffy]

I like someone's comment on this game earlier, how this feels more like an Elseworld's tale like DC Comics does for it's franchises. It's the same thing for Castlevania. Twisted and yet familiar, Belmont(even though he's not really a Belmont making it even more twisted, a Cronqvist trying to be a Belmont) and Dracula in one entity. It's like 90's Comic Book writing all over again. Very surreal shit.

I would have been more appreciative of this game's ending if the entire game actually felt/seemed like a Castlevania game. It had no identity whatsoever, it was really all over the place.

Two people who wrote the story are comic book writers.

[Dremn]

Well then, that explains everything LOL